Unions doing what they do best

[brice1967]

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/10/chrysler-workers-fired-for-drinking-back-on-job-against-automake/?icid=maing-grid7|maing5|dl24|sec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D243427

This is part of what I really appreciate about unions....

[Barb135]

Maybe companies might want to look at giving employees paid breaks...... In the job I retired from, I got a 15 minute break in the morning, a 30 minute lunch break and a 15 minute break in the afternoon.  I never went off the clock....... If I got to work at 5:30 am (which I did, most days), I left at 1:30 pm and that was an 8 hr day..... never  mind that I hardly ever took the 15 min morning/afternoon breaks, and often didn't get a lunch break if I was really busy. They got more work from me, than I got money from them....

[nursegirl6572]

Teko, I get it...I understand the process.  My beef is that the union should never have filed the grievances to begin with.  I think it's nuts.

The union should have never backed them.  I've had so many bad experiences and witnessed the protection of bad employees over and over, so, yes, it is a big sore spot for me.  

IMO, this is just a perfect example of how unions do exactly that..protect the crappy employees who blatantly disregard the rules and disrespect the company, yet someone with a legit grievance, maybe over unfair distribution of OT...gets shrugged away.

[teko]

LOL, nursegirl, arbitration is a right under their contract. But it was not the UNION who made the call regardless of whether they ended up siding with the union or the employer, that is just happenstance. lol Calm down!

[nursegirl6572]

So the issue isn't that they were on a break, but rather the company didn't drug test them?

It's still outrageous, but yes, the company should have followed protocol.  I still think it's outrageous that the union backed them.  OUTRAGEOUS.

I'm sure they weren't smoking fake pot or drinking fake alcohol.  Plus, this wasn't a one time thing either, they did it several times.

[Barb135]

Seems that we were all reading/typing at the same time.........

[teko]

Exactly Barb, It is my understanding that pot stays in the system for up to 30 days. They should have sent them first thing for a blood draw and fired them based on that blood draw. Now if they are smart, they will send them for random drug testing about once a month and if they are a smoking it will show up and they could still fire em.