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1530342 tn?1405016490

Now, can we please talk FOOTBALL?

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/14400754/ns/sports/

In the past few weeks, the images I remember about NFL football involve middle-aged men in suits walking in and out of hotels. That’s really not the perception I want to have, and I believe most fans are with me on this.

When I think of NFL football, I want to see action. I’m talking James Harrison administering a questionable hit instead of Tweeting about one. I’m referring to Donovan McNabb illustrating our doubts about his ability to lead a team to a Super Bowl victory on the field rather than us just speculating about it. I want to see Reggie Bush prove to everyone once and for all that he’s an overpriced specialty item.

Now that the lockout is over, we can take our focus off the negotiating table and onto the playing field. Naturally, that brings up some questions:

Is Kevin Kolb really worth banking on as a starting quarterback? To me, it’s like a television network ordering 22 episodes of a series after seeing a 30-second trailer.

Can the Green Bay Packers repeat? Ordinarily, I’d say no, only because it’s a mental grind to ask a Super Bowl winner to generate desire for a second season in a row. But in this case, I say yes, because the lockout created hunger in everyone for more competition, including the Packers.

Will there be any lingering effects on Peyton Manning from his neck injury? Perhaps initially. But he’s Peyton. He’ll play his way through it.

Is Jim Harbaugh serious about having Alex Smith as his starting quarterback for the 49ers? Harbaugh no doubt is a serious man. But nobody in their right mind could be that serious.

Will rookie Cam Newton have an immediate impact on the Carolina Panthers? Yes. But then again, so would a new stadium concessionaire. That franchise needs all the help it can get.

Will Rex Ryan predict his New York Jets will win it all? I’ll answer that question with a question: Do you think he’ll have a big dinner tonight?

Will Mike Brown cut off his nose to spite his face and refuse to trade Carson Palmer in Cincinnati? If Brown could do without an indoor practice facility for his Bengals all this time, he’ll do without a nose.

Will Tony Romo finally catch up to the hype in Dallas? The problem is every time he draws close enough to the hype, the hype pulls away again.

Will the Detroit Lions prove to have the best defensive line in the NFL? Yes, especially when you consider that four of their 16 games will be against the Bears’ Jay Cutler and Vikings rookie Christian Ponder. In fact, after this season, the Lions’ defensive linemen might qualify as human rights violators.

Does NFL still stand for the No Fun League? Well, as of right now, I’ll have to table that discussion for another time, because it’s fun to have it back again.
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206807 tn?1331936184
We almost had a retractable dome when Katrina hit.
http://mediaspin.com/blog/wp-images/superdome_before-after.jpg

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377493 tn?1356502149
Your memories sound pretty accurate.  The C-Train does run from Sunridge Mall into downtown and as a matter of fact is currently being expaned into the SW.  Living off of Deerfoot Trail makes a whole lotta sense if your dad worked by the airport as well.    And it being cold during Grey Cup - yep!!  Last year my husband watched it at a friends house and they built a fire in the backyard firepit and sat in the snow to sit around it.  It's usually snow time already by the time grey cup hits.  Argo's did also play at Exhibition Stadium back then...although they now have a new stadium (Roger's Stadium) with a retractable dome.  Much more pleasant in both the cold weather, and to watch baseball when it's too hot!  
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1310633 tn?1430224091
Yup... we moved away in 1983, just before the summer. They had JUST built the light-rail system out to our neck of the woods (NE). I think I remember riding it a few times from Sunridge Mall into downtown, but it's been a while, so I might have my memories mixed up.

My Dad worked adjacent to the airport, and we lived off Deerfoot Trail. I'm just pulling the names of the streets & the mall directly from memory and don't have much REAL recollection of the time & place. Just vague spatters of memorabilia. I remember my Dad working a part0time job, in the evenings and on weekends, at The Bay, out at Sunridge Mall, but again, my memories of the time & place are slim.

Football in the winter/cold months was BRUTAL. THAT I remember quite well, even though I was a kid at the time.

I remember going to my Dad's friends house to watch a Grey Cup in 1982. It was freaking COLD, COLD, COLD in Calgary, at the time. Eskimos played the Argo's, I'm pretty sure. All I remember is that it was raining in TO... A LOT, and that the Eskimos won. Only reason we watched, was because my Uncle & cousin were AT the game in TO (played at Exhibition Stadium, if memory serves).
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377493 tn?1356502149
Lol, another thing to add to the list...hands off my cards!  Seriously though, I bet you don't have much trouble selling them when the time comes.  There are some awfully serious collectors out there.  I can't say I know much about it, but every now and then something comes up in the paper or from an auction showing some of these cards going for mucho denaro.  What a good investment...and you didn't even know you were investing!

Yep, my husband is a dyed in the wool, loyal Saskatchewan Roughriders fan.  They made it to the Grey Cup the last two years, then choked big time.  

The Stamps play in a pretty decent stadium now.  My biggest complaint is that it is an outdoor stadium, and come Nov it is darned cold.  I have sat with my husband through some of those games freezing my heiny off...no more.  It's now something he does with his buddies.  Saddledome on the other hand is very very nice.  Hockey, I love, football...I can live without.  I guess you must have moved before we had the Roughnecks then.  Lacrosse is my favorite! (another true Canadian sport).  If you moved away that long ago, you wouldn't even recognize Calgary now.  We had a serious population explosion and are now over a million people.  4th largest city in Canada now.  It's ok, but I would move back to Vancouver tomorrow if we could.
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1310633 tn?1430224091
Shoot... I better keep my mouth shut.

Someone on the Left is liable to read the above and think I'm rich, then impose a hockey-card tax on me or something!!!
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1310633 tn?1430224091
Is your husband from Saskatchewan?

I can't say that I KNOW Canadian football, but I'm familiar with the teams. Went to MANY a Stampeders game in the crappy old stadium (I'm assuming it's been replaced since I was there in 1980-83. You want to talk about WINDY?!? That stadium was a freaking FUNNEL for the wind, and cold wind to boot!

To give you a frame-of-reference, I moved away from Calgary JUST as they were finishing construction on the Saddledome. I never actually saw a Flames game in there, as we'd moved to Houston by the time they started playing in there.

As for my Gretzky rookie cards... you know what they say. "Something's only worth as much as someone will PAY you for it". Beckett value for a single, O-PEE-CHEE 1979-80 Gretzky rooking card, is between $1000 & $100,000. It all depends on HOW mint condition the card is.

They use a grading-scale (1-10) for cards, with 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest. I've had my 4 graded, and 1 is a grade-8, and the other 3 are grade-6. They're all in awesome condition, but even a factory-sealed card can come with flaws. Like the way the card was cut at the factory. If the cutter was a little off, even though the card was sealed in factory packaging, it might only rate a grade-8 or 9.

Anyway, mine are worth (together) about $100,000K. But again, it's finding someone to BUY them. I'm sure I could sell them and make a bit of money, but I'm going to sit on them.

I also have several Ray Bourque (1980-81) rookie cards, and 3 Mark Messier (1980-81) rookie cards.

God bless my Mum for keeping them all these years. I just HAPPENED to be a kid and collecting cards, during arguably, the greatest 2 years in hockey history (1979 & 1980), as far as collectible hockey cards go anyway.

Lucky me!

And you're right adgal... I COULD fund my retirement with my card-collection. And that's more than likely when I'll sell them all. My entire collection appraised at $450K, although you'd never know it from looking at it. All my cards are in a plain box, sealed from light, and each card is in a protective pouch. Sent it to a company in Dallas and had them do a workup on each card, individually, and they came back with the $450K number.

Again, finding someone to BUY them is a different story altogether!
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377493 tn?1356502149
btw - as long as we are on the topic of the CFL...my husband is a huge CFL fan and my son's name is Ryder.  Give you one guess as to who my husbands favorite team is..lol.  Figure that one out and I will believe you that you really know your CFL teams.  
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377493 tn?1356502149
Ohhhh...that feels like a challenge to me..lol.  I could list gazillions of good things that came from Canada.  Basketball originated here too.  Yep, invented by a Canadian!  Now I need to go put together a list for you..haha.  However, as far as I am concerned, Gretzky and Moon are probably the ONLY good things to ever come out of Edmonton..lol.  I live in Calgary...we are natural rivals in all things athletic.

Nope, didn't know you were a citizen.  Geeesshhh, apparantly we'll let just about anyone in these days.  Ha, just kidding.  Couldn't resist.   You lived in TO right?  I am visiting my parents reallly close to there right now.  And it is hot hot hot!  My son and I are on a plane tomorrow to head to Saskatchewan, then back to Alberta next week.  Doing our family tour.  

Glad your cards are paying off for you.  A Gretzky in mint condition is worth a small fortune for sure. Hey, if you have 4 that could very well take care of your retirement.  Wish I had collected.
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1310633 tn?1430224091
Did you know that the  Edmonton Eskimos (CFL team in Edmonton) produced one of the best NFL quarterbacks of all time?

Yup... Warren Moon.

He played for the Houston Oilers starting in 1984, and broke pretty much EVERY record on the books. Truly amazing talent. I remember watching him play in the Astrodome on NUMEROUS occasions. My Dad used to take me to see the Oilers every chance we got.

So you see? Something good HAS come out of Canadia!!!

Oh yeah, and I guess Canadia gave us Wayne "The Great" Gretzky in 1979. I still have all my old hockey-cards, and have 4 Gretzky rookie cards in MINT condition! Stumbled across my old hockey-card collection a few years back, that my Mum had kept for me through the years.

I was SHOCKED to find all my old cards in great condition. It's worth a small fortune, but I can't part with them. Too much sentimental value.

Ohhhhh Canada, our home a native land...

(*I'm a Canadian citizen, incidentally. Bet you didn't know THAT!)
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377493 tn?1356502149
Oh boy.  There was a strike?  Well, I guess that's telling as to what a big fan I'm not..lol.  I had no idea....I wish our football league here would strike.  It's football season here right now, and haven't seen my husband in weeks.  (except to ask him about circumcision and mutilation..lol).
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Oh, I get it brother!  That's exactly what I feel.  What I really appreciate is these jokers making this much money and they cannot keep themselves out of trouble.  If I was a pro athlete and making that kind of cabbage, you'd be able to find me at the training facility, another gym, practice, a game or at home..... I'd do nothing to jeopardize that....  I'd hire a couple of dudes to make sure I wasn't going to mess up and I'd take my wife everywhere I ever went....

There was a good bit on ESPN talking about athletes and how they go wrong.  It all makes sense and is kind of tragic in a sense, but damn....
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1530342 tn?1405016490
@ El....I'm sorry...LOL I didn't use cliff notes in college. I did things the old fashion way..hehe
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1310633 tn?1430224091
MrsP:
That's NOT cliff-notes. Not sure what kind of cliff-notes YOU read in college, but mine were of the much-shorter variety!

Brice:
I'm the same way. Before the MLB & NHL strikes, I was a pretty avid baseball & hockey watcher. But after the strikes, and disputes over the players not making enough money (to play a game), I had a difficult time going back.

I can count on ONE hand how many baseball & hockey games I've watched since the strikes. It makes me sad that a bunch of grown men, that get PAID to do something fun, for a living, quibbled and argued over how much higher they thought their paychecks should be.

I know it was about more than that, but MONEY is the issue that stood out in my mind, so I NIX'd baseball & hockey from my sports'watching agenda.

Formula 1 is the only form of sport that I watch these days, and maybe a college football game here and there.

Sad.

So is the NFL strike about money? Just the BOTTOM-LINE, please MrsP...
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1530342 tn?1405016490
Curtesy of Wiki.....( I know you said cliff notes but.....LOL)

The NFL owners unanimously voted in 2008 not to continue with the collective bargaining agreement (CBA) with the National Football League Players Association (NFLPA) following the 2010 season, after previously voting to extend it in 2006. That last labor agreement gave players 57 percent of the league’s $9 billion in revenue, after the owners took $1 billion for growth and development of the league. A major reason for opting out is that the owners want a better deal to help pay for investments they have made on new stadiums and other expenditures. Part of the previous CBA involved a transfer of revenues from the higher earning teams to the lowest, even though some of the higher earners also have higher costs. Players are very skeptical that the owners are losing money as a result of their payments to players, and believe the current pay dispute was deliberately generated by some owners in order to renegotiate their own revenue sharing agreements which are attached to the CBA. The players are resisting any pay cuts across the board.

As bargaining chips, the owners proposed to extend the regular season from 16 to 18 games, establish a rookie wage scale and/or rookie salary cap that would limit first-round draft pick compensation to 40% of the current level, begin routine testing for human growth hormone, and implement other health and safety issues. But the players are concerned that these health and safety proposals would be offset by the potential injuries that might occur during those two extra games.

Anticipating a lockout initiated by the owners if no deal is made, a number of players voted in Fall 2010 to agree to decertify the union, which would expose the owners to potential antitrust lawsuits. However, the players would then lose the ability to collectively bargain with the owners.[6] The league is also exempted from most facets of antitrust laws as a result of Public Law 89-800, passed in the wake of the AFL–NFL merger in 1970, complicating any potential lawsuit against the league. The players union has also hired firms to lobby members of the U.S. Congress on their behalf, claiming that a work stoppage could potentially cost each NFL city $160 million in lost business, a figure that the league owners say is inflated. Congressmen have indicated a willingness to intervene if necessary.

Just before the CBA expired on March 3, both the players and the league owners agreed to extend the negotiations by one week. However, talks eventually broke down, and on March 11, the union formally decertified, after which a group of ten players filed an antitrust lawsuit against the league. (The players involved are Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Colts, Tom Brady and Logan Mankins of the New England Patriots, Vincent Jackson of the San Diego Chargers, Ben Leber and Brian Robison of the Minnesota Vikings, Von Miller who was drafted by the Denver Broncos with the second pick overall, Osi Umenyiora of the New York Giants, Mike Vrabel of the Kansas City Chiefs, Drew Brees of the New Orleans Saints as well as several former NFL players including Priest Holmes of the Kansas City Chiefs. In response to the decertification, the league officially locked out the players. On July 5, 2011, a group of retired NFL players led by Carl Eller, Franco Harris, Marcus Allen and Paul Krause filed its own class-action lawsuit against both the NFL and NFLPA, stating that the decertification disqualified the NFLPA from bargaining on the former NFL players' behalf.

On July 6, 2011, New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman opened an investigation into the league for possible violations of New York State's antitrust law, the Donnelly Act.

This is only the second time in which a labor dispute has affected the preseason. The other was during the 1974 NFL season, in which the College All-Star Game was canceled due to the threat of a work stoppage; an agreement was struck shortly thereafter, and the rest of the preseason, beginning with the Pro Football Hall of Fame Game, was unaffected. The 1982 and 1987 strikes began after the regular season was already underway. The lockout is the longest in the NFL's history; however, because the majority of the lockout has been imposed during the offseason, it has had much less of an effect than shorter strikes in 1982 and 1987, both of which (so far) led to more canceled games.

Kinda like CONGRESS!!!
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I'd like to see the lock out continue.  I'm a big football fan.... I've been a big baseball fan.  Since the last baseball strike, I bet I haven't watched 3 games.  Probably the way I'll go with football too.

It's my understanding that it was about collective bargaining rights.  Players and owners were on opposite sides of the spectrum.  I have a real hard time when millionaires and billionaires cannot get together on how much more each side thinks they are entitled too.
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1310633 tn?1430224091
I haven't been following the HOW and the WHY regarding this lockout/strike/dispute.

What was the bottom-line, in regards to the WHY?

Someone please give me the "Cliff Notes" version, please!

Thanks.
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1530342 tn?1405016490
I'm just glad the lockout is over and football will be back!!!! LET'S GO PATRIOTS, LET'S GO......Who wants some?..lol
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