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Obama says gay couples deserve same rights as all
NEW YORK – President Barack Obama praised New York state lawmakers who were debating landmark legislation Thursday to legalize gay marriage, saying that's what democracy's all about. But the president stopped short of embracing same-sex marriage himself.
"I believe that gay couples deserve the same legal rights as every other couple in this country," the president said at a fundraiser in Manhattan, his first geared specifically to the gay community. Coincidentally, the long-planned event occurred just as lawmakers in Albany were debating legislation that would make New York the sixth state to legalize gay marriage.
That served to spotlight the president's own views on same-sex marriage, a sore point with gay supporters who've otherwise warmed to him. The president has said his views are "evolving," but for now he supports civil unions, not same-sex marriage.
"Traditionally marriage has been decided by the states and right now I understand there's a little debate going on here in New York," the president said to laughter. He said New York's lawmakers are "doing exactly what democracies are supposed to do."
Debate on the measure continued into the night at the statehouse, and the outcome was uncertain.
As Obama spoke a handful of people shouted out "marriage!" And Obama said, "I heard you guys."
"I believe that gay couples deserve the same legal rights as every other couple in this country," the president said at a fundraiser in Manhattan, his first geared specifically to the gay community. Coincidentally, the long-planned event occurred just as lawmakers in Albany were debating legislation that would make New York the sixth state to legalize gay marriage.
That served to spotlight the president's own views on same-sex marriage, a sore point with gay supporters who've otherwise warmed to him. The president has said his views are "evolving," but for now he supports civil unions, not same-sex marriage.
"Traditionally marriage has been decided by the states and right now I understand there's a little debate going on here in New York," the president said to laughter. He said New York's lawmakers are "doing exactly what democracies are supposed to do."
Debate on the measure continued into the night at the statehouse, and the outcome was uncertain.
As Obama spoke a handful of people shouted out "marriage!" And Obama said, "I heard you guys."
Does anyone see the similarities between the gays rights now and the civil rights fights of years ago? We all know all about that, and we all know that anyone other than whites were basically considered property or a sub species at best. Brave black men and woman began to stand up for their rights, and for a long time they were considered what we call today as "radicals". The only reason they were considered radical was because they had a cause and weren't afraid to talk about it anymore.
With any gays or any of you on this board, nothing you do sexually is going to affect me. There's plenty of sick stuff out there, and although I don't necessarily agree with same sex relations (totally not for me) they have no bearing on my life. I don't see them as sick (mentally), but they just aren't my cup of tea. Then again, I am also not big on having sex with cadavres but thats out there.... beastiality is out there...... those two things are an illness.
With any gays or any of you on this board, nothing you do sexually is going to affect me. There's plenty of sick stuff out there, and although I don't necessarily agree with same sex relations (totally not for me) they have no bearing on my life. I don't see them as sick (mentally), but they just aren't my cup of tea. Then again, I am also not big on having sex with cadavres but thats out there.... beastiality is out there...... those two things are an illness.
Ok, well I will look it up, but I am not afraid to acknowledge that sometimes I am wrong. Latest stats I read was that it was on the rise for young women, but perhaps I misunderstood something. So could be the case. However, if that is correct, I don't see how preventing gay marriage will make any difference. Safe sex practices are what make the difference. And wouldn't monogamy actually be better then?
...Wrong ......and I quote ."we cannot deny that HIV is a 'Gay disease' we have to own that and face it" Matt Foreman former director of the National Gay and Lesbian task force ...we are talking about America here . Plenty more where that came from take a look ...
Now I know you guys are just being silly. Horses and goats in comparison to adult human beings? Puuleeezze. Not the same thing, not even close. I know you aren't being serious though.
Margy, I know there was a time when HIV was really prevelant amongst the gay community. Fortunately, due to education on how to prevent and practicing safe sex, that is no longer the case. In fact, last I read, the highest increase in HIV cases was amongst young women. It never was a "gay" disease, however the most rapid spread was amongst gay men, and of course iv drug users. IV drug users are still high, but for gay men it's about the same now as any other member of the population. You are right though in that that was once the case.
Margy, I know there was a time when HIV was really prevelant amongst the gay community. Fortunately, due to education on how to prevent and practicing safe sex, that is no longer the case. In fact, last I read, the highest increase in HIV cases was amongst young women. It never was a "gay" disease, however the most rapid spread was amongst gay men, and of course iv drug users. IV drug users are still high, but for gay men it's about the same now as any other member of the population. You are right though in that that was once the case.
It seems that the HIV and Aids problems have also been forgotten I think they do exist or has it been eradicated ...that has always been a concern of mine ..Most seem to have accepted it, I still would like marriage be kept for a man and a woman I think its an agenda that homosexuals have to pursue and I wonder why ...like trying to force us to accept them, well I don't accept the insistance that marriage is made legal ..between same sexes ....I am concerned so little is spoken about HIV ...
I say let them go for it. They will soon quit since oral sex seems to be the first to go after marriage.
Caregiver-I hate cutting the grass so I am thinking about practicing polygamy and marring a few goats
Caregiver-I hate cutting the grass so I am thinking about practicing polygamy and marring a few goats
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