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White tongue

Hi,

On the 15th of Januray I have noticed that I have this white tongue, usually I have a nice pink tongue. I noticed this white tongue because one moning when I woke up I had vey dry mouth so I went to check it in the mirror. Later on I started to have 37.2 degree temperature for 6 days (it was coming back to normal at some parts of the day)
Here is the story On the 24th of december I went to the dentist to have a root canal treatment on one of my tooth and other work was done on my teeth, the dentist prescribed me Dalacin C 300mg for a week in order to avoid any infections. I also have a rotten tooth that also needs a root canal treatment. Recently I went to an ENT doctor who said that on first sight nothing alarming and took a swab sample of the white coating, which came back negative.

I do not know if this is important but 4 months ago I received an unprotected fellatio and all my STD test came back negative.

What can this be? how can I treat it?

Thank you very much for any advice.
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4851940 tn?1515694593
I am sorry to hear that you are scared.

As you are stressed and depressed this will have an impact on your eating habits.  Some people (like myself) when depressed and suffer from stress eat more and gain weight.  Others, like yourself, it affects the appetite and therefore you don't fee like eating.

Please go to see a GP, (hope you have been keeping a food and drink and "how I feel every day" diary), take your notes with you to the doctor so that he will see a pattern of what is going on.

Hopefully he will take a blood sample to check for anaemia, diabetes or other illnesses (depends on what the doctor thinks you may have)  NOTE what I have said "MAY have".  

As you are not experiencing any digestive problems apart from loss of appetite, best to see the GP first, he will then determine whether you need to be examined by a gastroenterologist.

As you have a constantly dry mouth (I have this problem too), drink plenty of water.  Sometimes with a dry mouth (if you are not breathing through an open mouth) can also be from diabetes.

I know you are worried that you have lost this weight because you have not consciously been dieting.  Go to the Doc as explained above, and ask for a blood test for anemia, B12 deficiency and diabetes.

In the meantime, do not eat hot and spicy foods, or fried foods.
Keep up with the good oral hygiene and drink the yogurt and apply the Daktarin (if you read the instructions, it does say to continue for a few days after the symptoms have settled).  When you apply it to yuor mouth, put some in and swish it around your mouth.  Try not to eat or drink too soon afterwards so that the Darktarin stays in your mouth for as long as possible.

Stress and depression is no good for your health, and your doctor should ask you questions with regard to this, as you may need a course of antidepressents (if you are not taking any at the moment).  Don't forget that not all antidepressents suit all people, so it is trial and error getting the right one that suits you.  If you fall rock bottom and lose interest in hygiene and your hobbies for example, it will take up to 3 months for the antidepressants to have any effect.

You need to speak on a one to one basis with your doctor.  Write a list of all your problems and hand that to your doctor (sometimes this is better than talking with him because you may miss something out).  

In the meantime eat foods that contain iron, milk, eggs, meat (for B12) and dark green veg, You can buy B12 sublingual (placed under the tongue), excess B12 in your body will be excreted through the urine.  And multivitamins with iron.  But best to get a blood check with your doctor.

To help with the stress and depression before you  see the doctor, go for walks in the fresh air as well as any form of relaxation you prefer - not sitting in front of a computer or TV.  

Hope you get on alright and that I have given you lots to think about to help you get back on track again.

Best wishes.
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It is not uncommon  to develop oral thrush after a broad spectrum antibiotic.
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Yes, you are quite right maatson that when taking antibiotics you can get thrush and most people do.

This is because although the antibiotics kill off the bad bacteria, the changes in the flora of our bodies changes to the perfect environment for the thrush.

In fact my thrush in my mouth was really bad, my tongue was coated, felt dry and  was being irrated by my new cap.  I initially though it was to do with the fact that I had a dental procedure that lasted for 2 hours and had to get used to the new cap.  After suffering for over week it dawned on me that just about the same time as having my dental work I had also been taking an antibiotic for a urinary tract infection.  Doctor confirmed that it was thrush and prescribed me with Nystan oral suspension contain the active ingredient nystatin, which is an antifungal medicine used to treat infections with fungi and yeasts. (NB. Nystatin oral suspension is also available without a brand name, ie as the generic medicine.)  

I had to have another bottle of the suspension as the first one had not got rid of all the thrush.  The suspension is cherry flavoured and tastes quite nice.  Home remedy is natural yogurt that cotains live probiotic cultures - Lactobacillus acidophilus etc.  Also cut down on your sugary food/drink intake.
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Thank you very much for your answer.

I received a fellatio didn't perform one. I still have a rotten tooth. I don't have white patches on my inner cheeks, these should be quiet visible right if they are present?

The ENT doctor took a sample of my tongue for analyses of bacteria and fungus and came back negative. it said no bacterial fungus growth after 36 hours.

I went today to the dermatologiste and he didn't really see anything very disturbing but he prescribed me Candivast 150 mg for one week, it is a candida medication. He said it might cause of poor oral hygiene and smoking.

Should I take something else like acidophilus?

Tell me what do you think eveyone. Thanks
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Ok I have just called the clinic to know exactly about my swab test. it says "no pathogen growth after 36 hours culture". does this cover trush, candida, yeast etc?

if I had washed my mouth in the morning at 7H30 AM with a mouthwash and the swab test was done 12 hours later at 7h30 PM could it have been affected?
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FYI Candivast is just another name for Fluconazole
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4851940 tn?1515694593
  As the swab came back negative it is likely that the doctor prescribed you with the Candivast 150m for one week as a prevenative measure because you have had a course of antibiotics (the Dalacin C) and with your ongoing dental problem snd white coated tongue.

Sorry about not quite understanding the  fellatio bit.  Anyway hope you enjoyed it.  You wouldn't have got fungal infection from receiving a fellatio.  Had the person giving you the fellation had had a thrush or candida  infection in their mouth, that would have spread the fungus to your penis.

Although you had a mouth wash in the morning and the test swab was taken 12 hours later, yes, the fungus would still have been detected (depends on what they were testing you for).

It will not harm you to take acidophilus.  Although you can buy it tablet form, you can drink/eat live yogurt.  Yacult (probably spelled it wrong) yogurt drinks I believe contain the good bacteria.  In fact with you eating or drinking the yogurt, this will coat your mouth with the good bacteria and will also help with any discomfort you may be experiencing in your mouth.  If you do smoke, it would be a good idea to stop by gradually cutting down on the cigs.  Cigarettes contain 92 different carcinogens.

The candida strain that causes Thrush is Candida Albicans.
I have copied and pasted the information below to help you understand about Candida which I hope you find useful.  There is more information on the web about candida, but I have only copied and pasted what I thought was more relevant.
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Symptoms of candida yeast overgrowth include:

Recurring vaginal yeast infections, oral thrush (accumulation at the back of the throat and white coated tongue), migraine headaches, sinus, ear or eye infections, toenail or skin fungus or rashes including jock itch, food allergies, brain fog, depression, just plain feeling whacked out and irritated, low sex drive, fatigue, low thyroid, low adrenals and more.

If you are not sure if you have candida yeast overgrowth, take this simple test:

It is very accurate, and won't cost you a penny. My experience, from talking with literally thousands of people over the last ten years, is that this simple test is at least as accurate as blood tests and stool samples. Once you've taken it, you'll know for sure if you have candida overgrowth and to what extent the overgrowth may be.

If you know you have candida overgrowth, and are looking for a way to get rid of it once and for all, skip down to the next section below.

How To Tell If You Have Candida  -  The Free and Accurate Candida Spit Test.


THE TEST: In the evening, put a clear glass of water by your bed. First thing in the morning, briefly rinse your mouth, swallow, then gather some saliva in your mouth and spit into the glass of water (be sure to spit out saliva, not mucus). Keep an eye on the water for half an hour -- especially the first few minutes. If you have candida overgrowth, you will see one or more of the following:



1. Strings (legs) hanging down from the saliva.
2. Heavy-looking saliva at the bottom of the glass.
3. Cloudy specks suspended in the water.



If, within three minutes after spitting into the water, you see “strings” hanging down, cloudy specks showing up in the water, or “debris” sinking to the bottom, you most likely have extensive overgrowth, which will require more candida-fighting action on your part.

If it takes longer than a few minutes for anything to show up, the candida is not as serious.

If the saliva just floats on top and the water stays perfectly clear, you most likely don’t have candida overgrowth.

The logic behind the test is simple.

If you have candida overgrowth, it will show up in the saliva, a friendly environment for yeast. When you spit into the glass, the aerated saliva is lighter than water. However, candida is heavier than either. Whether it sinks as "legs", falls to the bottom, or floats around in the water, all are indications of candida. The more you see, and the faster you see it, the more systemic the infection.

Candida concentrates in saliva overnight, so this test is most accurate first thing in the morning.

I suggest rinsing out your mouth first, because, if you happen to be sleeping in a room with mold, you may have mold in your mouth from the room, and that could show up in the saliva too.

Some people claim this test is not accurate, but that has not been my experience. Out of the thousands of times I've suggested that someone do the spit test, just to confirm that they had candida, only once did someone tell me that their test showed clear water and no debris, that they did not have candida, when it was obvious from all their symptoms that they had candida overgrowth. And....

Among the many who tested positive, ALL had candida symptoms.

I've heard more often, though still only rarely, from people who said their blood test or stool sample test was negative, even though they were clearly suffering, based on their symptoms and the spit test, from candida overgrowth. So this spit test is at least as accurate as expensive tests available from doctors.

Why It's So Hard To Eliminate Candida Yeast Infections

To understand why getting rid of candida can be so much harder than knocking out a bacterial infection, you need to know how candida yeast overgrowth manifests in your body.

About 80% of the time, candida overgrowth occurs when antibiotics kill the friendly bacteria in the intestinal tract. Divided up about equally, are cases of candida overgrowth caused by candida spores being breathed in, transmitted orally through food sharing, kissing, or similar activities, and as babies picking it up from their mothers. Overgrowth cannot occur when the immune system is strong and the friendly flora (said to comprise 70% of the immune system response) are plentiful.

When much of your friendly flora have been destroyed, and your immune system has weakened, the oxygen-loving candida yeast begin to flourish, morphing into anaerobic candida fungi. No longer needing an oxygen-rich blood supply, the fungi are able to exist anywhere in the body.

Initially, these fungi are primarily in the intestinal tract. There, the toxic waste they chemically produce (acetylaldahyde, the same chemical that causes a hangover), irritates and weakens the intestinal wall. Candida fungi have tiny "legs" which, as the intestinal wall becomes damaged, are able to "drill" holes in the intestinal wall, leading to poor digestion and "leaky gut syndrome".

These holes enable candida to travel throughout the body, over time establishing themselves systemically. The leaky gut also allows partially digested food to enter the bloodstream. This food is not able to be used by your cells, and your immune system must get rid of that food. Over time, people develop food allergies, a sure sign of candida overgrowth.

Candida yeast loves sugar, excreting chemicals that cause you to crave sugars and all types of carbohydrates. Of course, as the yeast digests the food sugars before your body can use them, your cravings may be caused by low blood sugar levels.
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