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Chick-fil-A says it will stop funding anti-gay groups
http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/19/13964297-chick-fil-a-says-it-will-stop-funding-anti-gay-groups?lite
By Ben Popken, NBC News contributor
Chick-fil-A has agreed to stop funding groups with anti-same-sex marriage stances, according to a statement released Wednesday by LGBT advocacy group The Civil Rights Agenda.
Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno, who had blocked the fast-food chain from opening stores in Chicago because of its anti-gay views, likewise announced he would now let Chick-fil-A open up new outlets after he received a letter this morning from the company stating that they would cease donating to the groups.
"Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena," Chick-fil-A wrote in an emailed statement to NBC News. Civil Rights Agenda (CRA) and Moreno's office did not respond to emailed requests.
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The chicken-sandwich chain ignited a furor both online and offline this summer after its COO Dan Cathy said that it was company policy to support “the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit.” He stated that in his view, same-sex marriages invite “God's judgment” and its proponents “have the audacity to define what marriage is about.”
In response, gay rights protesters launched nationwide boycotts and staged same-sex “kiss-ins” at Chick-fil-A stores. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee launched a “Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day,” in which supporters of the company's stance on same-sex marriage descended on their local stores to purchase chicken sandwiches en masse.
According to the release by the CRA, the letter stated that chain's charitable wing “is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”
By Ben Popken, NBC News contributor
Chick-fil-A has agreed to stop funding groups with anti-same-sex marriage stances, according to a statement released Wednesday by LGBT advocacy group The Civil Rights Agenda.
Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno, who had blocked the fast-food chain from opening stores in Chicago because of its anti-gay views, likewise announced he would now let Chick-fil-A open up new outlets after he received a letter this morning from the company stating that they would cease donating to the groups.
"Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena," Chick-fil-A wrote in an emailed statement to NBC News. Civil Rights Agenda (CRA) and Moreno's office did not respond to emailed requests.
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The chicken-sandwich chain ignited a furor both online and offline this summer after its COO Dan Cathy said that it was company policy to support “the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit.” He stated that in his view, same-sex marriages invite “God's judgment” and its proponents “have the audacity to define what marriage is about.”
In response, gay rights protesters launched nationwide boycotts and staged same-sex “kiss-ins” at Chick-fil-A stores. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee launched a “Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day,” in which supporters of the company's stance on same-sex marriage descended on their local stores to purchase chicken sandwiches en masse.
According to the release by the CRA, the letter stated that chain's charitable wing “is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”
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Actually I think brice is bored today, he seems to want to play word games. Brice, we will agree to disagree. So in other words, you are more than welcome to your opinion. Move on! Jeeze!
Its just as political as what the chicken man did.... If Romney stopped at a pizza joint, it too would have been political. You folks need to quit taking offense to that. The chicken dude ended up with a political issue on his hands.... nobody is denying that.
This is getting silly...is it a matter of getting the last word here?
Teko believes it is not political...Brice believes it is political.
Let us say it is political...so what? If Romney stopped at a Pizza joint and the owner hugged him, Teko , you and I may say it is political or not, it doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that it is not the same as advertising against a group of people like poor chicken man did.
Teko believes it is not political...Brice believes it is political.
Let us say it is political...so what? If Romney stopped at a Pizza joint and the owner hugged him, Teko , you and I may say it is political or not, it doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that it is not the same as advertising against a group of people like poor chicken man did.
We can disagree. If Romney or any republican made this move, I rest assured that you'd feel differently. Again, that's my perception and you won't agree.
That is your perception brice, not mine. So we will agree to disagree.
I don't care if the President stopped there because the pizza guy folds his paper napkins different than anyone else. It was a political move. He was trying to make himself look like the middle class.
I don't have to read the article teko.... If I read the thing 100 times, you would not be able to tell me that this was not political in its intention or its outcome. POLITICAL 100% of the time.
There are a lot of people who donate blood. Did the President go visit them?
Political.... it was a political move and the president was trying to humanize himself. It's okay teko... you don't need to defend the move. Just admit it and move on.
I don't have to read the article teko.... If I read the thing 100 times, you would not be able to tell me that this was not political in its intention or its outcome. POLITICAL 100% of the time.
There are a lot of people who donate blood. Did the President go visit them?
Political.... it was a political move and the president was trying to humanize himself. It's okay teko... you don't need to defend the move. Just admit it and move on.
Brice, the reason the president stopped at the pizza shop to see this guy is because of an unrelated to politics event. The guy has recieved honors from this president for blood donations he is in charge of. When I say a non political event this is what I am referring to. Did you even read the article? No you didnt did you? I agree it turned political because of the bear hug and the cameras but go back and read why the president stopped in the first place.
I read between the lines and assumed that she was trying to differentiate the two events meaning different types of political motivation was behind the two events.
If I was wrong, so then I disagree with Teko as well as you dudes.
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If I was wrong, so then I disagree with Teko as well as you dudes.
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teko said it wasn't political in nature.
Of course the pizza shot was political. It was a PR stunt.
That differs from the owner of a chain of restaurants publicly taking a stand against a group of people.
One is political and other is based on personal beliefs.
Not the same.
That differs from the owner of a chain of restaurants publicly taking a stand against a group of people.
One is political and other is based on personal beliefs.
Not the same.
OH YOU!!!
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I think I am well balanced between Conservative and Liberal. Example, I don’t have a problem with Gay Marriage as long as both Chicks are Hot.
I am not terribly offended by being called "Left" really, I just don't like the constant labeling. It's really not necessary to always refer to he divide. We all have a lot more in common than not and it is normal to disagree whatever direction we lean.
It is relative. My daughter thinks I am really "right wing" one of my sons thinks I am far left. It is really amusing. Anyway, El, wasn't looking for an apology but thanks for being considerate all the same.
Both events may have been political but I stand by my statement that there is a difference between having a photo op and advertising a stand that is against the rights of a certain group of people.
It is relative. My daughter thinks I am really "right wing" one of my sons thinks I am far left. It is really amusing. Anyway, El, wasn't looking for an apology but thanks for being considerate all the same.
Both events may have been political but I stand by my statement that there is a difference between having a photo op and advertising a stand that is against the rights of a certain group of people.
Go back and read the comments...
"...no one disputes that the Pizza photo shoot was a political move-yes, it was..."
Uh, EVERYONE on the Left (that posted a comment in the thread) is saying that it WASN'T a political move, so I think you're in a minority of ONE saying that it is.
If it was a political move to stop at the pizza place, and chick-fil-a's move is also a political move, the folks have the right to boycott the pizza place just as much as they have the right to boycott chick-fil-a.
As for calling you "Left", my comment wasn't TO you. It was a comment for the board, and I wasn't calling anyone specific out. If you thought it was directed at you, then that might be a little telling in and of itself.
But I'll apologize, none the less, as you thought it was directed at you. I'm not one to call names.
I label people here "Left" and "Right" for lack of better terms, and also because if you're here and commenting, you really ARE either on the Left or on the Right.
I don't mean it in a derogatory way, but if that's your perception, I'm not sure what to tell you, because I'm not going to simply stop saying "Left" and "Right" simply because one person was offended.
And that begs the question... why be offended to be labeled "Left", when your views clearly ARE?
I have zero problem with people saying I'm "Right", because my views ARE.
"...no one disputes that the Pizza photo shoot was a political move-yes, it was..."
Uh, EVERYONE on the Left (that posted a comment in the thread) is saying that it WASN'T a political move, so I think you're in a minority of ONE saying that it is.
If it was a political move to stop at the pizza place, and chick-fil-a's move is also a political move, the folks have the right to boycott the pizza place just as much as they have the right to boycott chick-fil-a.
As for calling you "Left", my comment wasn't TO you. It was a comment for the board, and I wasn't calling anyone specific out. If you thought it was directed at you, then that might be a little telling in and of itself.
But I'll apologize, none the less, as you thought it was directed at you. I'm not one to call names.
I label people here "Left" and "Right" for lack of better terms, and also because if you're here and commenting, you really ARE either on the Left or on the Right.
I don't mean it in a derogatory way, but if that's your perception, I'm not sure what to tell you, because I'm not going to simply stop saying "Left" and "Right" simply because one person was offended.
And that begs the question... why be offended to be labeled "Left", when your views clearly ARE?
I have zero problem with people saying I'm "Right", because my views ARE.
Still a Double Standard. If you make a stand regardless of Political, Religious, Moral, etc. motivation, then you have to accept the repercussions of your actions. Thus, the Pizza Man is no different from the Chicken Man. When Pizza Man showed his support for Obama he made a stand.
On another note, I wish I could see his books so I would know if his business really declined or if this was just more media B.S.
On another note, I wish I could see his books so I would know if his business really declined or if this was just more media B.S.
How rude El! I told you to stop calling me "left".
Brice, Glass and El, no one disputes that the Pizza photo shoot was a political move-yes, it was. Still, it is not the same to show support for a candidate as it is to advertise your support for a move against a group of people.
Brice, Glass and El, no one disputes that the Pizza photo shoot was a political move-yes, it was. Still, it is not the same to show support for a candidate as it is to advertise your support for a move against a group of people.
ANYTHING a candidate does during campaign-season, is POLITICAL in nature.
Saying that President Obama simply stopped at the pizza place as a publicity stunt, to grab a slice, that had NO political undertones, is NUTS.
If the pizza shop had been owned by a staunch Republican, do you think BO would have stopped by?
NO... he wouldn't have.
Double-standards hard at work here on the CE Forum. Then again, it's coming from the Left, so I'm not sure why I'm surprised.
Oh wait, I'm not.
Saying that President Obama simply stopped at the pizza place as a publicity stunt, to grab a slice, that had NO political undertones, is NUTS.
If the pizza shop had been owned by a staunch Republican, do you think BO would have stopped by?
NO... he wouldn't have.
Double-standards hard at work here on the CE Forum. Then again, it's coming from the Left, so I'm not sure why I'm surprised.
Oh wait, I'm not.
I read the article and I know the story. The stop was all about politics. It was all about politics and trying to look human... trying to look middle class. You can call it whatever you want teko, if it makes you feel better.
This was completely about politics....
This was completely about politics....
If you think that then you have not read either story. Totally different.
Set the issues aside and look at the whole picture. Both made a stand and their was a public outcry that jeopardized their business (more media hype than public outcry). But one is justified and one wasn’t. This is a double standard. Forget about Romney, Obama, and how you feel about the issues. I went back and re-read most of your posts and most of you actually agree with El, in your posts but your agreeing with Teko post. You can’t have it both ways. Either Pizza Guy or Chicken Guy was both wrong or both right.
The stop at the pizza place was a publicity stunt of sorts. There's a restaurant I passed recently in Chinatown in S.F. which proudly mentioned Obama stopping there when he visited.
This is indeed different than the owner of a chain actively denouncing a segment of the population.
I guess this one goes to Teko, sorry El.
This is indeed different than the owner of a chain actively denouncing a segment of the population.
I guess this one goes to Teko, sorry El.
Lol.
I see it as a double standard.
Unless Teko admits defeat (which aint going to happen), it’s tied up at 3 to 3.
Unless Teko admits defeat (which aint going to happen), it’s tied up at 3 to 3.
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