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perspective on Baltimore protests
Orioles COO John Angelos offers eye-opening perspective on Baltimore protests
After protests in Baltimore over the death of Freddie Gray turned violent on Saturday, Baltimore sports-radio broadcaster Brett Hollander took to Twitter to argue that demonstrations that negatively impact the daily lives of fellow citizens are counter-productive. Orioles COO John Angelos, son of owner Peter Angelos, seized the opportunity to respond with a qualified and brilliant defense of those protesting.
You can read the whole thing in Angelos’ Twitter replies, but it’s transcribed here for clarity. It’s all here because it’s all so good. Read the whole thing:
Brett, speaking only for myself, I agree with your point that the principle of peaceful, non-violent protest and the observance of the rule of law is of utmost importance in any society. MLK, Gandhi, Mandela and all great opposition leaders throughout history have always preached this precept. Further, it is critical that in any democracy, investigation must be completed and due process must be honored before any government or police members are judged responsible.
That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.
The innocent working families of all backgrounds whose lives and dreams have been cut short by excessive violence, surveillance, and other abuses of the Bill of Rights by government pay the true price, and ultimate price, and one that far exceeds the importances of any kids’ game played tonight, or ever, at Camden Yards. We need to keep in mind people are suffering and dying around the U.S., and while we are thankful no one was injured at Camden Yards, there is a far bigger picture for poor Americans in Baltimore and everywhere who don’t have jobs and are losing economic civil and legal rights, and this makes inconvenience at a ballgame irrelevant in light of the needless suffering government is inflicting upon ordinary Americans.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/orioles-john-angelos-baltimore-protests-mlb
After protests in Baltimore over the death of Freddie Gray turned violent on Saturday, Baltimore sports-radio broadcaster Brett Hollander took to Twitter to argue that demonstrations that negatively impact the daily lives of fellow citizens are counter-productive. Orioles COO John Angelos, son of owner Peter Angelos, seized the opportunity to respond with a qualified and brilliant defense of those protesting.
You can read the whole thing in Angelos’ Twitter replies, but it’s transcribed here for clarity. It’s all here because it’s all so good. Read the whole thing:
Brett, speaking only for myself, I agree with your point that the principle of peaceful, non-violent protest and the observance of the rule of law is of utmost importance in any society. MLK, Gandhi, Mandela and all great opposition leaders throughout history have always preached this precept. Further, it is critical that in any democracy, investigation must be completed and due process must be honored before any government or police members are judged responsible.
That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.
The innocent working families of all backgrounds whose lives and dreams have been cut short by excessive violence, surveillance, and other abuses of the Bill of Rights by government pay the true price, and ultimate price, and one that far exceeds the importances of any kids’ game played tonight, or ever, at Camden Yards. We need to keep in mind people are suffering and dying around the U.S., and while we are thankful no one was injured at Camden Yards, there is a far bigger picture for poor Americans in Baltimore and everywhere who don’t have jobs and are losing economic civil and legal rights, and this makes inconvenience at a ballgame irrelevant in light of the needless suffering government is inflicting upon ordinary Americans.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/orioles-john-angelos-baltimore-protests-mlb
There are large portions of the middle class that managed to hang on, however. Not all big cities have seen the collapse that Detroit or Baltimore have. What is the reasoning behind that?
I particularly liked this paragraph:
That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.
El~ When there was more regulation and taxation over corporations there was a thriving middle class. Lowering corporate tax rates does nothing other than give more money to those elite on the very top.
That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.
El~ When there was more regulation and taxation over corporations there was a thriving middle class. Lowering corporate tax rates does nothing other than give more money to those elite on the very top.
What is the national juvenile recidivism rate?
According to Juvenile Offenders and Victims: 2014 National Report, a report funded by the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJJDP): "There is no national recidivism rate for juveniles. Each state’s juvenile justice system differs in organization, administration, and data capacity. These differences influence how states define, measure, and report recidivism rates. This also makes it challenging to compare recidivism rates across states."
https://www.ncjrs.gov/app/QA/Detail.aspx?Id=113&context=9
Recidivism is one of the most fundamental concepts in criminal justice. It refers to a person's relapse into criminal behavior, often after the person receives sanctions or undergoes intervention for a previous crime. Recidivism is measured by criminal acts that resulted in rearrest, reconviction or return to prison with or without a new sentence during a three-year period following the prisoner's release.
National Statistics on Recidivism
Bureau of Justice Statistics studies have found high rates of recidivism among released prisoners. One study tracked 404,638 prisoners in 30 states after their release from prison in 2005.[1] The researchers found that:
Within three years of release, about two-thirds (67.8 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Within five years of release, about three-quarters (76.6 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year.
Property offenders were the most likely to be rearrested, with 82.1 percent of released property offenders arrested for a new crime compared with 76.9 percent of drug offenders, 73.6 percent of public order offenders and 71.3 percent of violent offenders.
http://www.nij.gov/topics/corrections/recidivism/Pages/welcome.aspx
According to Juvenile Offenders and Victims: 2014 National Report, a report funded by the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJJDP): "There is no national recidivism rate for juveniles. Each state’s juvenile justice system differs in organization, administration, and data capacity. These differences influence how states define, measure, and report recidivism rates. This also makes it challenging to compare recidivism rates across states."
https://www.ncjrs.gov/app/QA/Detail.aspx?Id=113&context=9
Recidivism is one of the most fundamental concepts in criminal justice. It refers to a person's relapse into criminal behavior, often after the person receives sanctions or undergoes intervention for a previous crime. Recidivism is measured by criminal acts that resulted in rearrest, reconviction or return to prison with or without a new sentence during a three-year period following the prisoner's release.
National Statistics on Recidivism
Bureau of Justice Statistics studies have found high rates of recidivism among released prisoners. One study tracked 404,638 prisoners in 30 states after their release from prison in 2005.[1] The researchers found that:
Within three years of release, about two-thirds (67.8 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Within five years of release, about three-quarters (76.6 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year.
Property offenders were the most likely to be rearrested, with 82.1 percent of released property offenders arrested for a new crime compared with 76.9 percent of drug offenders, 73.6 percent of public order offenders and 71.3 percent of violent offenders.
http://www.nij.gov/topics/corrections/recidivism/Pages/welcome.aspx
How much does/did recidivism come into play with not only black youth but all youth that enter the system?
"If you read the list of daily arrests, you'll find that on most days, there are just as many or more non-blacks arrested than there are black. This is not because there are no black people where I live, either. ..."
Well the national incarceration statistics would disagree.
RACIAL DISPARITIES
More than 60% of the people in prison
today are people of color. Black men are six
times more likely to be incarcerated than
white men and Hispanic men are 2.4 times
more likely. For black men in their thirties, 1
in every 10 is in prison or jail on any given
day.
YOUTH
Over the past 15 years, commitment to
secure juvenile facilities for youth who
have been adjudicated delinquent has
been steadily declining from a high point
of 77,800 in 1999 to 41,900 in 2011. Still,
troubling problems remain. Youth of color
enter the system much more frequently
than white youth and are more likely to be
sentenced to harsher terms of punishment.
In addition, thousands of young people are
transferred to the adult system each year,
and many are sent to adult prisons and
jails to serve their sentences.
http://sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/inc_Trends_in_Corrections_Fact_sheet.pdf
Well the national incarceration statistics would disagree.
RACIAL DISPARITIES
More than 60% of the people in prison
today are people of color. Black men are six
times more likely to be incarcerated than
white men and Hispanic men are 2.4 times
more likely. For black men in their thirties, 1
in every 10 is in prison or jail on any given
day.
YOUTH
Over the past 15 years, commitment to
secure juvenile facilities for youth who
have been adjudicated delinquent has
been steadily declining from a high point
of 77,800 in 1999 to 41,900 in 2011. Still,
troubling problems remain. Youth of color
enter the system much more frequently
than white youth and are more likely to be
sentenced to harsher terms of punishment.
In addition, thousands of young people are
transferred to the adult system each year,
and many are sent to adult prisons and
jails to serve their sentences.
http://sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/inc_Trends_in_Corrections_Fact_sheet.pdf
Tee hee hee
I don't think I'm the one who is biased here... I "am" paying attention - that's how I know it "isn't" just blacks... My area has far more non-black families with children in our public schools that are homeless/hungry, just as many non-black single parent families, etc. If you read the list of daily arrests, you'll find that on most days, there are just as many or more non-blacks arrested than there are black. This is not because there are no black people where I live, either.
It's time to pull back the race card and realize that the problems we have are within our entire society and they encompass all races and it will take all races to resolve them. Inability to live peacefully within our neighborhoods affects every single one of us. Should I be persecuted simply because my skin isn't black and I don't think that giving people a handout is helping them, no matter what color they are?
Every time the government abuses the Bill of Rights or takes away any legal right of any citizen it affects "every" American.
It's time to pull back the race card and realize that the problems we have are within our entire society and they encompass all races and it will take all races to resolve them. Inability to live peacefully within our neighborhoods affects every single one of us. Should I be persecuted simply because my skin isn't black and I don't think that giving people a handout is helping them, no matter what color they are?
Every time the government abuses the Bill of Rights or takes away any legal right of any citizen it affects "every" American.
Lower the corporate tax-rate, and maybe some of the jobs that've been shipped overseas, will come back...
Paying attention Mike, or just biased?
Paying attention Mike, or just biased?
Yeah, but it's mostly the blacks. You'd know that if you were paying attention.....or if you weren't biased. Sorry - not hating - just saying.
For once, somebody is acknowledging that the government is abusing the Bill of Rights and this affects people of all backgrounds, not just blacks and that ordinary Americans are losing legal and civil rights at the hands of our own government.
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