Mary on Magi's puter
Maybe I feel he's so smart because he came right after one of the dumbest. lol
@ El, LOL. But to be fair she did say "one of the smartest".....
Ha, ha... You just made a funny;-)
O'bamas the smartest president we've ever had. HILARIOUS.
You really should let everyone know that you're being facetious, my friend. Someone might think you're actually being serious!
I LOVE your sense of humor, allaboutmary... VERY funny.
On-topic: once again, were talking about this "free" healthcare thing again. And who's going to pay for it? Oh yeah, that's right... the gov't and the rich. I'm by no means "rich", but the current administration would have you believe that I'm ROLLING in cash. WRONG.
And even if I was, why is anyone besides ME entitled to MY money? I work. I earn. I save. Yet the gov't feels it's entitled to my money... A lot of it. More of it than they currently TAKE, which is a considerable amount.
Again, funny joke allaboutmary!
O'bamas the smartest president ever.
HILARIOUS!!!
I gotta say that I sincerely doubt they will insist on more tests and shots. The problem is usually that you receive lesser care----------- not things that will require more expense on their part to the masses. Maybe more will have these options now but no one will force them.
In fact, most doctors are rated on things like how often they suggest tests. The more they do it, the lower their rating by insurance companies. The government will be the same--------- and worse. They are not going to force themselves to cost more to run.
I dont think we should be forced to have insurance.
One thing that I can forsee happening, is everyone is required to have insurance, and guess what, the insurance companies are now hand in hand with the medical. What this will mean is that they will insist you have all the shots and invasive tests you may not want or feel are not safe. For example.....
Prostate cancer. One out of 1,000 men get it. Out of that number, the one out of a thousand, that one person only has a 2% chance of that cancer becoming dangerous.
The testing however, is dangerous. If everyone is forced in order to keep their insurance, to undergo what they decide is worthy screenings, guess how much money that pans out to for the whole industry. They are all crooks. I want the right to say no thanks to insurance and I want the right to say no thanks to invasive tests.
Why is the PSA test controversial in screening?
Using the PSA test to screen men for prostate cancer is controversial because it is not yet known for certain whether this test actually saves lives. Moreover, it is not clear that the benefits of PSA screening outweigh the risks of follow-up diagnostic tests and cancer treatments. For example, the PSA test may detect small cancers that would never become life threatening. This situation, called overdiagnosis, puts men at risk of complications from unnecessary treatment.
I found this below, but its a medical site in favor of the testing, but even they admit there are some risks (though they mention the more minor ones)
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Detection/PSA
The procedure used to diagnose prostate cancer (prostate biopsy) may cause harmful side effects, including bleeding and infection. Prostate cancer treatments, such as surgery and radiation therapy, may cause incontinence (inability to control urine flow), erectile dysfunction (erections inadequate for intercourse), and other complications. For these reasons, it is important that the benefits and risks of diagnostic procedures and treatment be taken into account when considering whether to undertake prostate cancer screening.
I dont want to be forced to have anything done to my body and I do believe the insurance and drug and medical and gov are all one happy incestuous family looking out for their wallet not my health.
On a happy note, I found some really rich boys and I was thinking since they have way more money than they know what to do with, how about we ask if they would like to sponser those without insurance?
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/06/tobey-maguire-sued-illegal-poker-game-leonardo-dicaprio-ben-affleck-matt-damon
Yeah, I get what your saying but the Dem's should have crammed things through .....like the Republicans do when they have the majority. I just wish the Dem's would play the political game more like the Republicans sometimes. They didn't care what the American people thought....they did it and are still trying to do it. As far as Obama .....he's one of the smartest Presidents we have ever had, but like you said he can only do so much. He has Congress & Senate to deal with. I just can't stand that we don't get anything done because of the constant bickering between the 2 parties. All while the middle class is suffering and the rich get richer (and we pay for it)
@ flmagi..It's kind of hard for them to pass anything when the house is republican..Granted the house was democrat for 2 yrs but the voters were not patient enough. Everyone thinks all these issues can be solved in 1 term. It took our last President 2 terms to screw it up. He inherited a surplus and a balanced budget from the Clinton administration and left the country with an astronomical deficit, and crumbling economy and 2 wars....How can that be cleaned up in 2 yrs??? I agree. I'm an independent but I have voted Democrat just because the Republicans (whether some people like it or not) are not for the middle class or the poor....Example: President Obama HAD NO CHOICE to extend the tax cuts to the rich because the republicans would have vetoed the extension of unemployment due to the fact that they rule the house...What?????? When their President vetoed the democratic house's decision NOT to go to war in Iraq, no one saw that as a bad thing now did they???
Oh rats! Just when I thought we were getting along! ha ha. I see it differently from my end-------- but I do understand where you are coming from. You all did vote in people you thought would get the job done that you wanted. I think that playing nice was all they could do with such opposition. The country is really split which makes drastic change difficult.
Mary on Magi's puter
It really ***** that we can't run the country from Med help.lol I'm so sick of the Dem's & Repub's fighting and nothing gets done. The Dem's wasted the time we gave them. We gave them Congress, Senate and the White House and they blew it by trying to play nice. :) We should have Universal health care right now. Grrrrrrrrr I'll still vote Dem. I have too, I don't agree with Repub's on almost everything.
sorry I may sound jealous but I think I have the right to be...It's just not fair and we have people and politicians who oppose everyone having "free" healthcare...The politicians free healthcare is paid by who? THE MIDDLE CLASS!!!!
I agree with a sliding scale... I would definitely pay for it (as we do now through my husbands job) But we pay $225 a pay period (every 2 weeks) for Just medical then another $50 for dental and vision...I think that is ridiculous..Healthcare should NOT be that expensive ESPECIALLY if you are working...I know TONS of people who are NOT working and get "free" medical and let me tell you their medical is waaayyyy better than what my husbands job offers. I know a girl that just had a baby. She was working and then decided that she was "tired of working" She went to a "shady" Dr and was excused from work due to stress..Now I know there are cases where work can stress you out but in her case (like plenty of other people do) she was just "tired" of working. In any event, she collected TDI (Temporary disability) for 6 months, got pregnant while on TDI, once her TDI ran out she ended up on unemployment. She can now collect and was qualified for state medical, WIC (free formula, milk, eggs, bread and cheese), and Food stamps (because she says she's single....but explain how she got pregnant being single. They didn't probe that though!!!) She had a baby at NO CHARGE whatsoever. No co-payments, no bill after delivery....Now myself and my husband are TTC. He works very HARD and if I were to have a baby, each Dr's visit would be $25 and my out of pocket expense after give birth would be $900.00 (yes that's not bad but compared to people not paying anything and scamming the system, I say it's bad)..Tell me that's not *&^%$# up!!!
Oh that's it----------------- you are right!! I am a hypocrite!!! Ha. Seriously, I'm not a fan of the health care mandate that everyone be required to buy insurance because it basically means there has to be a single payer system in order for that to happen. Not everyone has to own a car or buy a home. But just because you breath------------ you HAVE to have insurance under that order.
No worries, the loophole will be fixed. As long as no major corporate entity is involved, Congress will go out of its way to eliminate much needed help to the lower middle class.
Mary on Magi's computer.
Yes you must have homeowners if you have a mortgage. You must have auto insurance to drive also. So I get what your saying .....they are for profit. (don't get me wrong I hate all insurance companies lol) Then again, why is everyone against the health insurance mandate in the new health care bill ?
I do agree that the ones who really need help with getting medical coverage are the middle class. I think they should bump up the medicaid level to include more and yes, I would like more options for those middle class. (me)
And something else no one is getting! I am willing to pay for insurance and no one will insure me! How about you gals? U want free? Who is talking free other than them gop idgits. So much for the greatest healthcare in the world!
Isn't it a requirement to carry insurance on your home when you apply for a mortgage?
Yep Im middle class too. Isnt that the only group hurting for medical care tho? I mean the poor get it paid, the rich obviously have no problem, so just who else is there? (looking side to side and up and down). hmmmm, got me!
THIS IS ALLABOUTMARY ON FLMAGI'S COMPUTER (just so everyone knows it's me and not Magi posting) Magi is my sister and lives next door.
Like I said in the other post. I think everyone should be able to get on Medicare, for a fee, say a sliding scale.
What kills me is the FOR PROFIT insurance companies. We don't have for profit police, fire departments or public schools. Can you imagine your house on fire but you didn't have the cash or insurance to have it put out. That sounds crazy ..right ? Well so does for profit health care.
So yes i agree everyone should have health care.
BTW didn't EVERYONE read this bill before they signed it? Why NOW is it a problem? Um maybe because the election is around the corner...So sad!!!
Ok someone tell me what's wrong with this? Why is it wrong for the middle class to get medicaid? I consider myself and husband Middle class, as far as we know, we ALWAYS get the $#@% end of the stick....Middle class in my opinion is fading out. There's the RICH and then everyone else. Why in the world would people not want EVERYONE to have health insurance??????? I don't think it's OBAMA trying to shut this down. It sounds to me like it's the republicans AGAIN!!! PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong!!!