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1547031 tn?1296831436

Dealing with Unsupportive People...

Ok, friends.  How do you deal with unsupporting people?  Forgive the vent, but as you know here I am in the armpit of America all alone with no therapist...  So....  My hubby is the unsupportive person I speak of.  Last night, after days of feeling it coming on, I had a massive panic attack.  You know the kind.  Heart beating madly, chest constricted, strangled feeling in the throat, trembling, shaking, sweating, nausea, dizziness, can't sit still, etc.etc.etc.  Well, at the time, my hubby had been on the phone with one of his buddies.  That had been talking for about an hour by then and the conversation was winding down (I could hear it from my daughters bedroom where I was laying down with her).  Wham, panic hits!  So, I lay there next to her for a while, trying to accept it and all the usual tricks we pull out during our time of crisis.  Finally, I have to get up.  I can't lay there one more minute.  So, I know this is stemming from my anxiety over school and over me having to go back to Texas and my husband staying here.  So, I walk over to where my husband is on the phone and ask him to come talk to me when he is off the phone.  Then I put his hand on my heart so he can feel how fast it is beating.  He says "Dang, Jen!" "You're heart is beating so fast, whats wrong?"  I manage to choke out that one little word:  "anxiety".  At which point, he rolls his eyes, says not a word, and goes back to his conversation.  I then go upstairs to my bedroom, my safe place.  I lay down in bed and focus on being in the minute.  Then I get up after about 15 minutes, yep he's still on the phone.  So then I decide to try to distract myself on the computer.  Not working.  Go back and peer over the stairs and my hubby is just sitting there watching TV.  UM, what?!  Did you hear me ask you to come talk?  Insert long, loud sigh from my husband.  I'll be there after my show is over.  Sheesh, I just wanted to talk to him about how much having to leave him is upsetting me!  But, first we must watch the History Channel.  Son of a gun!  When he finally comes upstairs, my anxiety is receeding but is still there.  My heart pounds as I wait while he brushes his teeth, etc and then gets into bed.  Only to promptly roll over and give me his back.  Um, can we talk?  I ask.  Sigh.  What, Jen?  What is wrong with you this time?  Ouch.  Now, I try really hard to never ever discuss my anxiety with my hubby because this is the typical response.  So, don't think every day I'm bombarding him with my anxiety.  The last time I actually asked him to talk to me was 3 months ago and then I just shut up in the middle because he got on FaceBook in the middle of my pouring out my heart.  Anyways, I swallowed my pride and told him one sentence.  "I am having anxiety because I'm nervous and worried about us being apart".  Insert another sigh.  His reply:  "Well, stop it".  Seriously?  This is what I get?  What happened to comforting your spouse?  I would never brush aside his concerns, I would never watch TV first if he told me he needed to talk.  Maybe it's good we are separating.  I was supposed to go back to Texas to finish school and he was going to stay here and work because there are no jobs back home.  At least not ones that pay as well as he is making here and it was his idea that I leave and go finish school, taking the kids with me.  (It would take me an additional 3 years if we were to stay here and I try to continue my schooling here).  So, what should I do?  What can I do?  How do you handle this?  Because he is my husband and I should not feel so alone and so like a burden to him.
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345079 tn?1299202476
I am so sorry you are having to deal with the extra stress. My oldest daughters dad was very unsupportive. He would almost get mad if I had an attack and go on about how it was all in my head and to snap out of it. It got to the point that I would completely hide from him if having an attack just so I wouldnt be made fun of.
The discussion you needed to have with him was a very important one and the fact he couldnt take the time to discuss it with you basically *****. As far as the Texas thing you need to do what is right for you and your kids. I would ask him to go to counseling with you to work on things that need to be worked on together and if he refuses then you can make your decision from there. Its a huge decision and its no wonder you are experiencing anxiety. Remember we are here for you and support you every step.
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My boyfriend does the exact same thing.I am not sure what to do though because my panic disorder seems to be getting worse and I am slowly losing him as one of my "safe" people. I wish people didnt think of mental illnesses as being so taboo and that I am crazy
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I'm not quite sure how to start this so I'm just going to ramble and I hope someone can make sense of it. I think I've always had anxiety right down to being 5 years old and being in the hospital constantly for ultrasounds to figure out why my stomach always hurt so much. I was married for 6 years and have three beautiful girls to show for it. In retrospect I can see now that my ex also suffered from anxiety and the only reason we held in so long was because I avoided his triggers and was always walking on eggshells. By the end I was so miserable I didn't care if my last smoke before bed pissed him off and triggered an anxiety attack for him. He had fears I would cheat and didn't want me to have friends, a job, and even went as far as to scold me if other men "checked me out" walking through the mall. Almost two years separated now, I'm in a new relationship, and I'm losing control of myself. I've come to accept that I need help, and get to start a program next week, and speak to a councilor which I'm very grateful for. My current problem is this... I feel like my fiancee honestly does not care. Not about me, not about my problems, our problems, nothing. My panic attacks trigger asthma attacks, I try to eat a little at night but generally just drink coffee all day to ward off the stomach pain without triggering the nausea. I am usually very good at expressing my feelings and can ramble on for hours on how I see or "feel" things differently, and momentarily I feel like I've gotten through to him and he's working with me towards a healthy better future,... until he does something, or in some cases doesn't do something that triggers an attack. I'll be specific... my girls are 3, 5, and 7. He has 2 children, ages 3, and 4, that live with us Friday-Monday. I am a nonstop crying mess almost every weekend because I'm worrying and then after feeling ridiculous for the way I was acting. I've asked so many weekends if he could please have his children have a weekend with their mother (she's been asking for it anyways). Once he sent a three sentenced email asking her two days before that weekend what she thought of the idea of keeping them as if it were an option. Can you imagine how I felt after pouring out my heart for hours over how much I'm hurting and I just need 1 weekend to breathe, just to have him wait until a couple hours before he was picking them up to tell me they were coming and it was completely out of his control. I'm not stupid enough to be suicidal because I know my girls don't have anyone else to care for them or that would ever love them as much as I do, but I feel like an awful mother and they're going to remember having a messed up mom that cried everyday and couldn't even walk them all the way to school without dramatically dropping to my knees to stop the dizziness and pulling up my shirt to cool off as quickly as possible. I don't have any friends and I don't have any family. I tried talking to my finacee's sister about my feelings mid panic attack once, but she told me to just suck it up. I used to feel like I could do anything I wanted to if I tried and now I'm so helpless I can't even force a proper smile without breaking into tears because I know I'm faking it. Help :( I really am all alone.
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I live in Manchester, GB and I was searching the internet because I have generalised anxiety disorder and went through CBT. I'm empowered now but I still need to be mindful and mentally strong when I become irrational. my fiancé is totally unsupportive and is one of these partners that say horrible nasty things when I'm being irrational... despite my positive progression. he ignores me and tells me to F off and refuses to acknowledge my problem.  I've put up with this for two years and initially felt like I deserved it as I also use to self harm.  now I don't do this and my anxiety has massively reduced (once a month "episode") compared to every day!) and I'm so pleased with my progression (CBT is soooo beneficial!) yet he still continues to be nasty. he definitely has am anger problem but won't go to therapy.  I'm suppose to be marrying him in 6 weeks and am currently considering postponing the wedding until he sorts it out... to be honest though, deep down i don't think he will.

my advice is as soon as you are aware someone is treating you disrespectfully.... get out. someone on here gave some good advice about being able to not understand and being frustrated but this doesn't mean that this gives you permission to treat someone like crap. some people need to build compassion and empathy and this can't be taught over a nigh... or in 6 weeks.

I just wish I realised before this mess.

I find running helps and meditation... also this book; The compassionate mind by Paul Glbert .... amaaaaaazing book. I've read it three times. it's not so great if your a Christian as it does focus on the evolutionary aspect of anxiety and mental health.

lots of love frenchi xxxxx
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480448 tn?1426948538
This is so common and I think most of us with panic attacks have felt unsupported from our loved ones at some point...to varying degrees.  Now, obviously some of the situations explained in this thread border on heartless and mean, which certainly isn't right...but we also need to remember like others have said that if you have NOT gone through this, it simply does not make sense to others.  It probably IS annoying...especially when there are no obvious triggers and they perceive our lives to be low stress, cannot identify a trauma we've had, etc.  To them, they DON'T understand WHY we can't just "snap out if it".  We've ALL heard that probably a million times, even from the most caring of loved ones.  And nothing upsets us more to hear something like that b/c we just CAN'T!

So, those comments and the seemingly heartless actions of our loved ones while we're in the throws of panic only serves to make our anxiety that much worse!  My sister, who I love dearly, was one of these "level headed" loved ones that came up with every kind of maddening comment imaginable, my Dad, Mr. Engineer, who knows nothing but common sense, was even worse.  My husband TRIED to be supportive, but after a few times, he grew weary and his irritation was so apparent he might as well had a neon sign that said..."You're nuts and you're annoying the hell out of me".  It's a very isolating feeling.

One way I got my "support system" to understand a little bit better is to make them read a book, that was a Godsend to me.."How to Help your Loved One Overcome Agoraphobia".  Now, even if you don't suffer from that (which most of do to diff degrees)...it still had sooo much helpful info in it about panic attacks, the cycles, explaining WHAT a PA is, etc.  I could have wrote that book!  I got to the point where just the acknowledgement of what I was going thru was such a relief.  My sister finally said to me.."I still don't really understand it all, but I can imagine it is hard for you and wish there was some way I could help you."  That was a wonderful thing to hear.

The bottom line, IMO is that the BEST support we can get is from professionals and from others that live it along with us...cuz THEY get it!  That isn't to say we should "hide" it from our non-anxious loved ones...or not turn to them for support...but I think we have to be patient with them and to an extent, understand where they're coming from.  In MOST of these situatons, it's hard for them to see us like this and probably the most helpless feeling to not be able to make us better.  We need to communicate with them, while being forgiving at times. TELL them what we need.  Example....say to your spouse.."I KNOW you don't understand and it doesn't make sense, but this is a real thing for me and is so scary...even if you can't find something to say to me, holding me helps...or ask me what you can do."  And again, WE need to be patient with them too, much like we expect them to be patient with us.  While what we go through is hell, it can't be easy for them either.

Again, I don't excuse some of the ways your loved ones have handled this, b/c despite not understanding, there is NEVER a reason to be outright mean, and hurtful.  That isn't how you help someone you love.  Sometimes, we need to reevaluate those relationships and if we determine that they're more harmful than helpful, then some serious thought is needed.  Another approach is to ask if your loved one will attend a therapy session with you, and ask the therapist to explain the whole deal to them...and again...allow for some acknowledgement that this is a REAL condition, something a LOT of people suffer with....and give them some ideas on how to help.

Wishing you all the best!
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1348686 tn?1310654243
When I am not getting support from my husband with my anxiety instead of getting even more upset I try and deal with it myself.  I will either listen to some relaxing music while writing in my journal, take a hot bath with lavendar oil, or listen to a chakra healing session.  

My husband really isn't all that bad if I ask him to just hold me until it is over he will.  His cousin is a great support for me because he to suffers from anxiety.  My husband has on occasion talked to him about it and he does try and understand but honestly he can't.  So yes there are times that he isn't supportive but I know if I was in a really bad way he would do what he can for me.

I really hope that by coming up with an action plan things will change between you and your husband.  I also hope that maybe some of my relief techniques might work for you as well.

Also, try yoga.  It has really helped me.

Good luck, I hope you find relief soon!!!
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1547031 tn?1296831436
@ All:
Thank you all so much for responding.  I think this is a good topic and would like to hear more from others.  It seems a pretty common thread that we would all like to be supported by our spouses/partners/etc. and it is so helpful to know how everyone else deals with this.  Jaybay, thank you for bringing what worked for you to the table.  I think my hubby may respond to a plan, like you said.  I will talk with him about it, if he will stop rolling his eyes at me for five seconds!  :)  Erin, I know you said that you call your mom or a friend.  And alsky, you mentioned some good tips on how you've dealt with handling things on your own.  What about everybody else?  How do you handle the insult on top of injury of an unsupportive significant other in the midst of anxiety?  BTW, Erin, my husband too has threatened to leave me over this anxiety.  Because we were married I was able to quickly remind him of the "in sickness or health" part he vowed to me before God and our families.  Long story short, he basically then admitted that he didn't want to leave me, he just feels so helpless.  Unfortunately, now, through the years this helplessness has turned to anger and the cold shoulder.  I personally hate to call my friends during anxiety because I feel my disease is a burden to them.  You know?  Like they don't need to hear from me every other day whilst in the clutches of anxiety.  It can wear a person down, I know, and I don't want to have my friends always thinking I'm in crisis.  My mom is old-school.  She is still waiting for me to "snap out of it" and "get a grip".  She feels there is no ill a good housecleaning can't cure.  Idle hands, yada, yada, yada...
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I am a man and my wife doesnt support my emotional troubles ...she actually contributes to them...
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82861 tn?1333453911
Any chronic illness is hard for other people to understand.  I have a chronic pain condition and my husband sometimes gets annoyed when I sometimes can't follow through on a planned activity.  I think part of the problem is that most men are "fixers" and they get frustrated that they can't fix us.  They have to deal with their own feelings of helplessness.

What has helped for me and my husband is to make a rough plan for the times I have a pain spike.  For example, I need the house to be quiet and to be left alone while I work on relaxation and meditation.  When I turned those needs into an actual job for him, my husband went to work on it.  He's the kind of person that needs to "do" something, so having a specific action plan made sense to him.

You might try raising the subject of your anxiety with your husband when you're in a calm state of mind.  He really doesn't need to understand exactly what general anxiety or a panic attack feels like.  What he does need to understand is what you need from him when it happens.  Spell it out.  I need you to do X.  Men also tend to prefer a direct approach with specific tasks and goals spelled out in black and white.  Come up with a code word like "Code A!" so that he knows you need him and you need him NOW.  The "reward" for his cooperation is that you will calm down sooner rather than later.

On the other hand, some people (male or female) are just emotional neanderthals and nothing you say or do will ever get through to them.  You may be completely on your own, but you should at least try a rational approach before giving up.

I get panic attacks while driving over bridges.  Fun!  I have to remind myself to really pay attention to my breathing so I don't hyperventillate.  That, along with a lot of calming self-talk gets me over to the other side - white-knuckled, but safe.  I kept my fear of bridges a deep dark secret for most of my life.  I HATE showing any sign of weakness and it was so irrational I was actually ashamed of it.  

A few years ago it happened on a huge freeway flyover.  I was driving because my husband was drunk.  He thought it was funny that I was gritting my teeth and driving like a granny over that thing.  Then he thought it was even funnier to mess with me - like pretending to grab the wheel and send us over the guardrail to the road below.  It nearly happened for real because I was about to pass out at the wheel from his antics.  I took the nearest exit, pulled into a parking lot and proceeded to have an emotional meltdown, which is completely out of character for me.  I finally had to tell him what happens to me on bridges and how dangerous his behavior was to the both of us.  I should have done it years ago.  Now he helps to keep me distracted and reminds me to breathe if I start panting or hold my breath.  Of course, since his own skin is on the line, it behooves him to pay attention and be supportive!
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1448936 tn?1363206346
My boyfriend is the same way. When I get panic attacks I call my mom or a friend. I can't talk to him about it. He's threatened to leave me over it so I pretty much hide it from him now. I'm sorry to everyone who has a lack of support from their significant others. Its a terrible feeling.
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unless you experience anxiety/panic  it is very difficult to understand

you need to practice meditation, relaxation, deep breathing.     Try chammomile teas,  

try to get out and go for a walk.

(yes im a guy)
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All:  I am seeing a theme here - it seems at least in this thread, that it is the guys who don't seem as supportive as we'd like.  Now before the men on this board bombard me with accusations of sexism, bear in mind that I know that people are people, and support is not the exclusive province of women -many guys are real knights in shining armor when the chips are down.  While my husband can be, I have experienced the lack of support mentioned in these posts as well.  My husband is from another culture, so he simply 'doesn't get it' about mental health issues, much of the time. I can allow him some leeway because of that, but at the end of the day, if you are hurting and need basic human empathy, you'd hope your spouse or significant other / family member or friend - male or female - would oblige.  Jen, I hope things get better for you soon.  As for going to Texas or not going to Texas, I agree w/ Jul, perhaps someone else, like a psychiatrist or even a social worker / therapist can help you obtain some perspective and guide you as you make what would be a major life decision.  I think one of the most important aspects to making such a decision would be 'full disclosure' between you and your spouse about what such a move would mean for each of you, for your kids, and what benefits it would have for your future.  If this won't come easy in a conversation between you, perhaps that's where the therapist / counselor might become involved.  Good luck, whatever you decide.
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1553083 tn?1296232321
I am very sorry to hear about your lack of support.  I would have to agree that unless someone has experienced a panic attack, it is hard for them to understand.  That being said, empathy is not hard to give to someone going through something you are not.  I don't share alot of my panic/anxiety with my husband, I pretty much kept it to myself.  I know he tries to understand, but I have found that when I try to share a little more with him about it, he kind of zones out. Leaves me feeling hurt and very alone in this fight.  Now that I am working with a councilor, I am slowly letting people around me know about it (like my gym trainer).  I don't go into great detail, just let them know I have panic/anxiety disorder.  Seems like people who are not 'family' are more understanding and empathetic.  You are making a big move and I think even a person who does not have anxiety/panic would feel anxious.  I've been learning about healthy selfiness; taking care of yourself first so that you can be healthy for those around you.  Do what you feel is best for you and definately find someone to work with when you get to Texas.  
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This sounds very familiar, my boyfriend gets very angry if I bring up the topic too. He usually rolls his eyes, gets angry and starts insulting me saying very mean things. He has said things like I am a cry baby and that I am annoying. His responses just fed my anxiety and made it worse. I think my boyfriend has his own psychological problems because of how angry he gets over minor things. Now my anxiety level is low because I practice mindful thinking and meditation.
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1348686 tn?1310654243
Hey Jen...I am so sorry you are going through a such a hard time right now.  My husband is the same way when it comes to my anxiety and that is because they don't get it.  Unless someone has suffered with anxiety they will never really understand.  However that doesn't mean he shouldn't be there to help and support you.

I can't tell you what to do as far as going to Texas to finish school that has to be your decision.  Take a minute to try and look past the anxiety (I know this is hard to do) but try and picture how you would like your life to be once you are finished with school and you are working in your career.  This might help you feel better about the decision. How long will it take you to finish school in Texas?  Will  you have any help with the children while you are there?  These are all things to take into consideration before making such a big move.

I really think seeing a psychatrist would be good for you.  You need to have an outlet where you can vent to someone that understands.  This forum is great for that but sometimes it is nice to have a face to face conversation with someone that can help.  Also try keeping a journal.  Writing especially when you are anxious can be calming.  I have been doing Chakra Healing and it has helped me alot.  You can find the sessions online.  It might seem silly at first but if it helps you relax it is worth it.  Yoga has also been helpful.  If you don't want to go to a class get some dvds and do it at home.  

I really hope you start feeling better soon.  Please message me anytime you need to vent....
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