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How early can an hiv infecter person infect anothe person?

I was tested December 13, 2010.  Then again February 2, 2011.   Both those tests where negative, throughout the holidays I did not have sex.  On January 5, 2011 I had unsafe sex with a guy.   On January 12, 2011 I had unsafe sex with another guy.  That's it in the past 6 months.  The January 12 guy tested positive.  I got a text from him telling me.  The Jan 5 guy says he's negative, although I don't quite believe him.  The only way I could get it was if I got it from the Jan 5 guy then gave it to the Jan 12 guy.  Both times I was only the top.  I did not even suck them.  I just topped.  The guys are 7 days apart.  Is it possible to get infected and then infect someone 7 days later?  Is it likely, highly unlike or just possible?  Also, say I was infectious at day 7.  Wouldn't that mean it was moving along fast and I'd develop antibodies fast?  Meaning, that I'd likely test positive at day 29?  The average person will test positive around day 30, some as early as two weeks.  Since I tested negative at day 29, will I likely test negative again next week when I get tested?  I just want your opinion.  Facts are:

-both times I topped
-is it likely that a guy can infect another guy at day 7?  I was told by my doctor friend that at 7 days a viral load would be very low and that infecting someone would be highly unlikely.  What do you think?
-if I was infection at day 7, wouldn't the HIV be moving along fast and have antibodies fast, meaning a positive test at day 29 was likely?

I know the risk is high, but since I have such exact numbers, and I was tested all around the time I was at risk, I'm wondering if you can give me an estimate of how likely I am to test positive.

And if I test negative next week, I won't have unsafe sex with ANYONE. I'm scared to death right now.
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I'm not putting blame.  I did make the mistake of believing him.  Plus, maybe he was saying the truth and he really is neg and I am also.  But, if I do test positive.  We both made mistakes.  They are different though.

Him:  He lied, told me he hadn't had sex in over 6 months, had been tested in December and was negative.

Me: I made the mistake of believing him.

Making up such a detailed lie to get me to have sex with him is much worse than the mistake I made which was believing him.  But yes, we both made mistakes.
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1494472 tn?1299610437
whatever your point of view ,,, SAFE SEX MEANS PROTECTED INTERCOURSE
men women trans aliens speach do not HAVE to change behavior
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Whoa, don't put all the blame on him it takes two.
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yeah, what I used to think was that it was relatively safe if the guy was recently tested and hadn't had unsafe sex in months.  That's true, what's not factored in is that guys lie a lot.

I know its illegal to lie about being hiv+, but since its difficult to prove and no one has been prosecuted for that.  Guys continue to lie about it and not care.  When I asked the Jan 5 guy about it, he kept telling me he was neg and "do you know how rare it is for a top to get it.  I'm neg, and you have nothing to worry about with me."
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1494472 tn?1299610437
bareback is a suicide practise ,, you do know and not only regarding hiv
no matter your test final results you ALLLLLLLways have to use condom
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@nursegirl  I agree, everyone is being tested.  My problem was believing guys.  The Jan5 guy told me he was negative, that he was tested in December and that he hadn't had sex in over 6 months.  Looking back, it almost was too good.  He likely said that to get me to have sex with him.  6 months, plus a recent test clears him of all risk.  If he was being 100% honest.  Now looking back I think it was just him trying to say anything I wanted to hear to get me to **** him bb.  He still insists he'd negative.  I asked him to get retested, and he said he did.  He says he's negative.  But, if he lied initially he can easily lie again.

Jan 12 guy.  He's the honest one.  He was tested last week and tested positive.  He then texted everyone he felt was at risk (or that he could have gotten it from).  I was on his list.  Now that we've talked more, I noticed he was the type that thought the risk was low as long as the guy didn't cum in him.  He was in the very high risk category, since guys where ******* him bareback.  Looking back at all I know from both guys, I'm thinking the Jan 12 guy was likely pos before we had sex, meaning, regardless I've been at risk.  The difference being that if the Jan 5 gave it to me and I infected Jan 12 guy, then I'm likely pos.  If the Jan 5 guy is being honest and the Jan 12 guy was already pos, then the risk of me being pos is much lower.  Both time I was only the top.

It would make me sleep better if I felt I was at lower risk of testing pos.  I'd like to think positive and think that the Jan 5 guy is not lying and that he really is negative.  But, I don't know him good.  He could be lying.  Its just a waiting game till we all get tested.  Since I was tested Feb 2, I was told to wait till April, that way I'll know for sure.  A test now could give me false hope.

If I test positive, my flaw was trusting guys.  I don't drink.  I don't use drugs.  I don't even like drinking soda often.  Yet, I believed a guy when he told me he was neg and recently tested.  In the gay world its best to not trust anyone when it comes to that.  You never know who will lie.  Hopefully I test negative, if I do, in the future I won't trust what guys say when it comes to sex.

Believe me, I've been thinking about this a lot.  I regret trusting people.  There's really no way to safely bareback.  Guys in relationships often cheat.  Guys that are exclusive often are with other guys.  The only way to be sure you're safe is to always have safe sex with everyone.  The Jan 5 seemed as safe is they got.  He said he hasn't had sex in over 6 months, that he was neg and tested in December (we had sex Jan 5), and if I do test positive. Its because of him.  To this day, he still insists he's neg and even told me he was retested.  If I test positive, this is truly an example that you can't trust anyone.  Anyone can be lying.
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