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Pay-by-race bake sale at UC Berkeley still on, student Republican group says
(CNN) -- It's meant to be racist, and it's meant to be discriminatory.
And the controversial "Increase Diversity Bake Sale" hosted by the Berkeley College Republicans is still on, the club's president said, despite "grossly misguided comments" and threats aimed at supporters of the University of California, Berkeley, student group.
During the sale, scheduled for Tuesday, baked goods will be sold to white men for $2, Asian men for $1.50, Latino men for $1, black men for 75 cents and Native American men for 25 cents. All women will get 25 cents off those prices.
The bake sale is meant to draw attention to pending legislation that would allow California universities to consider race, gender, ethnicity and national origin during the admissions process.
"We agree that the event is inherently racist, but that is the point," BCR President Shawn Lewis wrote in response to upheaval over the bake sale. "It is no more racist than giving an individual an advantage in college admissions based solely on their race (or) gender."
Similar events have been held at other colleges across the country, generally organized by college Republican groups. In some cases -- such as at Berkeley -- the plan sparked controversy and protests.
Other times, university officials stepped in.
At Bucknell University in Pennsylvania, officials shut down one of the bake sales on campus. Officials at The College of William and Mary in Virginia cut off a cookie sale, saying they were "shocked and appalled."
The University of California, Irvine, shut down a bake sale on campus, saying it was discriminatory. A bake sale at Southern Methodist University in Texas was shut down after 45 minutes because of what officials called an "unsafe environment," according to local reports.
Lewis said the bake sale at Berkeley was unanimously agreed upon by the club, whose leadership includes Asian and Hispanic students and whose membership represents a "wide variety of ethnic backgrounds."
"More than half of the voices were female," he added.
Berkeley's student government, the Associated Students of the University of California, held an emergency Senate meeting late Sunday to discuss the issue and passed a resolution that, in part, "condemns the use of discrimination whether it is in satire or in seriousness by any student group."
"I completely support the idea of BCR -- or any students on campus -- (having) political discussion," ASUC President Vishalli Loomba said. "I think student members of BCR have a full right to express their feelings, but I don't necessarily think this tactic is constructive. I strongly encourage them to engage in this dialogue in a more constructive manner, such as a forum or a town hall meeting.'
But the bake sale is intended to be a direct, "physical counterpoint" to an ASUC-sponsored phone bank -- also scheduled for Tuesday -- during which students will be encouraged to call Gov. Jerry Brown's office to support the legislation, Lewis said. The ASUC has endorsed the legislation, SB 185.
Lewis said supporters of the bake sale have received threats, including people who said they will "stop by the table only to knock it over" or "buy a cupcake just to throw it at (us)."
"Some of the threats online have gotten more specific, but we're hoping that's just emotion," he said.
While the initial feedback to the planned sale was largely in heated opposition, responses have "plateaued" and include the support of self-described Democrats, Lewis said.
Loomba, the student government president, said she is concerned about students potentially feeling ostracized due to the bake sale.
"I have heard that from numerous students who have said this makes students feel unwelcome on campus," she said. "For that reason alone, we should think about what events we have on campus."
Loomba described the situation as a "campus climate issue."
"UC Berkeley stands for a place where everyone -- regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation -- should feel inclusive," she said. "I think they should be able to express their opinion, but keep that value in mind."
As for where the bake sale proceeds will go, Lewis said the College Republicans are considering several charities.
But "because of all this controversy, we don't want to advertise the organization," he said. "We don't want to cause them problems."
SOURCE:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/26/us/california-racial-bake-sale/index.html?hpt=us_c2
And the controversial "Increase Diversity Bake Sale" hosted by the Berkeley College Republicans is still on, the club's president said, despite "grossly misguided comments" and threats aimed at supporters of the University of California, Berkeley, student group.
During the sale, scheduled for Tuesday, baked goods will be sold to white men for $2, Asian men for $1.50, Latino men for $1, black men for 75 cents and Native American men for 25 cents. All women will get 25 cents off those prices.
The bake sale is meant to draw attention to pending legislation that would allow California universities to consider race, gender, ethnicity and national origin during the admissions process.
"We agree that the event is inherently racist, but that is the point," BCR President Shawn Lewis wrote in response to upheaval over the bake sale. "It is no more racist than giving an individual an advantage in college admissions based solely on their race (or) gender."
Similar events have been held at other colleges across the country, generally organized by college Republican groups. In some cases -- such as at Berkeley -- the plan sparked controversy and protests.
Other times, university officials stepped in.
At Bucknell University in Pennsylvania, officials shut down one of the bake sales on campus. Officials at The College of William and Mary in Virginia cut off a cookie sale, saying they were "shocked and appalled."
The University of California, Irvine, shut down a bake sale on campus, saying it was discriminatory. A bake sale at Southern Methodist University in Texas was shut down after 45 minutes because of what officials called an "unsafe environment," according to local reports.
Lewis said the bake sale at Berkeley was unanimously agreed upon by the club, whose leadership includes Asian and Hispanic students and whose membership represents a "wide variety of ethnic backgrounds."
"More than half of the voices were female," he added.
Berkeley's student government, the Associated Students of the University of California, held an emergency Senate meeting late Sunday to discuss the issue and passed a resolution that, in part, "condemns the use of discrimination whether it is in satire or in seriousness by any student group."
"I completely support the idea of BCR -- or any students on campus -- (having) political discussion," ASUC President Vishalli Loomba said. "I think student members of BCR have a full right to express their feelings, but I don't necessarily think this tactic is constructive. I strongly encourage them to engage in this dialogue in a more constructive manner, such as a forum or a town hall meeting.'
But the bake sale is intended to be a direct, "physical counterpoint" to an ASUC-sponsored phone bank -- also scheduled for Tuesday -- during which students will be encouraged to call Gov. Jerry Brown's office to support the legislation, Lewis said. The ASUC has endorsed the legislation, SB 185.
Lewis said supporters of the bake sale have received threats, including people who said they will "stop by the table only to knock it over" or "buy a cupcake just to throw it at (us)."
"Some of the threats online have gotten more specific, but we're hoping that's just emotion," he said.
While the initial feedback to the planned sale was largely in heated opposition, responses have "plateaued" and include the support of self-described Democrats, Lewis said.
Loomba, the student government president, said she is concerned about students potentially feeling ostracized due to the bake sale.
"I have heard that from numerous students who have said this makes students feel unwelcome on campus," she said. "For that reason alone, we should think about what events we have on campus."
Loomba described the situation as a "campus climate issue."
"UC Berkeley stands for a place where everyone -- regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation -- should feel inclusive," she said. "I think they should be able to express their opinion, but keep that value in mind."
As for where the bake sale proceeds will go, Lewis said the College Republicans are considering several charities.
But "because of all this controversy, we don't want to advertise the organization," he said. "We don't want to cause them problems."
SOURCE:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/26/us/california-racial-bake-sale/index.html?hpt=us_c2
You hit the nail on the head.
" It's almost like backwards racism"... that's what this Bake-Sale was all about.
It was to show, in a simple way that everyone could understand, that white people in this country are seen as "rich", by the other ethnic groups.
White people can afford to pay more for things, because they are rich, so why not charge them more for everyday items... such as Bake Sale items?
It's a misnomer that all white people are rich, but I can see how one might think that.
Take you for example... I'm not at all surprised that you grew up thinking that white people were rich, given the environment (neighborhood) you grew up in, and what you were exposed to.
Nail hit on head;-)
" It's almost like backwards racism"... that's what this Bake-Sale was all about.
It was to show, in a simple way that everyone could understand, that white people in this country are seen as "rich", by the other ethnic groups.
White people can afford to pay more for things, because they are rich, so why not charge them more for everyday items... such as Bake Sale items?
It's a misnomer that all white people are rich, but I can see how one might think that.
Take you for example... I'm not at all surprised that you grew up thinking that white people were rich, given the environment (neighborhood) you grew up in, and what you were exposed to.
Nail hit on head;-)
It's funny, I'm married to a white guy and he's not rich..lol..I'll be honest as a child I did actually think white people were rich. My mom was a single mother of 4. She held down 2 jobs and took care of us the best she could. We had the necessities and sometimes we'd get extras. Because we lived in an apartment and my mom didn't drive the best looking car and I didn't always have the newest sneakers or whatever, I would see the white kids that I went to school with and they would have those things plus a nice big house and back yard so naturally I thought they were rich. Funny how for me it wasn't because they were white, it was more because more white kids had the "better stuff" than me and a majority of the other black kids that went to my school with. It just goes to show that it boils down to numbers. The stats Mikesmom shows that there are more whites that make more money than blacks. In no way do I think it shows that whites should be punished or automatically put into a category that isn't always true. It's almost like backwards racism...(I hope that made sense..hehe)
A most astute observation, Brice my friend...;-)
Can't get anything past you!!!
Can't get anything past you!!!
Satirical comment, I think....?
What I want to know is, what is the government doing to get more money into black households?
Those figures are a travesty.
Black families deserve to have just as much money as white households.
What REALLY needs to happen?
The playing field needs to be evened out. The "extra" money that the white households have, should be redistributed to the black households, so that's it's more even.
Problem solved.
Those figures are a travesty.
Black families deserve to have just as much money as white households.
What REALLY needs to happen?
The playing field needs to be evened out. The "extra" money that the white households have, should be redistributed to the black households, so that's it's more even.
Problem solved.
According to census figures for 2008:
17.7% of black households had an annual income of <$15,000
6.6% of white households had an income of < $15,000.
The median income for black households was $39,879.
The median income for white household was $65,000.
See: http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2011/tables/11s0695.pdf
17.7% of black households had an annual income of <$15,000
6.6% of white households had an income of < $15,000.
The median income for black households was $39,879.
The median income for white household was $65,000.
See: http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2011/tables/11s0695.pdf
I always laugh when people think that all whites are "rich". Here is a statistic that may shock those that think that, the race with the highest poverty level is... white! And yet, white people are supposed to be the rich ones, while the others have the lower income. I'm white and my family lives in a low income neighborhood. It's what we can afford. I moved out to be closer to school and my apartment isn't the best, in another city that isn't the greatest, but it was within my price range. Stereotypes will probably always be around, whites being rich, asians are bad drivers, and so on. I just find it funny that people look at me and assume I have a lot of money, when I have paid for everything I own on my own and am pretty much broke. lol.
That is a good question... "Why is it a detriment to be an Anglo American?" It goes back to how Anglos have been portrayed throughout the history of this nation, I believe. I also see this as the same distrust and disgust that the middle east has for the west.
It runs a lot deeper than that. What I'd love to hear is someone who has a general dislike for "whites" to voice their opinion. As with most racist ideals, they are ill thought and under informed or completely ignorant, perhaps all at the same time.
It runs a lot deeper than that. What I'd love to hear is someone who has a general dislike for "whites" to voice their opinion. As with most racist ideals, they are ill thought and under informed or completely ignorant, perhaps all at the same time.
It is hilarious but, 'brings to light' a shameful, unconstitutional practice. The reaction to this 'bake sale' by the establishment reveals the 'political correctness in overdrive' policies of our government. Where is our freedom to voice our feelings, views, and opinions. And, I also want to ask the question. Why is it a detriment to be an Anglo American?
Ah, I don't see this as racist either Mrs. Pincince. I do see it as the current state of affairs, or how the current state of affairs is perceived by some. Some believe that either by race or birth rite, that they are somehow entitled to pay less for certain things.... I'm not sure how they come up with that.
I'd love to have the 54" plasma t.v. to watch football on Sundays, but I cannot afford it. And guess what? I am white.... I know, how dare I not be able to pay the $5,000 for the t.v. and be white at the same time.
I am fully aware of the fact that numerous previous decisions have gotten me in the situation I am in today. (Honestly, I kind of like it....) Not for a second do I think a plasma t.v. or a cookie should be priced higher or lower for me. Neither is a necessity or a basic need. It costs what it costs, and that is the end of the conversation. We all pay ridiculous prices for fuel, and if any of you suckers is getting it at a cut rate because of race, gender, religion, etc.... let me know, because I am willing to convert.
I'd love to have the 54" plasma t.v. to watch football on Sundays, but I cannot afford it. And guess what? I am white.... I know, how dare I not be able to pay the $5,000 for the t.v. and be white at the same time.
I am fully aware of the fact that numerous previous decisions have gotten me in the situation I am in today. (Honestly, I kind of like it....) Not for a second do I think a plasma t.v. or a cookie should be priced higher or lower for me. Neither is a necessity or a basic need. It costs what it costs, and that is the end of the conversation. We all pay ridiculous prices for fuel, and if any of you suckers is getting it at a cut rate because of race, gender, religion, etc.... let me know, because I am willing to convert.
Pretty much sums it up I think. Someone tell me about class warfare. Just cause Im white dont mean I got any more money than a brownie or a blackie. But I guess thats my fault cause if Im white I got no excuse for being poor right? Always did fry my butt just to think about it. Thank god I am a woman! But if I had been a man my wages would have been higher and I wouldnt need the discount for being a woman.
I think it speaks volumes myself!
I think it speaks volumes myself!
The colleges did this before, called affirmative action, letting race be a factor in college admissions. Are they trying to go back to this again?
I think the bake sale is great, which it really makes a good point. It's supposed to make people uncomfortable and does a good job of it since so many people are angry/upset over it.
I think the bake sale is great, which it really makes a good point. It's supposed to make people uncomfortable and does a good job of it since so many people are angry/upset over it.
OMG I saw this. I don't see how it's racist. I think they are trying to highlight that this is how future colleges will make their decisions..Am I wrong?
Now this is just funny;-)
AWESOMELY funny!!!
AWESOMELY funny!!!
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