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Sizing up the "birthers"
Sizing up the "birthers"
Asked an open-ended question about where President Obama was born, 14 percent of Americans say he was born abroad - giving an incorrect answer that shows how widespread the misunderstanding of his birthplace is nearly a year and a half into his presidency.
Fully 68 percent of those surveyed in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll say, unprompted, that he was born in the United States, including 48 percent who accurately cite Hawaii. Another 9 percent say it's their "best guess" that he was born in this country, bringing the total saying he is U.S.-born to 77 percent.
Obama made light of the fuss over his nativity last week at the White House Correspondents Dinner
Broad majorities across party lines volunteer that Obama was born in the U.S., although substantial numbers in some groups say he wasn't. In addition to the 14 percent who volunteer that he was born in another country, another 6 percent say that's their best guess. Overall, about a third of Republicans and conservatives say Obama was born in another country, or call it their best guess. Asked how firmly they hold this belief, most say they see his being born outside the country as their "suspicion only."
About a third of all those who say Obama might have been born in another country approve of how he's handling his job as president, hold favorable views of him personally and prefer him over congressional Republicans when it comes to dealing with issue No.1, the economy.
Some 9 percent see "solid evidence" that Obama was born elsewhere, a figure that peaks at 17 percent among those who consider themselves to be ideologically "very conservative."
Q: On another subject, where was Barack Obama born, as far as you know?
4/25/10
United States NET 68
Honolulu/Hawaii 48
America/U.S. (other specific) 8
America/U.S. (general) 12
Another country NET 14
Kenya 3
Africa (other) 4
Other (specific) 3
Other (general) 4
No opinion 19
Q: (IF DON'T KNOW) Is it your best guess that Obama was born in the United States, or in another country?
NET table
---United States--- --- Other country ---
Best Best No
NET Initial guess NET Initial guess opin.
4/25/10 77 68 9 20 14 6 3
Q: (IF ANOTHER COUNTRY)(Do you think there's been solid evidence of that), or (is that your suspicion only)?
NET table
------- Other country -------
Solid Suspicion No No
U.S. NET evidence only opin. opinion
All adults 77 20 9 10 1 3
Democrats 83 15 6 7 1 2
Republicans 65 31 11 19 * 4
Independents 79 18 9 9 1 3
Liberals 87 12 5 6 * 1
Moderates 82 16 7 8 * 2
Smwt consrvs. 68 27 11 14 2 5
Very consrvs. 59 36 17 20 0 5
By Jon Cohen | May 7, 2010; 7:00 AM ET 44 The Obama Presidency , Post Polls
Why was there a need for the Gov. of Hawaii to make his birth certificate unavailable? Why if there is no issue will they still not release it. It appears to me its not the birthers causing the problem. It is The administration. If you don't like the word coverup then I suggest you don't coverup."
so do you have your original birth certificate, i know I don't and can't get it from the state of MO since it is now microfilmed and stored. I get a certified true copy for my passport. Most other states have done the same for the last 30 years or so. So how do you release the true copy. This is chattering morons trying to undermine a political opponent who they can't tag as stupid since he hasn't given them grounds to do so
Posted by: chet_brewer | May 7, 2010 8:59 AM
Birthers, Tea Party, militias -- distractions to shield a rogue bureaucracy from accountability...
HOMELAND FUSION CENTERS SILENTLY ASSAULT CITIZENS WITH MICROWAVE 'TORTURE TOWERS' GOD MACHINE: VETERAN JOURNO
"The scalar waves produced by the microwave/laser radio frequency directed energy weapon (RFDE) are capable of carrying multiple "subcarrier" radio frequencies that affect human physiology, at variable power levels (or "amplitude"). In effect, the RFDE arms security forces with a "God machine" that can manipulate, disrupt, or destroy the biological processes that govern the functioning of human beings."
-- Veteran Journalist Vic Livingston, from:
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
ATTACKS GO ON AS OBAMA ADMIN DOES NOTHING TO STOP FUSION CENTER ATROCITIES, COMMUNITY-BASED VIGILANTE TERRORISM
"America's most serious terrorism threat emanates from a rogue bureaucracy."
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener re: "U.S. Silently..." and "Gestapo USA..."
Posted by: scrivener50 | May 7, 2010 9:02 AM
"Why was there a need for the Gov. of Hawaii to make his birth certificate unavailable? Why if there is no issue will they still not release it."
It's because Hawaii has these pesky things called privacy laws - the same laws which prevent state governments from releasing your original birth certificate to anyone who asks for it, regardless of their need or plans for it. The document Obama released is his official Hawaii birth certificate and is fully accepted by the federal government and all state governments as proof of birthplace and thus citizenship. Live with it.
Posted by: JackCarter42 | May 7, 2010 9:04 AM
Hee hee hee, the birthers are really fans of that moron w whose stupidity and incompetence they miss. But seriously though, they are mentally ill j a c k a s s e s. Idiots.
Posted by: davidsawh | May 7, 2010 9:12 AM
Asked an open-ended question about where President Obama was born, 14 percent of Americans say he was born abroad - giving an incorrect answer that shows how widespread the misunderstanding of his birthplace is nearly a year and a half into his presidency.
Fully 68 percent of those surveyed in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll say, unprompted, that he was born in the United States, including 48 percent who accurately cite Hawaii. Another 9 percent say it's their "best guess" that he was born in this country, bringing the total saying he is U.S.-born to 77 percent.
Obama made light of the fuss over his nativity last week at the White House Correspondents Dinner
Broad majorities across party lines volunteer that Obama was born in the U.S., although substantial numbers in some groups say he wasn't. In addition to the 14 percent who volunteer that he was born in another country, another 6 percent say that's their best guess. Overall, about a third of Republicans and conservatives say Obama was born in another country, or call it their best guess. Asked how firmly they hold this belief, most say they see his being born outside the country as their "suspicion only."
About a third of all those who say Obama might have been born in another country approve of how he's handling his job as president, hold favorable views of him personally and prefer him over congressional Republicans when it comes to dealing with issue No.1, the economy.
Some 9 percent see "solid evidence" that Obama was born elsewhere, a figure that peaks at 17 percent among those who consider themselves to be ideologically "very conservative."
Q: On another subject, where was Barack Obama born, as far as you know?
4/25/10
United States NET 68
Honolulu/Hawaii 48
America/U.S. (other specific) 8
America/U.S. (general) 12
Another country NET 14
Kenya 3
Africa (other) 4
Other (specific) 3
Other (general) 4
No opinion 19
Q: (IF DON'T KNOW) Is it your best guess that Obama was born in the United States, or in another country?
NET table
---United States--- --- Other country ---
Best Best No
NET Initial guess NET Initial guess opin.
4/25/10 77 68 9 20 14 6 3
Q: (IF ANOTHER COUNTRY)(Do you think there's been solid evidence of that), or (is that your suspicion only)?
NET table
------- Other country -------
Solid Suspicion No No
U.S. NET evidence only opin. opinion
All adults 77 20 9 10 1 3
Democrats 83 15 6 7 1 2
Republicans 65 31 11 19 * 4
Independents 79 18 9 9 1 3
Liberals 87 12 5 6 * 1
Moderates 82 16 7 8 * 2
Smwt consrvs. 68 27 11 14 2 5
Very consrvs. 59 36 17 20 0 5
By Jon Cohen | May 7, 2010; 7:00 AM ET 44 The Obama Presidency , Post Polls
Why was there a need for the Gov. of Hawaii to make his birth certificate unavailable? Why if there is no issue will they still not release it. It appears to me its not the birthers causing the problem. It is The administration. If you don't like the word coverup then I suggest you don't coverup."
so do you have your original birth certificate, i know I don't and can't get it from the state of MO since it is now microfilmed and stored. I get a certified true copy for my passport. Most other states have done the same for the last 30 years or so. So how do you release the true copy. This is chattering morons trying to undermine a political opponent who they can't tag as stupid since he hasn't given them grounds to do so
Posted by: chet_brewer | May 7, 2010 8:59 AM
Birthers, Tea Party, militias -- distractions to shield a rogue bureaucracy from accountability...
HOMELAND FUSION CENTERS SILENTLY ASSAULT CITIZENS WITH MICROWAVE 'TORTURE TOWERS' GOD MACHINE: VETERAN JOURNO
"The scalar waves produced by the microwave/laser radio frequency directed energy weapon (RFDE) are capable of carrying multiple "subcarrier" radio frequencies that affect human physiology, at variable power levels (or "amplitude"). In effect, the RFDE arms security forces with a "God machine" that can manipulate, disrupt, or destroy the biological processes that govern the functioning of human beings."
-- Veteran Journalist Vic Livingston, from:
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
ATTACKS GO ON AS OBAMA ADMIN DOES NOTHING TO STOP FUSION CENTER ATROCITIES, COMMUNITY-BASED VIGILANTE TERRORISM
"America's most serious terrorism threat emanates from a rogue bureaucracy."
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener re: "U.S. Silently..." and "Gestapo USA..."
Posted by: scrivener50 | May 7, 2010 9:02 AM
"Why was there a need for the Gov. of Hawaii to make his birth certificate unavailable? Why if there is no issue will they still not release it."
It's because Hawaii has these pesky things called privacy laws - the same laws which prevent state governments from releasing your original birth certificate to anyone who asks for it, regardless of their need or plans for it. The document Obama released is his official Hawaii birth certificate and is fully accepted by the federal government and all state governments as proof of birthplace and thus citizenship. Live with it.
Posted by: JackCarter42 | May 7, 2010 9:04 AM
Hee hee hee, the birthers are really fans of that moron w whose stupidity and incompetence they miss. But seriously though, they are mentally ill j a c k a s s e s. Idiots.
Posted by: davidsawh | May 7, 2010 9:12 AM
In the US, you can request by mail, for a small price, your birth certificate. It's a certified birth certificate from the state and county of your birth. You can not request some one else's , and must show proof of who you are. At least, that's how New York City does it.
Ohhh, Ok, now I understand. I could not for the life of me figure out why people where still questioning this. They want to see the actual original, issued at birth, birth certificate..correct? As opposed to the copy he has. Oh dear, I hope no one ever needs to see mine as all I have is a copy and therefor could never possibly get my hands on the original. The one I have was sufficient for my passport and both verify I am a Canadian citizen.
So, in the US, you have to have the original? What happens if you lose it? Do you lose your citizenship? I guess still confused here.
So, in the US, you have to have the original? What happens if you lose it? Do you lose your citizenship? I guess still confused here.
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