Amazon pedophilia author arrested

[teko]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40754159/ns/technology_and_science-security/


12/20/10


The self-published book was removed from Amazon's Kindle store after it generated online outrage


ST. PETERSBURG, Florida — Florida officials filed an obscenity charge Monday against the author of a self-published how-to guide for pedophiles that was yanked from Amazon.com last month after it generated online outrage .

Polk County sheriff's deputies arrested Philip Ray Greaves II hundreds of miles away from Florida at his home in Pueblo, Colorado, and charged him with violating Florida's obscenity law.

Polk Sheriff Grady Judd said his office was able to arrest Greaves on Florida charges because Greaves sold and mailed his book, "The *********'s Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover's Code of Conduct," directly to undercover Polk deputies. Judd says Greaves even signed the book.

"He very proudly sold us his personal copy," Judd told the Associated Press. "I was outraged by the content. It was clearly a manifesto on how to sexually batter children ... You just can't believe how absolutely disgusting it was."

Laurie Shorter, spokeswoman for the Pueblo County Sheriff's Department, said Greaves would be held in the county jail on the Florida charge. He was being booked Monday morning and it was unclear if he has an attorney. Judd said Greaves could be in Florida as early as Monday night.

"If he will waive extradition, it's my goal for him to eat processed turkey on Christmas Day in the Polk County Jail," Judd said.

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Polk County sheriff's deputies arrested Philip Ray Greaves II (right) hundreds of miles away from Florida at his home in Pueblo, Colorado, and charged him with violating Florida's obscenity law. Denver attorney David Lane, who has handled several high-profile free speech cases, said Florida could have a hard time extraditing Greaves. He is entitled to a hearing where he can argue he should not be sent there to face charges.

"The main question is whether what he's accused of in Florida would be a crime in Colorado," Lane said. "Obviously, it's not a crime in Colorado because he hasn't been arrested here."

Writs of extradition — the paperwork necessary to send somebody to another state — are routinely signed by Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter, a former Denver district attorney. But Lane, who is not affiliated with this case, said it involves a different set of issues.

"Most of other extradition cases present clear-cut cases, the defendant was dealing drugs in that other state or some other crime that is also illegal here," Lane said.

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Ritter's spokesman, Evan Dreyer, did not immediately return a message.

Greaves has no criminal record, but his self-published book of advice on how to make sexual encounters with children safe caused a flap when it showed up on Amazon in November. The book was later removed from the site.

Judd, known throughout Florida as a crusader against child predators, said he was incensed when he heard about the book and that no one had arrested Greaves for selling it.

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.."What's wrong with a society that has gotten to the point that we can't arrest child pornographers and child molesters who write a book about how to rape a child?" Judd said.

The book included first-person descriptions of sexual encounters, purportedly written from a child's point of view.

Greaves argues in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds that it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.

Judd said he and his detectives got Greaves to sell the book to them for $50; he sent it through the mail and told officers it was his last copy.

"If we can get jurisdiction ... we're coming after you," Judd said. "There's nothing in the world more important than our children."

Greaves is being charged with distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors.

[el_em_en_oh]

Oh yeah... blah, blah, blah, rabble, rabble, rabble... this garbage should be stopped and he should be put in jail!!!

[el_em_en_oh]

If he ends up in jail/prison, his days are numbered. Pedo's are the lowest of the low in the prison hierarchy. He'll get a$$-f*cked to death in there!

[teko]

I think the good of the people should come before anyone who is abusing the rights given them. This garbage should be stopped, period.

[narla]

So then as my freedom of speech I can say to someone this is how I am going to kill you,but until I act on it it's not a crime
How do the police convict people for conspiracy to commit an act then, if no crime has been commited isn't that also freedom of speech.
The laws are too confusing

[brice1967]

Somebody on another board was decrying this as a violation of this guys right to free speech.  I guess that might be true, but how in the heck do you think you can publish garbage like this and not be scrutinized for it?  This jerk needs to be under the microscope for the rest of his existance, however long/short it is.

[narla]

I don't understand how these people can believe they are not hurting the child,as a child they may think it's love and that it's ok,but as they grow up their perception of sex and what is normal is screwed.
I speak from experience and it is never ok to seduce and violate a child this way,the loving part of paedophilia is what makes this all the more abhorrant,a child can not distinguish between love and sex,and what child doesn't like attention if they have been groomed to accept this as normal,they could very well enjoy the love and attention.

These people need to be chemically castrated or removed from society.

[teko]

I think this is the next group that will be hailing how natural it is and not cruel at all. You are already hearing this in certain arenas. I say snuff em out anyway we can, and sooner rather than later. And no I do not believe they are entitled to any rights from their sexual preferance or that they were born that way. They are sick and need to be exterminated. Dont I sound like a real good christian person? Sorry, this is such a revulsion to me, tht I just feel that strongly. I would never hurt anyone but would not lose sleep if they disappeared from the face of the earth either.

[ILADVOCATE]

  Yes well the complex issue after that will be another court case determining whether that book would be legally classified as obscene and if so whether it would be legal to sell it to begin with. I support the book being removed from distribution but in order for the author of the book to be arrested there would have to be another case of this nature. I also would doubt if they investigated further that he has only written about what he described in the book if its as explicit as mentioned. The law does need to be more clear in this area. Promoting child abuse is not free speech.