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Something dirty going on?
Pro-Russian Crimeans toast future with Moscow after 95% approval vote...
FLASHBACK: February Poll Showed Just 41% support...
www.drudgereport.com
Is where the headlines
FLASHBACK: February Poll Showed Just 41% support...
www.drudgereport.com
Is where the headlines
Another piece to the puzzle. Thank you.
Ukraine Fallout: Putin Hands The Pentagon A Rationale For New Nuclear Weapons
http://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthompson/2014/03/20/ukraine-fallout-putin-hands-the-pentagon-a-rationale-for-new-nuclear-weapons/?partner=yahootix
http://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthompson/2014/03/20/ukraine-fallout-putin-hands-the-pentagon-a-rationale-for-new-nuclear-weapons/?partner=yahootix
OH: There you go again with personal attacks. You can't stop can you? Maybe you should read Barbs post again? I made no personal attacks but you did.
Nobody is beating the war drums, but the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction remains hugely profitable. Lockheed, Boeing, and their Russian counterparts would like nothing better than to bring the Cold War back up a couple notches to a simmer. Putin stands up to and stands for nothing. He is just as much in the pocket of his military/industrial complex as D ick Cheney was. In fact, they might as well be the same person and would switch sides in a heartbeat for a $ or a ruble.
Republicans won't let it happen. Condi Rice is rallying the troops as I expected.
I'm going to have to agree with Brice on this.
Russia standing their ground against the U.S. is a sign of the times. We've lost so much credibility recently, with the "Don't cross this red line!", and "Stop! Or we'll say stop again!!!" type of b/s.
Russia is proving a point to the rest of the globe, that you CAN say no to the U.S., and get away with it.
Do I personally admire Putin? No
Do I personally care what happens between the Ukraine, Crimea & Russia? No
Do I have respect for a nation that stands up for itself and doesn't back down from an ageing bully? Yes
Don't twist my words and say "You admire Putin? That's like admiring Hitler! You're a racist for disagreeing", because nothing could be further from the truth.
I'm a firm believer in people standing up for themselves, whatever the situation. And in this case, it just happens to be Putin/Russia vs. Obama/U.S.
Bush did it to, when Putin put tanks in Russia blah-blah-blah. Sure, but that was a LONG time ago, and probably posted in another thread. THIS thread is about Putin/Russia & Obama/USA, so the Bush comments don't apply.
Russia standing their ground against the U.S. is a sign of the times. We've lost so much credibility recently, with the "Don't cross this red line!", and "Stop! Or we'll say stop again!!!" type of b/s.
Russia is proving a point to the rest of the globe, that you CAN say no to the U.S., and get away with it.
Do I personally admire Putin? No
Do I personally care what happens between the Ukraine, Crimea & Russia? No
Do I have respect for a nation that stands up for itself and doesn't back down from an ageing bully? Yes
Don't twist my words and say "You admire Putin? That's like admiring Hitler! You're a racist for disagreeing", because nothing could be further from the truth.
I'm a firm believer in people standing up for themselves, whatever the situation. And in this case, it just happens to be Putin/Russia vs. Obama/U.S.
Bush did it to, when Putin put tanks in Russia blah-blah-blah. Sure, but that was a LONG time ago, and probably posted in another thread. THIS thread is about Putin/Russia & Obama/USA, so the Bush comments don't apply.
Will you stop with the childish defenses? You know exactly what you are doing.
mikesimon
To: brice1967
"Why do you feel that way?'
Vance2335
Mar 18, 2014
'Why else because he is a racist. You know that everyone who disagrees with Obama or does not like him is a racist. So why even ask that question of him?'
Vance~Grow up and stop acting like a troll or leave CE.
mikesimon
To: brice1967
"Why do you feel that way?'
Vance2335
Mar 18, 2014
'Why else because he is a racist. You know that everyone who disagrees with Obama or does not like him is a racist. So why even ask that question of him?'
Vance~Grow up and stop acting like a troll or leave CE.
"... Its time for America to tend to American business...."
Isolationism has been promoted before now and it was significantly more viable a couple of decades earlier than it would be now. Our world is so interconnected that we can't simply detach. I don't know what we should do in this situation but I doubt that ignoring it is the answer.
Isolationism has been promoted before now and it was significantly more viable a couple of decades earlier than it would be now. Our world is so interconnected that we can't simply detach. I don't know what we should do in this situation but I doubt that ignoring it is the answer.
I'm not saying this JUST happened. It's happened before as you mentioned and it is very likely to happen again. We aren't learning anything and I find that as problematic.
desrt.... nobody is beating the war drums here and nobody told me to feel the way I do. Its time for America to tend to American business.
desrt.... nobody is beating the war drums here and nobody told me to feel the way I do. Its time for America to tend to American business.
OH: So I don't have the right to make comments then?
Nothing I said was out of line, I just echoed what has been said here and in the media about disagreeing with Obama.
Nothing I said was out of line, I just echoed what has been said here and in the media about disagreeing with Obama.
"who thrives and prospers"
It's not admiring Putin. They're telling you to disrespect our President or anyone else who tries to keep the world stable and not slide back into an Arms Race.
It's not admiring Putin. They're telling you to disrespect our President or anyone else who tries to keep the world stable and not slide back into an Arms Race.
If anyone is telling you to 'admire' Putin, it's a safe bet they, or the financial backers of their media, have a vested interest in promoting a Cold War mentality.
[That reads: arms manufacturers, Halliburton/Brown/Root, Boeing, or anyone else ho thrives and prospers off your fear.]
[That reads: arms manufacturers, Halliburton/Brown/Root, Boeing, or anyone else ho thrives and prospers off your fear.]
"...There is no calling anyones bluff anymore. We haven't the clout to just show up and regulate anymore. More of the world does not respect us...."
So I guess that we've been in that situation for a while - like when Putin went into Georgia with tanks and Bush did NOTHING.
Don't pretend this just happened - this weak impotent USA.
And really, we can annihilate Russia any time we choose.
Not hatin' just sayin'.
So I guess that we've been in that situation for a while - like when Putin went into Georgia with tanks and Bush did NOTHING.
Don't pretend this just happened - this weak impotent USA.
And really, we can annihilate Russia any time we choose.
Not hatin' just sayin'.
Mike's comment was directed to Brice, not you.
Please re-read Barbs thread:
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Current-Events---/GROUP-BEHAVIOR/show/2118289
Please re-read Barbs thread:
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Current-Events---/GROUP-BEHAVIOR/show/2118289
I'm no military strategist but I can voice my opinion on this. I see this being something along the lines of Bosnia or Kosovo. We still have peace keeping troops there..... Why?
The days of America showing up and scaring everyone into compliance are over. Putin is pointing that out. There is no calling anyones bluff anymore. We haven't the clout to just show up and regulate anymore. More of the world does not respect us.
Putin being defiant should be a wake up call for the folks in DC. We need to rethink everything we do. Were not the bully anymore.
Putin being defiant should be a wake up call for the folks in DC. We need to rethink everything we do. Were not the bully anymore.
That's fine.
I should elaborate a little.
I agree that we have domestic issues that need addressed. I also agree that we should be careful before getting involved in another country's affairs. I'm not sure this type of behavior by Putin should be ignored however and I definitely don't see any admirable qualities in the man. Her may be more than just defiantly standing his ground here and as far as that goes - you could say the same thing about every dictator who ever lived - they were being defiant. Look at Kim Jong-Un - now that is one defiant guy who really seems to be standing his ground.
I agree that we have domestic issues that need addressed. I also agree that we should be careful before getting involved in another country's affairs. I'm not sure this type of behavior by Putin should be ignored however and I definitely don't see any admirable qualities in the man. Her may be more than just defiantly standing his ground here and as far as that goes - you could say the same thing about every dictator who ever lived - they were being defiant. Look at Kim Jong-Un - now that is one defiant guy who really seems to be standing his ground.
"I appreciate the guy standing his ground...."
I really don't get it.
I really don't get it.
"I kind of like the fact that Putin is being defiant."
Perhaps that is a bad use of words. I appreciate the guy standing his ground. The reasoning behind that is, I think we often have our noses in places/cultures where it doesn't belong. As well, I am tired of this country being the worlds watch dog. We often inject ourselves into factions that have been warring for hundreds or thousands of years.
I think these folks are capable of working this out on their own and I am worn out on American posturing. I feel its a bad policy
We've got so many issues that should be tended too domestically. I am convinced that we should be taking care of domestic issues.
Perhaps that is a bad use of words. I appreciate the guy standing his ground. The reasoning behind that is, I think we often have our noses in places/cultures where it doesn't belong. As well, I am tired of this country being the worlds watch dog. We often inject ourselves into factions that have been warring for hundreds or thousands of years.
I think these folks are capable of working this out on their own and I am worn out on American posturing. I feel its a bad policy
We've got so many issues that should be tended too domestically. I am convinced that we should be taking care of domestic issues.
Or maybe he likes the fact that the smoke & mirrors of the campaign and administration is coming down? The idea that Obama would be the great unit'er is gone because he never was and this just another proof that he is not.
But hey I'm a racist too because i disagree with Obama so my words are useless.
But hey I'm a racist too because i disagree with Obama so my words are useless.
Why else because he is a racist. You know that everyone who disagrees with Obama or does not like him is a racist. So why even ask that question of him?
Why do you feel that way?
I kind of like the fact that Putin is being defiant.
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