Please help me!!! Unprotected oral sex

[fear68]

Hi HIV prevention community. Excuse my weak English. I would like to know some information that would help me decide whether I go or not to test. Before 13 days I had a risky situation.
     I had protected vaginal sex with sex worker and unprotected oral sex, consisting of

                                   1) fellatio, I did not see any blood in its mouth on the penis I had no wounds, scratches     or  something similar. I made it into the mouth.
                                
                                  2) Cunnilingus, I licked her clit and outer lips, I certainly did not see or smell menstrual blood. In my mouth, I had no wounds, scars or scratches

Today is day 13 after exposure and I have no symptoms. I feel very guilty, becase I have girl I love. That was my first time i cheated her and I will never do it again. Can I have sex with my baby? I don ´t want to put her life in a risk. Thank you for your comments.

[fear68]

No, of course. But this time JACKPOT=life of my girlfriend. If you were in my skin, would you continue in your life without testing? And the last question. I don´t want show some disrespect to you guys, but is there some another forum on internet where experts or moderators use term ORAL SEX=NO RISK ?

[Teak]

If you are told you didn't win the lottery would you go to the lottery commission and try to collect?

[fear68]

So in your opinion, do i need test or not?

[fear68]

thank you for your answer Teak. And all these studies tell us that there are no risk in oral sex?

[Teak]

Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
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AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117

Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

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[fear68]

Teak, were there some researches supportin the fact that hiv cannot be transmitted this way?

[Teak]

Guilt is all you feel as you were advised, you never had an exposure from oral sex.

[fear68]

Please, someone to answer me. I am scarred like hell, i feel guilty, Do not sleep, do not eat, smokin 30 cigarettes per day. In my head, there is a big mess. i think about quit my life. I´m cryin like a baby now. What if I will be the first one infected through oral sex? Please do not be angry on me.

[fear68]

DR HOOK is always speaking about chance 1:10000 to be infect by oral sex. This estimation is based on some scientific data or it is only some theoretical equation of zero risk in the world where zero not exist?

[fear68]

Are there some symptoms, that really indicate ARS? 13 after this exposure (non-exposure) i feel healthy, i don´t have any problem with my body. I got only problems with my mind

[hui520]

Oral sex are all no risk.
I hope these are really.

[fear68]

Please someone, anyone!

[fear68]

I don ´t have any money. I have put all my trust in you, because you are expert in advicing. Are there some documented cases of via oral sex transmission? And one last thing. When I was giving her cunnilingus I had a little bloody scar, between my mouth and nose. Increase this fact level of my risk or is it risk still zero?

[Teak]

You go into the doctor's forum and pay your money to have them explain it to you if you don't understand.

[fear68]

There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".    


This doesn´t make any sence to me. Meaning of terms "no" and "low" are not the same. Please explain.

[Teak]

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who belive that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA

"The observation on thousand and thousand of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK

[fear68]

I read a lot about oral sex transmission. In opinion of some experts it si only a theoretical risk, in opinion of others the risk si low but still exist. Teak, please, what is the difference between terms "reported cases of oral sex transmission" and "documented cases of oral sex transmission"
  I just try to get so many information as possible. Thanks

[Teak]

You never had an exposure of contracting HIV from oral sex.