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Jaden Helm 15?
Hi, has anyone heard of this Jaden Helm 15? I am always late to hear anything. I was on a blog about the poor people going through flooding in various states when I came across someone in Texas mentioning this. They said it was a military exercise however their governor has told his state troopers to keep an eye on them during this exercise which includes 7 states.
Being the nosy/inquisitive person I am I looked it up. There is a lot out there but I was trying to find mainstream news on the subject.
Not sure this is it but still curious. Thank you in advance for any info you can share, apologies if this is not the forum to ask this question
Dee
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/05/25/divided-america-theories-military-takeover-texas-find-legitimacy-political-mainstream/KSScgClOewjIXXisqkF5IM/story.html
Being the nosy/inquisitive person I am I looked it up. There is a lot out there but I was trying to find mainstream news on the subject.
Not sure this is it but still curious. Thank you in advance for any info you can share, apologies if this is not the forum to ask this question
Dee
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/05/25/divided-america-theories-military-takeover-texas-find-legitimacy-political-mainstream/KSScgClOewjIXXisqkF5IM/story.html
Richard
It's funny - isn't it?
I see it as a cry for help.
I see it as a cry for help.
Oh so the "hate-mongers" you refered to several posts ago was about the hate for the government?
"What's happened this time is that the hate mongers and their talk-show-radio-host governor are using this to stir up fear and hate"
"What's happened this time is that the hate mongers and their talk-show-radio-host governor are using this to stir up fear and hate"
Pathological hatred of the federal gov't.
If you didn't pick that up from the article, it's beyond my ability to explain.
If you didn't pick that up from the article, it's beyond my ability to explain.
Again you provide no proof to an absurd statement you made.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/state-of-disaster_b_7481252.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics
"As extreme weather marked by tornadoes and flooding continues to sweep across Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott has requested -- and President Obama has granted -- federal help.
I don't begrudge Texas billions of dollars in disaster relief. After all, we're all part of America. When some of us are in need, we all have a duty to respond.
But the flow of federal money poses a bit of awkwardness for the Lone Star State.
After all, just over a month ago hundreds of Texans decided that a pending Navy Seal/Green Beret joint training exercise was really an excuse to take over the state and impose martial law. And they claimed the Federal Emergency Management Agency was erecting prison camps, readying Walmart stores as processing centers for political prisoners.
There are nut cases everywhere, but Texas's governor, Greg Abbott added to that particular outpouring of paranoia by ordering the Texas State Guard to monitor the military exercise. "It is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed upon," he said. In other words, he'd protect Texans from this federal plot.
Now, Abbott wants federal money. And the Federal Emergency Management Agency is gearing up for a major role in the cleanup -- including places like Bastrop, Texas, where the Bastrop State Park dam failed -- and where, just five weeks ago, a U.S. Army colonel trying to explain the pending military exercise was shouted down by hundreds of self-described patriots shouting "liar!"
Texans dislike the federal government even more than most other Americans do. According to a February poll conducted by the University of Texas and the Texas Tribune, only 23 percent of Texans view the federal government favorably, while 57 percent view it unfavorably, including more than a third who hold a "very unfavorable" view.
Texas dislikes the federal government so much that eight of its congressional representatives, along with Senator Ted Cruz, opposed disaster relief for the victims of Hurricane Sandy -- adding to the awkwardness of their lobbying for the federal relief now heading Texas's way.
Yet even before the current floods, Texas had received more disaster relief than any other state, according to a study by the Center for American Progress. That's not simply because the state is so large. It's also because Texas is particularly vulnerable to extreme weather -- tornadoes on the plains, hurricanes in the Gulf, flooding across its middle and south.
Given this, you might also think Texas would take climate change especially seriously. But here again, there's cognitive dissonance between what the state needs and how its officials act.
Among Texas's infamous climate-change deniers is Lamar Smith, chairman of the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, who dismissed last year's report by the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change as "more political than scientific," and the White House report on the urgency of addressing climate change as designed "to frighten Americans."
Smith is still at it. His committee just slashed by more than 20 percent NASA's spending on Earth science, which includes climate change.
It's of course possible that Texas's current record rainfalls - the National Weather Service reports that the downpour in May alone was enough to put the entire state under eight inches of water -- has nothing to do with the kind of extreme weather we're witnessing elsewhere in the nation, such as the West's current drought, the North's record winter snowfall, and flooding elsewhere.
But you'd have to be nuts not to be at least curious about such a connection, and its relationship to the carbon dioxide humans have been spewing into the atmosphere.
Consider also the consequences for the public's health. Several deaths in Texas have been linked to the extreme weather. Many Texans have been injured by it, directly or indirectly. Poor residents are in particular peril because they live in areas prone to flooding or in flimsy houses and trailers that can be washed or blown away.
What's Texas's response? Texas officials continue to turn down federal funds to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, thereby denying insurance to more than 1 million people and preventing the state from receiving an estimated $100 billion in federal cash over the next decade.
I don't want to pick on Texas. Its officials are not alone in hating the federal government, denying climate change, and refusing to insure its poor.
And I certainly don't want to suggest all Texans are implicated. Obviously, many thoughtful and reasonable people reside there.
Yet Texans have elected people who seem not to have a clue. Indeed, Texas has done more in recent years to institutionalize irrationality than almost anywhere else in America - thereby imposing a huge burden on its citizens.
How many natural disasters will it take for the Lone Star State to wake up to the disaster of its elected officials?"
Vance: "Hate? Hate about what?"
"As extreme weather marked by tornadoes and flooding continues to sweep across Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott has requested -- and President Obama has granted -- federal help.
I don't begrudge Texas billions of dollars in disaster relief. After all, we're all part of America. When some of us are in need, we all have a duty to respond.
But the flow of federal money poses a bit of awkwardness for the Lone Star State.
After all, just over a month ago hundreds of Texans decided that a pending Navy Seal/Green Beret joint training exercise was really an excuse to take over the state and impose martial law. And they claimed the Federal Emergency Management Agency was erecting prison camps, readying Walmart stores as processing centers for political prisoners.
There are nut cases everywhere, but Texas's governor, Greg Abbott added to that particular outpouring of paranoia by ordering the Texas State Guard to monitor the military exercise. "It is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed upon," he said. In other words, he'd protect Texans from this federal plot.
Now, Abbott wants federal money. And the Federal Emergency Management Agency is gearing up for a major role in the cleanup -- including places like Bastrop, Texas, where the Bastrop State Park dam failed -- and where, just five weeks ago, a U.S. Army colonel trying to explain the pending military exercise was shouted down by hundreds of self-described patriots shouting "liar!"
Texans dislike the federal government even more than most other Americans do. According to a February poll conducted by the University of Texas and the Texas Tribune, only 23 percent of Texans view the federal government favorably, while 57 percent view it unfavorably, including more than a third who hold a "very unfavorable" view.
Texas dislikes the federal government so much that eight of its congressional representatives, along with Senator Ted Cruz, opposed disaster relief for the victims of Hurricane Sandy -- adding to the awkwardness of their lobbying for the federal relief now heading Texas's way.
Yet even before the current floods, Texas had received more disaster relief than any other state, according to a study by the Center for American Progress. That's not simply because the state is so large. It's also because Texas is particularly vulnerable to extreme weather -- tornadoes on the plains, hurricanes in the Gulf, flooding across its middle and south.
Given this, you might also think Texas would take climate change especially seriously. But here again, there's cognitive dissonance between what the state needs and how its officials act.
Among Texas's infamous climate-change deniers is Lamar Smith, chairman of the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, who dismissed last year's report by the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change as "more political than scientific," and the White House report on the urgency of addressing climate change as designed "to frighten Americans."
Smith is still at it. His committee just slashed by more than 20 percent NASA's spending on Earth science, which includes climate change.
It's of course possible that Texas's current record rainfalls - the National Weather Service reports that the downpour in May alone was enough to put the entire state under eight inches of water -- has nothing to do with the kind of extreme weather we're witnessing elsewhere in the nation, such as the West's current drought, the North's record winter snowfall, and flooding elsewhere.
But you'd have to be nuts not to be at least curious about such a connection, and its relationship to the carbon dioxide humans have been spewing into the atmosphere.
Consider also the consequences for the public's health. Several deaths in Texas have been linked to the extreme weather. Many Texans have been injured by it, directly or indirectly. Poor residents are in particular peril because they live in areas prone to flooding or in flimsy houses and trailers that can be washed or blown away.
What's Texas's response? Texas officials continue to turn down federal funds to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, thereby denying insurance to more than 1 million people and preventing the state from receiving an estimated $100 billion in federal cash over the next decade.
I don't want to pick on Texas. Its officials are not alone in hating the federal government, denying climate change, and refusing to insure its poor.
And I certainly don't want to suggest all Texans are implicated. Obviously, many thoughtful and reasonable people reside there.
Yet Texans have elected people who seem not to have a clue. Indeed, Texas has done more in recent years to institutionalize irrationality than almost anywhere else in America - thereby imposing a huge burden on its citizens.
How many natural disasters will it take for the Lone Star State to wake up to the disaster of its elected officials?"
Vance: "Hate? Hate about what?"
You've heard the old adage "Practice makes perfect"... Almost all walks of life require continuous training/education to stay current with rules, technique and to just stay in practice and good shape.
If the military doesn't have the practice they need to move troops and equipment when/where needed, they won't be able to do it expeditiously in an emergency. Brice it right... an emergency is not the time for OJT...
If the military doesn't have the practice they need to move troops and equipment when/where needed, they won't be able to do it expeditiously in an emergency. Brice it right... an emergency is not the time for OJT...
The military is constantly training, regardless of how many real situations they have gone through. I can easily see how one could put these facts into a pretty believable story, or at least an open concern.
Id rather these guys have the practice they need if and when we need them to do their jobs. I don't think an emergency is the best place for on the job training.
Id rather these guys have the practice they need if and when we need them to do their jobs. I don't think an emergency is the best place for on the job training.
I think what people are worried about is there has never been such a large military exercise done in so many states. At least that is what I am reading from retired military personnel
Also they are wondering why, if the military has spent so many years in the real situations, they need to practice.
I can see the craziness of the worry but also the fear of people who wonder what this really is.
I have got a bag of salt in this instance :)
Thanks everyone for commenting, I really appreciate all of your view points.
Dee
Also they are wondering why, if the military has spent so many years in the real situations, they need to practice.
I can see the craziness of the worry but also the fear of people who wonder what this really is.
I have got a bag of salt in this instance :)
Thanks everyone for commenting, I really appreciate all of your view points.
Dee
I can't find the story I read on the subject but it says exercises like this are common and essential in the name of preparedness. In the event of an emergency and a lot of gear has to be moved to a specific place, it has to be done quickly and efficiently.
I'd use that grain of salt about right now.
I'd use that grain of salt about right now.
I guess that these exercises have happened in the past but not to the involvement of so many states. There are now states involved.
I get the states that have lots of open lands but Florida?
So that is probably all it is, it is such a huge amount of movement of vehicles, tanks, other large equipment that is is scaring people.
There is even a Facebook page where people are sending in pictures
And someone has found in DTIC what it stands for, they always have acronyms in DOD lol
JADE is an acronym for Joint Assistant for Deployment and Execution
HELM Homeland Eradication of Local Militants
In Florida?? :)
I get the states that have lots of open lands but Florida?
So that is probably all it is, it is such a huge amount of movement of vehicles, tanks, other large equipment that is is scaring people.
There is even a Facebook page where people are sending in pictures
And someone has found in DTIC what it stands for, they always have acronyms in DOD lol
JADE is an acronym for Joint Assistant for Deployment and Execution
HELM Homeland Eradication of Local Militants
In Florida?? :)
I read one article that went so far as to say the military is building watch towers in Walmart parking lots... turned out one city turned an empty Walmart store into a public library!!
Might be interesting to read, but take it with a grain of salt.
Might be interesting to read, but take it with a grain of salt.
Thank you, I appreciate.
Someone said, Google Walmart, DHS and JH15
also Google Walmart tunnels
There are a lot of crazy things going on
Someone said, Google Walmart, DHS and JH15
also Google Walmart tunnels
There are a lot of crazy things going on
Hate? Hate about what?
It is a military exercise and some crazy people came up with the idea that the military is going to take over some states.
People who fear the military are way off base. Our men and women would not follow orders to impose martial law in a state or several states for no reason. It is not like Texas and others are going those some crazy riots or anything like that.
People who fear the military are way off base. Our men and women would not follow orders to impose martial law in a state or several states for no reason. It is not like Texas and others are going those some crazy riots or anything like that.
The US military and National Guard conduct training that involves moving large amounts of equipment in this area on a regular basis. Having lived on the I-10 corridor for many years, I witnessed this over an over.
What's happened this time is that the hate mongers and their talk-show-radio-host governor are using this to stir up fear and hate. Nothing out of the ordinary.
What's happened this time is that the hate mongers and their talk-show-radio-host governor are using this to stir up fear and hate. Nothing out of the ordinary.
I wish there was an edit, meant Jade not Jaden argh!
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