" I don't think anyone's arguing the fact that a voter ID is a necessity.
If i'm understanding correctly, I think the argument most people has is the TIMING of making it an issue."
That's my beef with it!
I agree, it's the timing that's fishy.
If we are going to require voter ID, then how about the law is passed a full year before an election.
But it still seems silly to me to put all this time and expense into something that simply is not a problem.
Voter fraud is practically non-existent.
ACORN... this is where the acorn thing was brought to light during this last election. Everyone will remember ACORN "registering the dead", right?
I too think its cyclical. Good time to bring it up though, really. One more thing for us to belly ache about and not pay attention to the real issues.
Besides a couple of people here in the CE Forum, I don't think anyone's arguing the fact that a voter ID is a necessity.
If i'm understanding correctly, I think the argument most people has is the TIMING of making it an issue.
But as you said, Brice, this was brought up during the last election-cycle, and has just taken this long to come to the forefront, and receive media attention.
Seems to me, that right around election'time, the voter-ID issue gets raised. After the election? It's forgotten again (until the NEXT election'cycle begins again).
Obviously it must be important as he asked for our help. Others that are a challenge are those disabled that have a hard time getting anywhere and standing in the lines.
If it were that important for me to vote, I'd do all I could to get an ID.
Our community has volunteers to help those who dont have access of getting one. Let me tell you it can be more complicated than one thinks. For instance, there is a guy that was not born in a hospital. He is older, doesnt drive and has a 6th grade education. This one is proving to be a bit of a issue. Then you have the expense, and the long lines for everything including voter id.
I remember talking about this after the last election. This subject got tangled up with the immigration issue around here. A friends daughter (Hispanic and Irish) got asked for her ID on a traffic stop, and threw a fit..... duh! The first thing a cop does on a traffic stop is check ones ID, regardless of race/nationality. The cop told her that this wasn't "a matter of race, that it was a matter of a traffic violation".
I don't get it either way. I'd even pay for 1 person, less fortunate, to get their ID.
I have absolutely no problem with people needing an ID to vote. NONE. I do have a problem with waiting till 3 months of a major election to broach the subject. THAT is election tampering imo.
I don't worry about voter fraud, because, as you say, it's pretty much non-existent; I do worry over the concern for the need to have ID when you vote. If we're all on the up and up, why would we mind having to show ID to vote, just as we have to show ID to be admitted to a hospital, see a doctor, cash a check, drive a vehicle, etc. Nearly every time I leave my house, I have to show my ID for one reason or another. That's a fact of life. My DL even carries a little yellow star to show that I've proved who I am and live where I said I do, from birth, through marriage and to the present.
We all have to have photo ID for everything else, so as long as we have it, what's the deal with showing it at the voting poll? Rather than trying to fight the voter ID issue, maybe more people could help those who might have a hard time to get one. You know, elderly, minorities, etc; they can go vote, but they can't get to the proper office to get ID... I'd be happy to help them, because they could use that ID everywhere they go...
Does anyone else wonder why there is so much energy going into this non-existent problem of voter fraud ?
I, personally, spent the better part of a day, last year, to take my 93 yr old Auntie to get her state issued photo ID, when her DL expired (she hasn't driven in years), because she has to have it to even be admitted to a hospital or to be seen by a doctor. In FL, we even have to provide the paper trail that proves who we are and where we live: birth certificates, marriage license, divorce decrees, bills - anything that might result in a name or address change...... I had to do this, also, to renew my own DL/state issued photo ID, which I, too have to submit prior to voting.
BTW - Auntie is white and has been a registered Democrat all her life and actually voted the party ticket. Unfortunately, she is no longer able to go vote, though I'd be happy to take her if she were.
Truly, great minds think alike LOL!
"That has been made abundantly clear by the House Majority Leader. I cannot in good conscience participate in a decision that so clearly has the effect of allowing politics to trump the solemn oath that I swore to uphold our Constitution. That Constitution has made the right to vote a right verging on the sacred, and that right should never be trampled by partisan politics."
Justice McCaffrey
I think he said it best.
"That Constitution has made the right to vote a right verging on the sacred, and that right should never be trampled by partisan politics. "
I know old person who doesn't drive, lives on a limited income and she has an ID. Oh wait, she's white and republican.
NEXT!
"...requires voters to have specific, state-issued photo ID..."
It just requires an ID of some type, state-issued, but it doesn't have to be an ID specific to voting.
A library-card, drivers-license, hunting-license, bus-pass, etc, would suffice.
That IS a little too much to ask, and would FOR SURE keep many, many, many black people (minorities) and old people from voting.
#1... this law is racist against black people (minorities), as everyone knows, it's nearly impossible for black people (minorities) to get photo-ID's, not to mention the cost implications (black people, minorities, can't afford the $10 it'd cost to get this done).
#2... this law is prejudiced against old people, as everyone knows, it's nearly impossible for old people to get photo-ID's, not to mention the cost implications (old people can't afford the $10 it'd cost to get this done).
Republicans... racist & prejudiced since 1998.
If they are talking about a specific ID for voting only, its a dumb idea. I have to show my drivers license when I vote. That will suffice.
Show me a student without an ID.
Just idiots.