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I think I have posted this once before but Islam is not the religion of peace. Majority might be peaceful but no other religion is going around killing people.
This is twice now that the religion of peace has attacked a military institution on US soil. But thanks to Billy Clinton they are gun free zones.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/17/reports-chattanooga-gunman-was-kuwaiti-born-but-spent-formative-years-in-us/

I wonder what flag we are going to take down now since flags give motivation to kill others.
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Our government knows that individuals from these groups are in this country.  They are 'monitoring' the situation.  At one time before 911, they were also monitoring almost everyone of the "bad guys" involved with that fateful day but somehow lost contact with them (or at least some of them).  That doesn't give me a bunch of confidence that things are being taken care of.
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I just don't know if you can round up people because of their religion and kick them out.  Didn't the Nazi's try to do that?  (well, they went a little further than kicking them out . . .  but you know what I mean).

The religion isn't inherently bad, there are groups within that religion that are bad.  Identifying those groups seems more prudent to me than just the entire lot of those that practice the Muslim faith which is a whole heck of a lot of people.  
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Good god... You guys really DO see what you want to see (as we all do, really).

I'll see things my way, and you see things yours.

You let the Muslims in this country proliferate, and I'll speak out against them proliferating, because it erodes away the very foundation on which this country was built.

I too know ONE Muslim, that happens to be a pretty decent fellow. Just because there are several nice ones, doesn't mean they're ALL nice. They aren't, and if the majority of terrorists come from that group, GET THEM OUT.

Just like not all white people are racists, the majority of racists ARE indeed white people. So what do black people do? They label ALL white people as racists.

Is it any different than that? I see you rallying to the side of black people, agreeing with them.

Double-standard much?
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Amen!
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163305 tn?1333668571
A simple google search listed the most prominent groups of domestic terrorism beginning with anti abortionists.
The list of the top 8 most wanted domestic terrorists had only one Muslim on it. So your ridiculous statement that all terrorists are Muslim is easily disproven and shown as blatantly inaccurate.   I suggest doing a little fact checking. Ditto to you Vance.
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Well, I guess I have no real 'evidence', that is true.  Just what is evidenced in my life.  But what happens in my life leaves me with my impressions of people. And it is not me trying to be 'politically correct' to say I find Muslim people to be much different than the stereotypical terrorist haters you read about.  
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My good friend is Egyptian and I'd trust him with my life. And he's Muslim. How's that for anecdotal evidence?
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I'm not being PC el.  I live around, am friends with several Muslims.  Moms, kids, fathers.  They are not hateful people.  Not all terrorists are Muslim either.  Maybe if I didn't have the personal experience that I do . . . I'd see Muslims as you do.  But I just can't with the people I know.  

It's not PC.  I just don't think it is an accurate portrayal of all those who practice the religion to say they are all like the extremists.  
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Thanks for the clarity.
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1310633 tn?1430224091
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.

I'm sorry... but all this PC b/s has got to stop. People affraid to speak up/out about Islam and Muslims, for fear of being labeled a racist, or un-PC, or a biggot. Screw that.

Islam IS NOT a religion of peace.
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163305 tn?1333668571
A Muslim extremist kills people in Tennessee. A racist young white southern man kills black church goers in South Carolina.    Radically extreme intolerance is what these murderers have in common.
I do not believe there are more Muslims killing people in the U.S. Though I'm sure some people would want us to believe that.
be careful where you get your information from.
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I think you made yourself quite clear and I happen to agree with you - and I know that's probably a bad thing.

Anyway, I distrust and dislike fundamentalists of every religion. I think they are invariably rigid, misogynistic and insufferably arrogant. In some cases they can also be brutally violent and at this time in history Islam seems to have more than their fair share of these types.
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973741 tn?1342342773
And I realize my writing skills were not something to be proud of in the above comment.  Little tired and hope you could understand what I meant.  
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Where I live, there are a lot of Muslims.  Not really sure why but there are.  I knew many professionally, know many as neighbors and family friends.  That perspective means that when I see a horrible situation, I see it as nut jobs within their faith when far more that I know personally represent good, kind people.  So, I see Muslims in a positive light rather than equated the religion to the incidents that occur with the radical side of their faith.  

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I'm not seeing a whole bunch of other terrorists attacking us domestically is all I'm saying.
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Brice, I classify "Muslims in this country whose sole purpose is or becomes murdering as many Americans as they can an especially personnel in the American Armed Forces" as terrorists.  People of other faiths also have terrorists and extremists and murderers among them.  That's my only point.  

It doesn't matter to me if the murderer is Muslim, Catholic, Atheist . . .   they are just a murderer.  

I would expect our president to stand against ALL murderers.  I just don't want everyone to stand against ALL Muslims.  Because they aren't all murderers.  :>)
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No, I don't think "all" Muslims are murderers.  I'm not sure how you concluded that but that isn't important.  I'm specifically referring to the Muslims in this country whose sole purpose is or becomes murdering as many Americans as they can and especially personnel in the American Armed Forces.  

We need to be tolerant of them.  It'd probably be best if we didn't even acknowledge them.  In fact, Muslims killing American Servicemen and Servicewomen probably should be declared a non-issue and nothing to ever be concerned about.  I'll await the Presidents declaration on that.
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973741 tn?1342342773
Yes, we need to be tolerant of Muslims in this country.  Is that the question?  Gosh, you think all Muslim people are murderers?  
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I'm talking about being tolerant of Muslims in this country killing members of the American Armed Forces.  We need to be tolerant, right?  I mean, its reasonable isn't it?
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973741 tn?1342342773
What are you talking about Brice?  

So, if a group of Catholics bomb an abortion clinic, does that mean all Catholics are radical nut jobs?  

It's unfair to categorize an entire religion because of the acts of a sector of that religion.  

Another example, I'm Republican but find the Tea Party to be over the top and not representative of my views.  I get irritated when all Republicans get lumped into that small percentage of Republicans.

It's just not the case that because there are some bad entities within the religion that the whole religion is bad.  

There are many good Muslims in this world.  
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I'm sure we can continue to tolerate Muslims shooting up American bases and service people.  Seems reasonable.
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163305 tn?1333668571
Thank you special mom for seeing so clearly that the problem is not an entire religion but the few extremists within. Extremism and intolerance are the problems.
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973741 tn?1342342773
Extremist of any sort (including far right ones) area always dangerous.  I'm not sure what you are referencing with the above statement or the context.  
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You have the government saying that right wing males are the most dangerous domestic terror threat, so I am in line the with broad brush the government uses, except they will not say anything bad about Islam.

If this was Christians doing this you can bet the media and white house would be condeming christianity.
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