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How early can an hiv infecter person infect anothe person?
I was tested December 13, 2010. Then again February 2, 2011. Both those tests where negative, throughout the holidays I did not have sex. On January 5, 2011 I had unsafe sex with a guy. On January 12, 2011 I had unsafe sex with another guy. That's it in the past 6 months. The January 12 guy tested positive. I got a text from him telling me. The Jan 5 guy says he's negative, although I don't quite believe him. The only way I could get it was if I got it from the Jan 5 guy then gave it to the Jan 12 guy. Both times I was only the top. I did not even suck them. I just topped. The guys are 7 days apart. Is it possible to get infected and then infect someone 7 days later? Is it likely, highly unlike or just possible? Also, say I was infectious at day 7. Wouldn't that mean it was moving along fast and I'd develop antibodies fast? Meaning, that I'd likely test positive at day 29? The average person will test positive around day 30, some as early as two weeks. Since I tested negative at day 29, will I likely test negative again next week when I get tested? I just want your opinion. Facts are:
-both times I topped
-is it likely that a guy can infect another guy at day 7? I was told by my doctor friend that at 7 days a viral load would be very low and that infecting someone would be highly unlikely. What do you think?
-if I was infection at day 7, wouldn't the HIV be moving along fast and have antibodies fast, meaning a positive test at day 29 was likely?
I know the risk is high, but since I have such exact numbers, and I was tested all around the time I was at risk, I'm wondering if you can give me an estimate of how likely I am to test positive.
And if I test negative next week, I won't have unsafe sex with ANYONE. I'm scared to death right now.
-both times I topped
-is it likely that a guy can infect another guy at day 7? I was told by my doctor friend that at 7 days a viral load would be very low and that infecting someone would be highly unlikely. What do you think?
-if I was infection at day 7, wouldn't the HIV be moving along fast and have antibodies fast, meaning a positive test at day 29 was likely?
I know the risk is high, but since I have such exact numbers, and I was tested all around the time I was at risk, I'm wondering if you can give me an estimate of how likely I am to test positive.
And if I test negative next week, I won't have unsafe sex with ANYONE. I'm scared to death right now.
No, it would just make me worry less if the chances of testing positive are in the highly unlikely range. Since I'm getting tested next week.
My doctor friend, although he's not an hiv expert, said that the odd are on my side since at day 7 a high viral load that's big enough to infect someone is highly unlikely.
Also, that say it was moving along that fast, that I'd likely test positive at day 29. But, he's not an expert. I'd like a more expert opinion.
I'm worried to death right now. I'd feel better if I was at least in the likely negative risk zone.
And no, after this, I'm scared to death. Its safe sex with everyone if I test negative.
My doctor friend, although he's not an hiv expert, said that the odd are on my side since at day 7 a high viral load that's big enough to infect someone is highly unlikely.
Also, that say it was moving along that fast, that I'd likely test positive at day 29. But, he's not an expert. I'd like a more expert opinion.
I'm worried to death right now. I'd feel better if I was at least in the likely negative risk zone.
And no, after this, I'm scared to death. Its safe sex with everyone if I test negative.
Odds? Odds are played in gambling not with yours or anyone else's health. Bud you are not even close the the negative zone area.
Ok, but do you know how likely it is for a person to infect another person 7 days after being infected?
I was told that at day 7 its unlikely the viral load would be high enough to infect another person, and that if it was that high, that it would be moving along faster than usual, which means I'd have antibodies fast. Meaning, I likely would have tested positive at day 29. True?
I was told that at day 7 its unlikely the viral load would be high enough to infect another person, and that if it was that high, that it would be moving along faster than usual, which means I'd have antibodies fast. Meaning, I likely would have tested positive at day 29. True?
I have heard people can infect someone early on, and that its possible to infect someone early on. But, I was also told that at day 7 its highly unlike the viral load would be high enough to infect someone. That it was possible, but highly unlikely. True?
I read on aids.org that people are most infectious 2-3 months after testing positive. That to them could be seen as early on, since hiv is for a lifetime.
I read on aids.org that people are most infectious 2-3 months after testing positive. That to them could be seen as early on, since hiv is for a lifetime.
Why i didn't use a condom? I believed the guy. He told he hadn't had sex in 6 months, that he was neg and had been tested in December. He still claims he's negative by the way.
At this point, if I test negative, I'm not believing anyone when it comes to testing and being neg.
At this point, if I test negative, I'm not believing anyone when it comes to testing and being neg.
@hope242 you said "most infectious early" I know that. I'm trying to wind it down to a more exact answer. I know its possible. But there's a difference between possible and highly unlikely. My doctor friend, although not an hiv expert, said that building up a viral load at day 7 that was high enough to infect a person was highly unlikely. Possible, but unlikely. I was wondering if I could get a more informed answer on that.
I know an hiv+ person is infectious for life. My question is on how likely it is to have a viral load at day 7 that is high enough to infect another person. I know its possible. But, is it possible, likely or highly unlikely?
I know an hiv+ person is infectious for life. My question is on how likely it is to have a viral load at day 7 that is high enough to infect another person. I know its possible. But, is it possible, likely or highly unlikely?
Did you ask the Jan12th the same question? Maybe just maybe he could of contracted HIV after your exposure?
The Jan12 guy could have gotten it from another guy. I'm not his only option. But I was on his list of people he possibly could have either infected or gotten it from. He did not say he's sure he got it from me, because he was with other guys.
You do know if your partner becomes infected you can be criminally charged. You can't use the I didn't know from having a previous test before and you are well aware how HIV is transmitted. Start using your head.
@ Teak, can you explain the difference between serun viral load and semen viral load?
I don't have a partner, if I did, I wouldn't have had sex with those guys. Also, I never lied. The guy I think lied was the Jan 5 guy, he still claims he's negative. If he's saying the truth, then I'm likely neg.
Serum viral load is the viral load of the blood. Semen viral load is the viral load of your semen. I have an undetectable serum viral load but I have a semen viral load of 4800.
You didn't have a partner, did you have sex with yourself? Your sex partner was the other person.
How is that significant? Does one build up faster than the other? I'm worried about how fast they can build up, most importantly, if any of those viral loads are typically high by day 7.
Also, if the viral loads where higher than usually early on (day 7), would that also cause antibodies to build up earlier than usual?
Also, if the viral loads where higher than usually early on (day 7), would that also cause antibodies to build up earlier than usual?
@Teak, I thought that by partner you meant boyfriend. As in that I was with those guys and then later on infected my boyfriend. I don't have any other guys I was with during that time. Its just those two guys.
The answer to your Doctor friend about unlikely
The initial infection with HIV generally occurs after transfer of body fluids from an infected person to an uninfected one. The first stage of infection, the primary, or acute infection, is a period of rapid viral replication that immediately follows the individual's exposure to HIV leading to an abundance of virus in the peripheral blood with levels of HIV commonly approaching several million viruses per mL.
The initial infection with HIV generally occurs after transfer of body fluids from an infected person to an uninfected one. The first stage of infection, the primary, or acute infection, is a period of rapid viral replication that immediately follows the individual's exposure to HIV leading to an abundance of virus in the peripheral blood with levels of HIV commonly approaching several million viruses per mL.
What I've found is that my question is one that only a doctor could answer. Online I could only find generalized answers. Like "its possible to infect someone early on, early on people are most infectious." Its also possible for everyone that has unsafe sex to become positive. "Possible" is not really helping. Also, by "most infectious early on" do they mean weeks? months? days? I heard it was 2-3 months when someone is most infectious. That to them could be early on. Its possible to infect someone at day 7. But is it possible or highly unlikely? My main concern is that how likely it is for a viral load to be high enough to infect someone at day 7.
@hope242 Thanks for you reply. you mention a "period of rapid viral replication" is this period within days? How fast does this happen? Since they say to get tested every 6 months. A few weeks, in comparison to 6 months, is a "rapid spread."
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