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ARS after 6 days?
Hey all. I feel like there's a chance that I might have made a huge mistake and given my gf HIV. Here it is in a nutshell. My last exposure was a little under 10 weeks ago. I had protected oral AND vaginal sex with a sex worker. Stupidly, I didn't ask her HIV status. Anyway, a couple weeks ago, I took an 8 week Oraquick test. Results were negative. Before that, I took a ELISA blood test 6 weeks post expsure and that was negative and a PCR DNA test / ELISA 2 weeks after the exposure and that came back negative too. Per the doctor's advice, after the 8 week test I put my worries to rest. However, 6 days ago, I had unprotected sex with a girl that I'm dating. Last night, she came down with a fever and sore throat. So now I'm worried that she's experiencing ARS symptoms. Please advise? Can ARS show up that soon?
CDC and the doctors here are giving the exact same info just worded differently:
lets take the CDC advice, sentence by sentence ( the parts in quotes are all found in the CDC site):
" Most people will develop detectable antibodies within 2 to 8 weeks (the average is 25 days) ".
this sentence is 100% consistent with what the docs here say. The difference is that the docs give THEIR estimates of how much is "most people", which is 98%-99% of the people, according to them.
lets continue
"Even so, there is a chance that some individuals will take longer to develop detectable antibodies. Therefore, if the initial negative HIV test was conducted within the first 3 months after possible exposure, repeat testing should be considered >3 months after the exposure occurred to account for the possibility of a false-negative result."
CDC says "some individuals", do they say what kind of people could take longer to develop antibodies? just what or who are these "individuals"? who knows! just remember CDC has to be extremely conservative because anyone going to their site or accesing their info would follow their protocol, the individuals could be a drug junkie with a supressed immune system in Denmark, or someone who took some strange, extreme medicine in the Arab emirates, that messed up the antybodies production, or could be ANYONE with an specific case too. The docs don't speak against a 3 month window period, they just tend to think that antibody production post 8 weeks is something that happens in a case by case basis, not on people with absolutely normal lifes that do excersice, don't take drugs or alcohol, or have taken chimo or strong medicines, which by the way, makes 98-99% of the people.
lets continue
"Ninety-seven percent of persons will develop antibodies in the first 3 months following the time of their infection. In very rare cases, it can take up to 6 months to develop antibodies to HIV. "
exactly what the docs say: most people would have developed anybodies by the 3rd month. the things is the docs are kind enough to tell us that the last weeks of the window period are there to catch EVERYONE on the net, that means the "individuals" with specific cases of late seroconversion, which make 1% or 2% of all the people that will turn positive.
so what then? well, take a test past the 8 weeks line and watch the results. If it is still negative, stay calm, believe what the docs say and keep the hope that you are not one of the very rare individuals that zeroconvert in the later part of the window period, PERIOD.
lets take the CDC advice, sentence by sentence ( the parts in quotes are all found in the CDC site):
" Most people will develop detectable antibodies within 2 to 8 weeks (the average is 25 days) ".
this sentence is 100% consistent with what the docs here say. The difference is that the docs give THEIR estimates of how much is "most people", which is 98%-99% of the people, according to them.
lets continue
"Even so, there is a chance that some individuals will take longer to develop detectable antibodies. Therefore, if the initial negative HIV test was conducted within the first 3 months after possible exposure, repeat testing should be considered >3 months after the exposure occurred to account for the possibility of a false-negative result."
CDC says "some individuals", do they say what kind of people could take longer to develop antibodies? just what or who are these "individuals"? who knows! just remember CDC has to be extremely conservative because anyone going to their site or accesing their info would follow their protocol, the individuals could be a drug junkie with a supressed immune system in Denmark, or someone who took some strange, extreme medicine in the Arab emirates, that messed up the antybodies production, or could be ANYONE with an specific case too. The docs don't speak against a 3 month window period, they just tend to think that antibody production post 8 weeks is something that happens in a case by case basis, not on people with absolutely normal lifes that do excersice, don't take drugs or alcohol, or have taken chimo or strong medicines, which by the way, makes 98-99% of the people.
lets continue
"Ninety-seven percent of persons will develop antibodies in the first 3 months following the time of their infection. In very rare cases, it can take up to 6 months to develop antibodies to HIV. "
exactly what the docs say: most people would have developed anybodies by the 3rd month. the things is the docs are kind enough to tell us that the last weeks of the window period are there to catch EVERYONE on the net, that means the "individuals" with specific cases of late seroconversion, which make 1% or 2% of all the people that will turn positive.
so what then? well, take a test past the 8 weeks line and watch the results. If it is still negative, stay calm, believe what the docs say and keep the hope that you are not one of the very rare individuals that zeroconvert in the later part of the window period, PERIOD.
I don't want to start anything with anybody (esp. Teak) but I was just wondering how exactly the FDA and the people who design the test arrive at the conclusive 3 month mark? What kind of testing (for the test) could they possibly do?
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