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LOW CARB or LOW FAT?
Wut is healthier? A low carb diet or a low fat diet? Wuts the diff anyway? I'm a vegetarian, wut diet is best for me to get all the nutrients i need.
Wow... my head hurts now... bunch of BS to really not answer the question that was asked. Want advise on a good diet or health action plan for yourself? See your family doctor...
I prefer low calorie since that's all your limited to and you can consume fats and calories as long as you control the portions
Enough already, you're both closed-minded and ridiculous. I can't believe you both put that much energy into a message board! And then to get your "nest" friends to come and support you was really immature micaela27. Can't you stand on your own two feet? Ughh...I'm so glad this post is over.
hahaha who said you were a teacher? the only reference anyone made to teaching was that this thread is a debate teacher's dream. nobody called YOU a teacher. i see a trend here with not reading things correctly, darling. didn't you take my advice before??
...read for comprehension!!
my opinion on the food pyramid is that it works well as a guide for those who need a visual reference for how to balance a healthy diet. i know i don't think much about the food pyramid on a daily basis, but i have an excellent working knowledge of nutrition and personally don't need to rely on simple, generalized models for healthy eating for myself. the people i counsel in my job, however, are very reliant on the pyramid to teach them how to eat well. these are people who think it's acceptable to feed your toddler a popsicle and a bag of Cheez Doodles for breakfast. i'm not joking. for these people, it's an important tool that i often use to show them how to categorize food into different families and how to look at food individuallly (i.e. a piece of lasagna isn't just "dinner"... it's a carb serving, a meat serving, a dairy serving and a fat serving... and perhaps even a vegetable serving if you're making it saucy enough.) for them, the concept that vegetables should be consumed every day is revolutionary. they don't believe me when i say it's not appopriate to drink whole milk as an adult. they need an easy to understand model for how to balance their food intake and i rely on the FGP to help me achieve that goal.
so yes, i believe the food pyramid can be a valuabe teaching tool. it's not THE only teaching tool i use, but it's a good one to keep on hand, that's for sure!
your definition of high carb is rather skewed, in my opinion. what i (and the vast majority of real nutrition professionals) consider to be normal carbohydrate consumption is a death trap to you (you work in extremes... i wouldn't expect anything more from you than to assume that a well rounded diet is "high carb"). what i'm advocating is a healthy balance of all the macro and micro nutrients, including an appropriate amount of carbohydrates. this amount varies from one person to another, and varies from one day to another, so your request for a simple answer is not something i can give. i don't deal in numbers when it comes to putting a label on the general population. each person's needs are very different and depend on the total calorie count, the daily activity level, the current level of health and the desired health goals. you want me to say 200g a day? not going to happen. if you are keeping your carb consumption to between 40 and 60% of you daily caloric intake, that's appropriate. i'm smarter than dealing in absolutes (like you do) and i don't assume everyone's body needs the same thing.
that's what being a real nutritionist is all about. when you look at a person as having individual needs and requiring specialized diet tailoring, you're starting to get somewhere. when you make blanket statements about entire food groups and gross generalizations, you're getting nowhere and you're going there fast.
your comment that my recommendation to eat fruits, veggies and grains means i advocate a "high carb" diet is laughable at best. of course i'm going to recommend eating fruits, vegetables and grains! do you think i'm completely mentally unhinged? a better question is... . are YOU? i will never back down from my stance that a diet rich in fruits, vegetables and wholesome grains (as well as an appropriate amount of calcium, fat and protein) is an appropriate diet to have. you'd be hard pressed to find a nutrition professional who wouldn't agree with me on that point.
i sincerely hope you find someone to help you rearrange your perspective, because it needs some serious work - starting from the bottom up.
...read for comprehension!!
my opinion on the food pyramid is that it works well as a guide for those who need a visual reference for how to balance a healthy diet. i know i don't think much about the food pyramid on a daily basis, but i have an excellent working knowledge of nutrition and personally don't need to rely on simple, generalized models for healthy eating for myself. the people i counsel in my job, however, are very reliant on the pyramid to teach them how to eat well. these are people who think it's acceptable to feed your toddler a popsicle and a bag of Cheez Doodles for breakfast. i'm not joking. for these people, it's an important tool that i often use to show them how to categorize food into different families and how to look at food individuallly (i.e. a piece of lasagna isn't just "dinner"... it's a carb serving, a meat serving, a dairy serving and a fat serving... and perhaps even a vegetable serving if you're making it saucy enough.) for them, the concept that vegetables should be consumed every day is revolutionary. they don't believe me when i say it's not appopriate to drink whole milk as an adult. they need an easy to understand model for how to balance their food intake and i rely on the FGP to help me achieve that goal.
so yes, i believe the food pyramid can be a valuabe teaching tool. it's not THE only teaching tool i use, but it's a good one to keep on hand, that's for sure!
your definition of high carb is rather skewed, in my opinion. what i (and the vast majority of real nutrition professionals) consider to be normal carbohydrate consumption is a death trap to you (you work in extremes... i wouldn't expect anything more from you than to assume that a well rounded diet is "high carb"). what i'm advocating is a healthy balance of all the macro and micro nutrients, including an appropriate amount of carbohydrates. this amount varies from one person to another, and varies from one day to another, so your request for a simple answer is not something i can give. i don't deal in numbers when it comes to putting a label on the general population. each person's needs are very different and depend on the total calorie count, the daily activity level, the current level of health and the desired health goals. you want me to say 200g a day? not going to happen. if you are keeping your carb consumption to between 40 and 60% of you daily caloric intake, that's appropriate. i'm smarter than dealing in absolutes (like you do) and i don't assume everyone's body needs the same thing.
that's what being a real nutritionist is all about. when you look at a person as having individual needs and requiring specialized diet tailoring, you're starting to get somewhere. when you make blanket statements about entire food groups and gross generalizations, you're getting nowhere and you're going there fast.
your comment that my recommendation to eat fruits, veggies and grains means i advocate a "high carb" diet is laughable at best. of course i'm going to recommend eating fruits, vegetables and grains! do you think i'm completely mentally unhinged? a better question is... . are YOU? i will never back down from my stance that a diet rich in fruits, vegetables and wholesome grains (as well as an appropriate amount of calcium, fat and protein) is an appropriate diet to have. you'd be hard pressed to find a nutrition professional who wouldn't agree with me on that point.
i sincerely hope you find someone to help you rearrange your perspective, because it needs some serious work - starting from the bottom up.
Um, I'm not a teacher, I'm a lawyer. Not sure where the poster above got the idea I was a teacher.
I'd like to hear "micaela's" opinion on the Food Pyramid, since she claims not to be advocating a high-carb diet. Maybe she can show us how it's possible to get all the required nutrients 2,000 calories following the Pyramid. So far, it hasn't been done.
I'd also like to know what level of carbs she feels is optimal. I'd also like to know how she can say she doesn't advocate a high-carb diet at the same time as recommending that folks eat grains, fruits, and veggies.
I'd like also like cites on blood pH "spiraling out of control" on low-carb diets and what that damage has included with respect to low-carb diets. I imagine I'll get the standard "do your own research here" response, but no harm in trying to get her to defend her point of view.
She's the expert, after all.
I'd like to hear "micaela's" opinion on the Food Pyramid, since she claims not to be advocating a high-carb diet. Maybe she can show us how it's possible to get all the required nutrients 2,000 calories following the Pyramid. So far, it hasn't been done.
I'd also like to know what level of carbs she feels is optimal. I'd also like to know how she can say she doesn't advocate a high-carb diet at the same time as recommending that folks eat grains, fruits, and veggies.
I'd like also like cites on blood pH "spiraling out of control" on low-carb diets and what that damage has included with respect to low-carb diets. I imagine I'll get the standard "do your own research here" response, but no harm in trying to get her to defend her point of view.
She's the expert, after all.
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