very high risk hiv

[notsocleverman]

hi

i want to put my case to a medical pro but they are shut down now....on that forum.
i was stupid. Living in Buenos Aires for two years I never once did anything stupid until this month,
slept with 5 working girls. they are all based in a bar I got mixed up in and work from there.

3 were protected.
1 there was a condom break
and finally the last was no protection (she said it was fine, I was STUPID and drunk enough to believe this).

I went to see her the next day again and ask about all std risks she again reassured me all was fine.

obviously I dont trust her. but I find  it hard to understand how she would work there every night and lie so blatantly.

my questions

1 - anyone any clues on my risks here? I have read so many posts and my mind is a bit boggled wth figures and facts.

2 - next steps? seems to me searching out an incredibly expensive PNR DNA test is not the way to go from reading the forums from the docs. wait it out 4 weeks and take a blood test.

please can anyone give me any thoughts, without judging as I am alone, feeling self hate, guilt and fear.I feel stupid enough. my depression and fear are gettign out of hand over this.

just need to put some practicality to my anxiety.

thanks in advance

[Teak]

No it was not directed to you.

[notsocleverman]

"you dont have HIV"

presumably not directed at me.

it is not helping being in a foreign country. has anyone any knowledge of Bolivia and testing procedures?

[notsocleverman]

thank you for your response
yes, the condom break with the first was a lengthy exposure tho.
conversations with both girls were reassuring (in as much as they can be)
i have been here before years ago. I lost my mind, practically had to be committed. but I have learnt, the risk is LOW. i can choose to believe that or i can choose to ruminate on the chance that I was unlucky. herpes was a concern, but at 2 weeks with no lesions I follow the docs advice and forget it.
HIV.... its just not likely. and I wont consider myself infected. i will not have sex tho, and I will let the duo do the official talking in another 3 weeks.
hope you agree with this?

[nursegirl6572]

So, you had one condom break during vaginal sex, and one episode (with a different CSW) was unprotected completely?  

Overall, your risk isn't significantly high, but it's still a risk nonetheless.

Your plan is good, test at 4 weeks with a DUO (not a rapid test).  Most likely, you'll come out okay.

[Teak]

You don't have HIV.

[Teak]

Ignore kuchkahopeless, he never had an exposure.

[notsocleverman]

thanks man - it does help.

to hear someone talk of their experience with a  little compassion. i will take the duo test at 4 weeks (conclusive according to docs) if I can find one in bolivia...

am only a few days out and am frantic is all. i think it unlikely, really. but test will be the only way to know that.

[kuchkahopeless]

Hi notsocleverman, i got also HiV concern, even though they categorize this as low risk/ even zero risk. But the concern and axienty is there. I took my test at 83 days-it's negative. But, still I have hard time to believe it. My point is that-the only way to know your status is through HiV test: you can choose several types of HiV test with different types of conclusiveness time. This forum believe 3 months ( not so sure on 12 or 13 weeks) as approriate time to get your conclusive result. In the mean time, limit your search only on selected online forum, get bussy with your activities. I hope this helps buddy.

[notsocleverman]

must add to that tho - if they know and do not say; that must be a crime. hard to prove, but one none the less. a controversial issue.

either way, if anyone has ever been in my situation and an offer advice to help y nerves please message me, tell me how it went, or what got you thru.

i know I sound desperate, I am right now, it will calm down, but talking with similar peoples experiences would help.....

[notsocleverman]

thank you Teak.
fully agree

I will be testing for certain. but I must wait four weeks now

just wondering if there was any reason for optimism in the wait.

seems from the docs it is a risk, but a low one.

reading like mad here.

dont know if you agree with that or not.

[Teak]

Not all people will tell you that they are HIV positive, the only way to know your status is by testing.

[notsocleverman]

Thank you for the quick response.
from what I read it is low risk. why would she lie? but then again, she is not a high class CSW either.
i can contact her anytime I need to. bringing her for a test would take soem convincing and would not completely cover her recent activity so there would still be some doubt

if I could just get a handle on the anxiety to do with the risk and hang in there for another 3 weeks. somehow I have to find calm.

if anyone else has thoughts please post...... i dont think I will be sleeping much tonight.

[HowardH]

1) Probably low risk.  Most people tell the truth about HIV, so probably you weren't exposed. The risk of other STDs (gonorrhea, chlamydia, etc) was much higher.

2) Since you're talking with your partner, maybe she will agree to being retested, especially if you offer to pay.  You could go to a clinic together to test for HIV and other STDs.  If negative, you'll both know you weren't exposed.