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Discussions to nationalize pensions...eliminate private IRA's and 401K's

A MH member posted this article in his journal and it caught my eye.  Now, the site is definitely conservative in nature, but the article's facts are disturbing.  Hopefully, this is not something that will seriously be considered.  Healthcare is one thing, but to "require" people save a certain way for their retirement?  That is a personal responsibility.  Also, the idea that IRA's and 401K's are "unfair to the poor" is absurd.

I hope this is just the far right's scare tactics, feeding into the idea that we're moving towards socialism.  I tell you, the more things we take from the private sector, and put into gov't hands...that's exactly what we're becoming..socialist.  That's not what this country was built to be.

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I've read something about this, though not quite so drastic.  Agree with Vance that a lot of it is probably spin.  Fear mongering is becoming so popular these days, on both sides.
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I am sure that some of this is spin but I would bet that some is probably true.
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Deputy Treasury Secretary J. Mark Iwry, who presided over the hearing, is a long-time critic of 401k plans because he believes they benefit the rich. He also appears to be one of the Administration’s point man on this issue.

“This whole issue is moving forward very quickly,” warns Crone. “Already there is a bill requiring all businesses to automatically enroll their employees in IRA plans in which part of every employee’s paycheck would be automatically deducted and deposited into this account. If this passes, the government will be just one step away from being able to confiscate all these retirement accounts.”

NSC has taken the lead in warning the nation about this new government onslaught and is plotting ways to stop it.

“This effort ultimately is designed to grab the retirement nest eggs of America’s senior citizens. This new government annuity scheme, even if it is at first optional, will turn into a giant effort to redistribute the wealth of America’s older citizens,” explains Crone. “This scheme mirrors what I expect the President will try to do with Social Security. He wants to turn that program into a welfare program, too.”

NSC will likely unveil a new grassroots campaign effort later this year or early in January to coincide with the seating of the new Congress.


http://shiftfrequency.com/obama-to-nationalize-pension-system-eliminate-iras-401ks/
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“This hearing was set up to explore why Americans are not saving as much for their retirement as they could,” explains National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, “However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover. It feels just like the beginning of the debate over health care and we all know how that ended up.”

A representative of the liberal Pension Rights Center, Rebecca Davis, testified that the government needs to get involved because 401k plans and IRAs are unfair to poor people. She demanded the Obama administration set up a “government-sponsored program administered by the PBGC (the governments’ Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation).” She proclaimed that even “private annuities are problematic.”

Such “reforms” would effectively end private retirement accounts in America, Crone warns. “These people want the government to require that ultimately all Americans buy these government annuities instead of saving or investing on their own. The Government could then take these trillions of dollars and redistribute it through this new national retirement system.”

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The article:

(NSC)  A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.

The hearing, held in the Labor Department’s main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.

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