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drug screen question
I receive 10 325 hydrocodone. I also take Tramadol and neurontin. It is for a condition and spinal stenosis bone spurs in my back and chronic arthritis. Recently I was at my sisters house and have forgotten to bring a pain pill with me. I borrowed one of her percoset that are 10 milligrams. I went to the doctor a couple days later and had to do a random urine drug screening. I am scared to death now. What happens if that percocet shows up? Will they totally take me off of all my pain meds? Are they likely to give me a second chance?this is not a typical thing that I do. I really need to be on my pain meds as I work two jobs and I'm on my feet all the time.any insight on this would be appreciated. Scared to death and worried.thanks for your comments
No judgement here, but if it was a few days later, it might not even show up. It also depends on what kind of drug test it was. For example, was it a dipstick instant read kind, or do they send it out?
I hope she updates what happens with her doctor. I agree narcotics can ruin lives and anyone in pain management should edcate themselves on what can happen. I worked in the courtroom and what I saw scared me. A firefighter who was seriously injured in a fire underwent many surgeries and PT without good results and wound up addicted and robbed a couple of pharmacies. He had a wife and three little kids and went to prison. A judge who had a back injury and wound up addicted and ultimately retired. It's frightenimg. But I think a lot of people enter into a pain managememt rather naively. I don't think doctor's should cut patients off after one incident. I think the whole picture should be looked at, how long have they been a patient, are they normally compliant, what was the situation. I think patients should also be aware of tolerance and hyperalgesia. Hyperalgesia is real but there are people who believe hyperalgesia is always a result of long-term narcotic use for pain and that just isn't true.
Doctors need to talk to their patients about all the risks and need to spell it out verbally and in writing how they want a patient to handle increased pain, losing or theft of a medication, etc.
Doctors need to talk to their patients about all the risks and need to spell it out verbally and in writing how they want a patient to handle increased pain, losing or theft of a medication, etc.
You are one of the "old timers" on this board, and you have a gift to word things nicely. I admire your style.
I know I wrote a harsh response. But opiates can be harsh. When they are misused, they have the power to ruin lives, cause loss and grief, and kill people. I know if I spend about 5 minutes on google, I can find dozens maybe hundreds of such examples of loss, grief, and death, all having started from "just one misused pill."
Conversely, when opiates are used properly, they are a blessing. Opiates/opium/morphine has been used for centuries, maybe thousands of years, bringing relief to those suffering in pain.
When one touches a burner on a stove, it burns like heck and your finger keeps on burning for minutes and hours afterwards. Is that burning harsh? Yes, it is harsh. It's that harshness that teaches us, "No, that is wrong." Of course, harshness can teach us what is right, too, but often gentleness is used to teach what is right.
If the original poster worded their post differently, like this:
"I was over at my sisters, I hurt like the dickens, I was tempted, and took a chance on taking one of her Percocet. I realize now how stupid it was, it was wrong, and I know this even caused my sister to share her meds, which is wrong in of itself. I feel stupid now. What do I do now? How do I demonstrate to my doctor that I know what I did was wrong?"
Then, perhaps, a softer response may have been appropriate.
However, I took a lot of things into account, reading every word of her post. I noticed that the meds weren't really "big dog meds," and maybe, just maybe, she's "at that point" where she might want to give up the whole opiate rigamarole and have her life back!
I would love to hear what happens :-)
I know I wrote a harsh response. But opiates can be harsh. When they are misused, they have the power to ruin lives, cause loss and grief, and kill people. I know if I spend about 5 minutes on google, I can find dozens maybe hundreds of such examples of loss, grief, and death, all having started from "just one misused pill."
Conversely, when opiates are used properly, they are a blessing. Opiates/opium/morphine has been used for centuries, maybe thousands of years, bringing relief to those suffering in pain.
When one touches a burner on a stove, it burns like heck and your finger keeps on burning for minutes and hours afterwards. Is that burning harsh? Yes, it is harsh. It's that harshness that teaches us, "No, that is wrong." Of course, harshness can teach us what is right, too, but often gentleness is used to teach what is right.
If the original poster worded their post differently, like this:
"I was over at my sisters, I hurt like the dickens, I was tempted, and took a chance on taking one of her Percocet. I realize now how stupid it was, it was wrong, and I know this even caused my sister to share her meds, which is wrong in of itself. I feel stupid now. What do I do now? How do I demonstrate to my doctor that I know what I did was wrong?"
Then, perhaps, a softer response may have been appropriate.
However, I took a lot of things into account, reading every word of her post. I noticed that the meds weren't really "big dog meds," and maybe, just maybe, she's "at that point" where she might want to give up the whole opiate rigamarole and have her life back!
I would love to hear what happens :-)
Wow. Harsh. I am going to try to not judge and take what you say at face value. I'm a long time pain management patient who uses many methods to try to manage my pain. As you probably realize now, it is never a good idea to break your contract. If a situation arises, you need to call your doctor and ask how they want you to handle it.
Your doctor may drop you and cut you off your meds immediately. Some won't even discuss things with you. Others may give you a 30-day supply of your meds to hold you while you search for a new doctor. It may be difficult or even impossible to find a new doctor under these circumstances. He may put more restrictions in place, like more drug screening, only giving you a week's worth of meds at a time, etc. Your relationship with your doctor also may play into it. How long have you been his patient? Have you ever had any other issues, like calling for early refills, losing scripts, etc?
Keep us posted as to what's happeng.
Your doctor may drop you and cut you off your meds immediately. Some won't even discuss things with you. Others may give you a 30-day supply of your meds to hold you while you search for a new doctor. It may be difficult or even impossible to find a new doctor under these circumstances. He may put more restrictions in place, like more drug screening, only giving you a week's worth of meds at a time, etc. Your relationship with your doctor also may play into it. How long have you been his patient? Have you ever had any other issues, like calling for early refills, losing scripts, etc?
Keep us posted as to what's happeng.
No sympathy from me! You goofed up!
I read these posts very carefully. Words you choose really tell it all. You are not even fully owning up to what you did. You said you "borrowed" a narc.
And, I don't believe you were in enough pain anyway. You made it to your sister's house just fine. And you "forgot" to bring a pain pill?
I think you went to your sister's, and wanted to try her Percocet!
I call BS.
As far as what your doctor will do? Who knows. Maybe your doc will take away all your narcs, and you will go through some withdrawals symptoms, and then you will have a happier, better life without being so dependent on opiates.
Yes, I am not showing a lot of sympathy. Your sister is probably giving you lots of sympathy.
I read these posts very carefully. Words you choose really tell it all. You are not even fully owning up to what you did. You said you "borrowed" a narc.
And, I don't believe you were in enough pain anyway. You made it to your sister's house just fine. And you "forgot" to bring a pain pill?
I think you went to your sister's, and wanted to try her Percocet!
I call BS.
As far as what your doctor will do? Who knows. Maybe your doc will take away all your narcs, and you will go through some withdrawals symptoms, and then you will have a happier, better life without being so dependent on opiates.
Yes, I am not showing a lot of sympathy. Your sister is probably giving you lots of sympathy.
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