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Obama, Romney woo a vital bloc: women voters
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Supporters of U.S. President Barack Obama take photographs with their cameras during his campaign rally at Ohio University in Athens, Ohio, October 17, 2012.
Presidential campaign turns into a contest of wooing women… Obama hits Romney on coal… Romney doesn’t mention Libya on the stump yesterday… Obama and the fiscal cliff… New NBC/WSJ/Marist polls of Iowa and Wisconsin to come out at 6:30 pm ET… Ad spending crosses the $800 million mark… Our 10 hottest ad markets of the week… And Obama camp plays in Minnesota.
By Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Brooke Brower
*** Wooing women : It’s very possible that the presidential contest could all come down to a lot of little things and a lot of important demographic groups. But today, it seems, the campaigns are focused on one part of the electorate more than any other -- the female vote. So after the most recent presidential debate raised women’s issues (equal pay, contraception) to the forefront, a group of women who worked with Mitt Romney when he served as Massachusetts governor today embark on a “We Know Mitt” bus tour through Iowa. In addition, Ann Romney appears on “The View,” while the Romney camp is up with a TV ad maintaining that the former Massachusetts doesn’t oppose contraception and thinks abortion should “an option” in cases of rape, incest, or to save the mother’s life. For their part, the Obama campaign and Democrats have seized on Romney’s “binders full of women” line from the debate, with Obama declaring on the trail yesterday: “We don’t have to collect a bunch of binders to find qualified, talented, terrific young women ready to work and teach in these fields right now!” They also have noted that Romney supported the Blunt amendment, which would have allowed employers not to provide contraceptive coverage to their employees. And speaking of contraception, both President Obama and Romney tonight will attend the New York Archdiocese’s Al Smith dinner. Indeed, a few months back, some Catholic pro-life activists tried to get the New York Archdiocese to UN-invite the president because of the contraception health- insurance decision.
After Tuesday’s fiery presidential debate, the heated arguments between GOP candidate Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama showed no signs of cooling on the stump as they tried to cast each other as economic threats to voters in Ohio, Iowa and Virginia. NBC’s Peter Alexander reports.
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*** Obama hits Romney on coal: One of the under-reported issues that came up at the second debate: coal and the surprisingly aggressive pushback on the issue from the president. And the president didn’t stop at the debate; he hit Romney AGAIN on the issue while campaigning in Ohio yesterday. NBC’s Ali Weinberg reports that Obama noted Romney’s praise of coal in Tuesday’s debate. But the president pointed out that as governor of Massachusetts, Romney appeared in front of a coal factory to criticize its high level of toxic pollution, saying, “That plant kills people.” And Obama added, “Does anybody ever actually look at that guy and think, ‘Man, he’s really into coal’”? Obama asked the audience as he chuckled.
*** Romney doesn’t mention Libya: This also caught our eye yesterday: As NBC’s Garrett Haake observes, Romney didn’t mention Libya -- or the exchange on the topic from Tuesday’s debate -- during two campaign stops in Virginia yesterday. Instead, Romney focused on the economy and what he said was Obama’s failure to lay out a vision for a second term. "I think it’s interesting that the president still doesn’t have an agenda for a second term. Don’t you think that it’s time for him to finally put together a vision of what he’d do in the next four years if he were elected?" Romney said in Chesapeake, VA yesterday. By the way, it’s worth echoing what Mike Allen wrote this morning in Politico: This is the SECOND time Romney has given Obama a political “get out of jail” free card on Libya. It only raises the stakes for Romney for the third debate, focused solely on foreign policies. He has to be very careful not to walk into any more rhetorical traps which are much easier to fall into on an issue that isn’t second nature to the challenger.
*** Obama and the fiscal cliff: The Washington Post reports that Obama “is prepared to veto legislation to block year-end tax hikes and spending cuts, collectively known as the ‘fiscal cliff,’ unless Republicans bow to his demand to raise tax rates for the wealthy, administration officials said.” The article goes on to say, “If he wins reelection, Obama may finally be able to dictate the terms of a bipartisan debt-reduction deal. And if he loses to Republican Mitt Romney, Obama could make sure that tax rates rise before he hands over the keys to the White House on Inauguration Day in late January.” But this isn’t a surprise – this has been the Obama plan all along. It would have been bigger news if the White House was signaling that Obama WASN’T WILLING to use a veto here.
*** New NBC/WSJ/Marist polls! Tonight, beginning at 6:30 pm ET, we’ll unveil results from new NBC/WSJ/Marist polls of the Midwestern swing states of Iowa and Wisconsin. The polls were conducted one day BEFORE Tuesday’s debate and one day AFTER it.
*** Ad spending crosses $800 million: As we reported yesterday, spending on radio and TV ads has now passed the $800 million mark and is on pace to reach or come close to $1 billion. The presidential campaigns and outside groups have now spent a combined $810 million. That means in just a month, $200 million in ads have been booked (from the time we reported it crossed $600 million). President Obama’s campaign is one ad buy away from spending $300 million by itself, far outpacing any other single spender at $299 million. The Romney campaign is second at $164 million. But with all outside groups combined, Team Romney is outspending Team Obama, $457 million to $353 million. This week alone, more than $58 million is being spent. Obama leads the pack with $20 million spent, but Romney is close at $16.5 million (of course, he is getting less bang for the buck because of when his campaign books ads). With outside groups factored in, Team Romney’s outspending Team Obama this week, $34 million to $24 million.
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Supporters of U.S. President Barack Obama take photographs with their cameras during his campaign rally at Ohio University in Athens, Ohio, October 17, 2012.
Presidential campaign turns into a contest of wooing women… Obama hits Romney on coal… Romney doesn’t mention Libya on the stump yesterday… Obama and the fiscal cliff… New NBC/WSJ/Marist polls of Iowa and Wisconsin to come out at 6:30 pm ET… Ad spending crosses the $800 million mark… Our 10 hottest ad markets of the week… And Obama camp plays in Minnesota.
By Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Brooke Brower
*** Wooing women : It’s very possible that the presidential contest could all come down to a lot of little things and a lot of important demographic groups. But today, it seems, the campaigns are focused on one part of the electorate more than any other -- the female vote. So after the most recent presidential debate raised women’s issues (equal pay, contraception) to the forefront, a group of women who worked with Mitt Romney when he served as Massachusetts governor today embark on a “We Know Mitt” bus tour through Iowa. In addition, Ann Romney appears on “The View,” while the Romney camp is up with a TV ad maintaining that the former Massachusetts doesn’t oppose contraception and thinks abortion should “an option” in cases of rape, incest, or to save the mother’s life. For their part, the Obama campaign and Democrats have seized on Romney’s “binders full of women” line from the debate, with Obama declaring on the trail yesterday: “We don’t have to collect a bunch of binders to find qualified, talented, terrific young women ready to work and teach in these fields right now!” They also have noted that Romney supported the Blunt amendment, which would have allowed employers not to provide contraceptive coverage to their employees. And speaking of contraception, both President Obama and Romney tonight will attend the New York Archdiocese’s Al Smith dinner. Indeed, a few months back, some Catholic pro-life activists tried to get the New York Archdiocese to UN-invite the president because of the contraception health- insurance decision.
After Tuesday’s fiery presidential debate, the heated arguments between GOP candidate Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama showed no signs of cooling on the stump as they tried to cast each other as economic threats to voters in Ohio, Iowa and Virginia. NBC’s Peter Alexander reports.
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*** Obama hits Romney on coal: One of the under-reported issues that came up at the second debate: coal and the surprisingly aggressive pushback on the issue from the president. And the president didn’t stop at the debate; he hit Romney AGAIN on the issue while campaigning in Ohio yesterday. NBC’s Ali Weinberg reports that Obama noted Romney’s praise of coal in Tuesday’s debate. But the president pointed out that as governor of Massachusetts, Romney appeared in front of a coal factory to criticize its high level of toxic pollution, saying, “That plant kills people.” And Obama added, “Does anybody ever actually look at that guy and think, ‘Man, he’s really into coal’”? Obama asked the audience as he chuckled.
*** Romney doesn’t mention Libya: This also caught our eye yesterday: As NBC’s Garrett Haake observes, Romney didn’t mention Libya -- or the exchange on the topic from Tuesday’s debate -- during two campaign stops in Virginia yesterday. Instead, Romney focused on the economy and what he said was Obama’s failure to lay out a vision for a second term. "I think it’s interesting that the president still doesn’t have an agenda for a second term. Don’t you think that it’s time for him to finally put together a vision of what he’d do in the next four years if he were elected?" Romney said in Chesapeake, VA yesterday. By the way, it’s worth echoing what Mike Allen wrote this morning in Politico: This is the SECOND time Romney has given Obama a political “get out of jail” free card on Libya. It only raises the stakes for Romney for the third debate, focused solely on foreign policies. He has to be very careful not to walk into any more rhetorical traps which are much easier to fall into on an issue that isn’t second nature to the challenger.
*** Obama and the fiscal cliff: The Washington Post reports that Obama “is prepared to veto legislation to block year-end tax hikes and spending cuts, collectively known as the ‘fiscal cliff,’ unless Republicans bow to his demand to raise tax rates for the wealthy, administration officials said.” The article goes on to say, “If he wins reelection, Obama may finally be able to dictate the terms of a bipartisan debt-reduction deal. And if he loses to Republican Mitt Romney, Obama could make sure that tax rates rise before he hands over the keys to the White House on Inauguration Day in late January.” But this isn’t a surprise – this has been the Obama plan all along. It would have been bigger news if the White House was signaling that Obama WASN’T WILLING to use a veto here.
*** New NBC/WSJ/Marist polls! Tonight, beginning at 6:30 pm ET, we’ll unveil results from new NBC/WSJ/Marist polls of the Midwestern swing states of Iowa and Wisconsin. The polls were conducted one day BEFORE Tuesday’s debate and one day AFTER it.
*** Ad spending crosses $800 million: As we reported yesterday, spending on radio and TV ads has now passed the $800 million mark and is on pace to reach or come close to $1 billion. The presidential campaigns and outside groups have now spent a combined $810 million. That means in just a month, $200 million in ads have been booked (from the time we reported it crossed $600 million). President Obama’s campaign is one ad buy away from spending $300 million by itself, far outpacing any other single spender at $299 million. The Romney campaign is second at $164 million. But with all outside groups combined, Team Romney is outspending Team Obama, $457 million to $353 million. This week alone, more than $58 million is being spent. Obama leads the pack with $20 million spent, but Romney is close at $16.5 million (of course, he is getting less bang for the buck because of when his campaign books ads). With outside groups factored in, Team Romney’s outspending Team Obama this week, $34 million to $24 million.
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If this country continues going down the path its on, our sons, daughters, grandchildren, etc, have less than a bright future ahead of them.
Abortion and contraception will be the absolute LEAST of our worries, when China comes knocking for us to tab out.
Abortion and contraception will be the absolute LEAST of our worries, when China comes knocking for us to tab out.
You and Romney agree about equal pay. That's a good thing!! The party platform doesn't include the personhood law.
I will second all the hopes and dreams you have your daughter. May all of our children have bright and wonderful futures!
I will second all the hopes and dreams you have your daughter. May all of our children have bright and wonderful futures!
"Well, what you are saying then is that you expect that your daughter will never be able to pay for her own birth control or have a job that provides her with insurance? "
I am happy that equal pay for women is a law. I pray and will lead my daughter in the path that will enable her the education and resources to find a job that will pay her enough to afford her own birth control but if that's not how it ends up, I pray that her job will cover her. If the personhood law passes her job will not cover regardless...
I am happy that equal pay for women is a law. I pray and will lead my daughter in the path that will enable her the education and resources to find a job that will pay her enough to afford her own birth control but if that's not how it ends up, I pray that her job will cover her. If the personhood law passes her job will not cover regardless...
I can understand how people would not agree with this subject. I mean romney has how many alters thus far. When you think you know where he stands, he changes it without warning. So, one of his alters will fit in with the views of everyone! Stay tuned, it aint over till its over! rofl
Well, what you are saying then is that you expect that your daughter will never be able to pay for her own birth control or have a job that provides her with insurance?
They are speaking about CUTS to planned parenthood in terms of govt. money paying for abortions.
They are speaking about CUTS to planned parenthood in terms of govt. money paying for abortions.
"Mrs. P. You believe there will be no birth control in America? Come on. You are fighting for the right of your granddaughters to have contraceptives? Let's not get too carried away. I don't want to use the word dramatic but am having a tough time coming up with anything else"
What do you call defunding planned parenthood?, repealing Affordable health care?. Romney has been blatant about that. They provide contraceptives. The blunt amendment gives your employer the right to choose whether they want to cover women with regards to reproductive issues. So even if you do have a job and have benefits your female issues may NOT be covered..You think that's ok? These are the things your ticket support. If they are elected that's what's going to happen.. You may think it's dramatic but I don't. The only contraceptive that will be left are condoms....
What do you call defunding planned parenthood?, repealing Affordable health care?. Romney has been blatant about that. They provide contraceptives. The blunt amendment gives your employer the right to choose whether they want to cover women with regards to reproductive issues. So even if you do have a job and have benefits your female issues may NOT be covered..You think that's ok? These are the things your ticket support. If they are elected that's what's going to happen.. You may think it's dramatic but I don't. The only contraceptive that will be left are condoms....
In this election I am IN the bag 100% . You want to argue with me regarding that mole I got on my arse as well?
All aboard! The Obama Express... You know you want to EL!!!!
All aboard! The Obama Express... You know you want to EL!!!!
"...Im not a democrat el, for starters..."
Yeah... pull the other one.
You're about as much of an Independent as I am a Democrat (which is ZERO%, in case that wasn't clear).
You may like to THINK of yourself as an Independent, but your views and comments and opinions say otherwise.
Go back and read your own comments, Teko. You're so far in the bag for the Democratic Party, it's not even funny.
Independent... that's awesome. The fact that you go to sleep at night thinking that, is quite funny.
You are a Democrat, just say it. There's nothing wrong with that. Say it... "I, Teko, am a DEMOCRAT".
You'll feel much better after you say it, I promise!
Yeah... pull the other one.
You're about as much of an Independent as I am a Democrat (which is ZERO%, in case that wasn't clear).
You may like to THINK of yourself as an Independent, but your views and comments and opinions say otherwise.
Go back and read your own comments, Teko. You're so far in the bag for the Democratic Party, it's not even funny.
Independent... that's awesome. The fact that you go to sleep at night thinking that, is quite funny.
You are a Democrat, just say it. There's nothing wrong with that. Say it... "I, Teko, am a DEMOCRAT".
You'll feel much better after you say it, I promise!
Mrs. P. You believe there will be no birth control in America? Come on. You are fighting for the right of your granddaughters to have contraceptives? Let's not get too carried away. I don't want to use the word dramatic but am having a tough time coming up with anything else.
I'm not saying this shouldn't be a huge issue to whomever it is a huge issue to. But this is part of what seperates the parties. I personally wish for more compromise on the issue.
So, on the left------- the right wants to outlaw any and all contraceptives for ALL women at ALL times and on the left, they want to serve contraceptives with the school lunch. (kidding)
I'm not saying this shouldn't be a huge issue to whomever it is a huge issue to. But this is part of what seperates the parties. I personally wish for more compromise on the issue.
So, on the left------- the right wants to outlaw any and all contraceptives for ALL women at ALL times and on the left, they want to serve contraceptives with the school lunch. (kidding)
Im not a democrat el, for starters, and like I said before, in many states Romney is losing by double digits to women for exactly the same reason. You didn't notice how he is walking it back? Even HE has noticed.
"...Least half the country feels the same way..."
Yes... the half that are DEMOCRATS.
The TIMING of this reeks. It's convenient to bring it up NOW, and make a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE deal about it, because it's voting time, and you're hoping to sway some "I" votes to the "D" column.
Teko... just as you question the TIMING of the voter-ID thing, I questions the TIMING of this.
The day after the election, this will be a non-issue, just like voter-ID's.
Yes... the half that are DEMOCRATS.
The TIMING of this reeks. It's convenient to bring it up NOW, and make a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE deal about it, because it's voting time, and you're hoping to sway some "I" votes to the "D" column.
Teko... just as you question the TIMING of the voter-ID thing, I questions the TIMING of this.
The day after the election, this will be a non-issue, just like voter-ID's.
Keep in mind tho, I have several issues with the RR ticket, not just this one....And I am not alone. Least half the country feels the same way. But this subject for me and many like me? Is HUGE
I love how the downplaying of access to contraceptives, a woman's right to choose what is done with her body. To some it may not be that important but as a woman that has a daughter that hope to have granddaughters, I want them to be able to get birth control, I want them to have equal pay, I want them to have the right to choose.
It doesnt have anything to do with a one up. I for one am passionate enuff about this to go the extra mile in halting it.
Lots of good eggs here!! :>)
Well, you guys are voting for Obama. So, you'd say this regardless. This is election time and Democrats think they have a one up on the Republicans on this. That's why it is front and center a couple of weeks before the debate. I get it. I believe in market research . . . you go where you think you can win something. But none of this is new. For the Republican base, this is what it is. For those on the fence about who to vote for---- this is a battle. Can the left make a big enough deal out of this to distract from the economy?
You're a good egg:)
It's "too risky", because you are a DEMOCRAT, and the characters in play are REPUBLICAN and don't suit your current needs.
And don't give me your "I'm an Independent" b/s. You are so far to the Left, if you were any further Left, your head would fly off.
This is being made a HUGE issue by Democrat women, because they have hopes it'll swing women voters towards the Democrat, nothing more.
This is just a convenient topic, to help you get BO back into office.
And don't give me your "I'm an Independent" b/s. You are so far to the Left, if you were any further Left, your head would fly off.
This is being made a HUGE issue by Democrat women, because they have hopes it'll swing women voters towards the Democrat, nothing more.
This is just a convenient topic, to help you get BO back into office.
I don't think I'd have thought twice about the question had it not been for a recent heated thread. I was just trying to point out why maybe NG responded the way she did. I wasn't around much and didn't even see your thread to skip it yesterday---- I was just pointing out that sometimes it is hard to know what someone is getting at and to NG it might have felt like you look down on women that do vote for Republican candidates. I don't really think you do and you've been nice about my answers.
I just don't want a gang up on NG as I think she is good to have around. I had to stick up for my companion in Republicanhood! She's a good egg!!
Kum ba ya. Let's all be friends!!!
I just don't want a gang up on NG as I think she is good to have around. I had to stick up for my companion in Republicanhood! She's a good egg!!
Kum ba ya. Let's all be friends!!!
Yeah, somehow I'm not buyin it. Trust me. And if something happened to Romney, Ryan isn't VP anymore. Nope, too risky
Ryan's personal beliefs are not the party platform. He is running for VP and says publically that he accepts the party platform of abortion allowed for exceptions.
"There is a sentence in what mrs. p wrote that I ignored which said 'why would any woman vote for these guys'. "
I missed this.This is a plain question. There is nothing behind it. You answered that question and I accepted your answer. If you and NG feel like there was something behind it that is on the 2 of you. To me it was a legitimate question.
I missed this.This is a plain question. There is nothing behind it. You answered that question and I accepted your answer. If you and NG feel like there was something behind it that is on the 2 of you. To me it was a legitimate question.
I never thought Romney was against women. I more thought he kinda doesnt think they are equal to men. I cannot base that on any one thing, but more how he is with the subject in general. I think his religion sways him in how he views women. OMG, did I just bring up the R word! I did! I did! I cannot believe I just did that!
Like I've said over and over, it's more than just abortion for me. It's equal pay, Ryan's scary *** Personhoood bill, no access to contraceptives, not to mention Romney thinks I'm a Bum and feels that I pay no taxes and I don't take personal responsibility and I feel entitled to food and healthcare....Meanwhile I'm getting burned and paying higher taxes than he is....
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