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The PATM Cure is Here -- Part II
Hi guys -- hope your autumn/fall is going well, and you're ready for the holidays!
Some time ago I wrote a post called "The PATM Cure is Here." In the post, I wrote about how I had been suffering from PATM for a few years, but at a certain point I stopped seeing reactions when I tried two main things: saccharomyces boulardii (which helps fight candida) and brown rice protein powder (which heals leaky gut). The post got a lot of responses, and in later years a few people gave testimonials about how brown rice protein powder greatly reduced their reactions.
Well, unfortunately, this past spring I started seeing some reactions again. I think it might have been due to an antibiotic I took, which may have affected my gut lining (it doesn't surprise me, as I blame an antibiotic for my first battle with PATM). Anyway, it really stressed me out, as I didn't want to have to through all this again. I tried out several new supplements, and none of them really worked. Then I tried out something else. Reishi 415.
My friends -- I believe this is what we've been looking for.
A week after I started taking it, my reactions decreased again. Another week later, and they were gone. And a few months later, they haven't returned. They are gone -- completely. I don't like to use the word "cure," but I feel very strongly that this supplement may be it. Here's why:
Reishi addresses the two main issues that I believe are responsible for our condition: candida and leaky gut. It does so by busting through the biofilms that surround candida and healing inflammation around the gut. Because it tackles both of these problems, it is more powerful than just taking supplements for candida or leaky gut alone.
I know there may be concerns that it is a mushroom (and thus a fungi), but it is what you call a "medicinal mushroom." Instead of feeding candida it competes with it for space, and also has anti-microbial properties. So it's one of the safe ones. The only thing you have to be careful of is if you are taking blood-thinning medications like warfarin (Coumadin and Jantoven) because it also has anti-coagulant properties. You may have to avoid it in that case. Also, a website says that if you are an organ transplant recipient or are on immunosuppressive therapy, you should consult your doctor first before taking it.
Now here's the important thing. You can't just buy any reishi supplement. Most of the ones on the market do not contain the actual mushroom -- instead, they contain a mushroom substitute called "mycelium." Mycelium is not as strong as the real thing. There is only one brand I've come across that I believe gets the job done. It's called Reishi 415, and it is manufactured by a company called Real Mushrooms in Canada. They import their mushrooms directly from China (where reishi has been used to heal a variety of conditions for centuries). I cannot emphasize this enough: IF YOU BUY ANY OTHER BRAND THIS MAY NOT WORK.
I've found three websites you can buy the product:
*Amazon
*The Real Mushrooms website
*A website for a company called Well Pet Dispensary, based in Colorado
Unfortunately, as of now the product is not sold in any physical retail stores.
HERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT THINGS TO NOTE:
*Buy the capsule version (90 capsules) and not the powder one. The capsules absorb better.
*Take 2 capsules a day (at same time)
*Take the capsules on an empty stomach -- preferably when you first get up in the morning. If you do eat food, try not to take it until 1 or 2 hours later, when your stomach is more free.
*It would be a good idea to take a Vitamin C tablet at the same time. They help the reishi absorb better. I take Vitamin C 1000 myself. No one's forcing you to do it, but don't you want to give yourself the best shot?
*Avoid sugar as much as possible while taking it. Again, don't you want to give yourself the best shot?
I am already anticipating some questions, so I'll answer a few upfront:
*While I was taking Reishi 415, I did not consume any sugar or added sugar products (cookies, cakes, etc.). I basically followed the candida diet: eggs/bread/tea (with stevia) in the morning; a sandwich for lunch (usually chicken or turkey); and chicken/turkey for dinner with rice (brown or white) and cucumbers/lettuce/tomatoes on the side. I still largely follow that diet now as I think it is healthy, but I can eat sweet stuff occasionally and still have no problems.
*As for other supplements I took while I first started taking Reishi 415: they included Calcium-Vitamin D, saccharomyces boulardii , and kombucha capsules. They did not have anything to do with reducing my reactions, I just took them for general health/other stuff. I still take them. I haven't been taking the brown rice powder anymore.
*I still take the Reishi 415 as I know it can take a long time to fully heal leaky gut. I don't know if I'll ever stop at any point, but I don't think my reactions would come back if I did, because I've been taking it for a few months.
If you want information discussing what I've said about reishi, Google the following articles (in quotes):
"Immune Boosters: Red Reishi" (on The Candida Diet website)
"Is Reishi Mushroom Good for Candida" (on the Yeast Infection website)
"Reishi mushroom and Candida" (on the Fungi Health website)
"Reishi mushrooms fight yeast infections " (on the Nutrition Healing website)
I know people may be skeptical, but give it a try first. At least two weeks. I wouldn't have created this whole new post if I didn't feel confident about this. Good luck!
Some time ago I wrote a post called "The PATM Cure is Here." In the post, I wrote about how I had been suffering from PATM for a few years, but at a certain point I stopped seeing reactions when I tried two main things: saccharomyces boulardii (which helps fight candida) and brown rice protein powder (which heals leaky gut). The post got a lot of responses, and in later years a few people gave testimonials about how brown rice protein powder greatly reduced their reactions.
Well, unfortunately, this past spring I started seeing some reactions again. I think it might have been due to an antibiotic I took, which may have affected my gut lining (it doesn't surprise me, as I blame an antibiotic for my first battle with PATM). Anyway, it really stressed me out, as I didn't want to have to through all this again. I tried out several new supplements, and none of them really worked. Then I tried out something else. Reishi 415.
My friends -- I believe this is what we've been looking for.
A week after I started taking it, my reactions decreased again. Another week later, and they were gone. And a few months later, they haven't returned. They are gone -- completely. I don't like to use the word "cure," but I feel very strongly that this supplement may be it. Here's why:
Reishi addresses the two main issues that I believe are responsible for our condition: candida and leaky gut. It does so by busting through the biofilms that surround candida and healing inflammation around the gut. Because it tackles both of these problems, it is more powerful than just taking supplements for candida or leaky gut alone.
I know there may be concerns that it is a mushroom (and thus a fungi), but it is what you call a "medicinal mushroom." Instead of feeding candida it competes with it for space, and also has anti-microbial properties. So it's one of the safe ones. The only thing you have to be careful of is if you are taking blood-thinning medications like warfarin (Coumadin and Jantoven) because it also has anti-coagulant properties. You may have to avoid it in that case. Also, a website says that if you are an organ transplant recipient or are on immunosuppressive therapy, you should consult your doctor first before taking it.
Now here's the important thing. You can't just buy any reishi supplement. Most of the ones on the market do not contain the actual mushroom -- instead, they contain a mushroom substitute called "mycelium." Mycelium is not as strong as the real thing. There is only one brand I've come across that I believe gets the job done. It's called Reishi 415, and it is manufactured by a company called Real Mushrooms in Canada. They import their mushrooms directly from China (where reishi has been used to heal a variety of conditions for centuries). I cannot emphasize this enough: IF YOU BUY ANY OTHER BRAND THIS MAY NOT WORK.
I've found three websites you can buy the product:
*Amazon
*The Real Mushrooms website
*A website for a company called Well Pet Dispensary, based in Colorado
Unfortunately, as of now the product is not sold in any physical retail stores.
HERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT THINGS TO NOTE:
*Buy the capsule version (90 capsules) and not the powder one. The capsules absorb better.
*Take 2 capsules a day (at same time)
*Take the capsules on an empty stomach -- preferably when you first get up in the morning. If you do eat food, try not to take it until 1 or 2 hours later, when your stomach is more free.
*It would be a good idea to take a Vitamin C tablet at the same time. They help the reishi absorb better. I take Vitamin C 1000 myself. No one's forcing you to do it, but don't you want to give yourself the best shot?
*Avoid sugar as much as possible while taking it. Again, don't you want to give yourself the best shot?
I am already anticipating some questions, so I'll answer a few upfront:
*While I was taking Reishi 415, I did not consume any sugar or added sugar products (cookies, cakes, etc.). I basically followed the candida diet: eggs/bread/tea (with stevia) in the morning; a sandwich for lunch (usually chicken or turkey); and chicken/turkey for dinner with rice (brown or white) and cucumbers/lettuce/tomatoes on the side. I still largely follow that diet now as I think it is healthy, but I can eat sweet stuff occasionally and still have no problems.
*As for other supplements I took while I first started taking Reishi 415: they included Calcium-Vitamin D, saccharomyces boulardii , and kombucha capsules. They did not have anything to do with reducing my reactions, I just took them for general health/other stuff. I still take them. I haven't been taking the brown rice powder anymore.
*I still take the Reishi 415 as I know it can take a long time to fully heal leaky gut. I don't know if I'll ever stop at any point, but I don't think my reactions would come back if I did, because I've been taking it for a few months.
If you want information discussing what I've said about reishi, Google the following articles (in quotes):
"Immune Boosters: Red Reishi" (on The Candida Diet website)
"Is Reishi Mushroom Good for Candida" (on the Yeast Infection website)
"Reishi mushroom and Candida" (on the Fungi Health website)
"Reishi mushrooms fight yeast infections " (on the Nutrition Healing website)
I know people may be skeptical, but give it a try first. At least two weeks. I wouldn't have created this whole new post if I didn't feel confident about this. Good luck!
Correct product from amazon -Organic Reishi Mushroom Extract by Real Mushrooms - 90 Capsules - Ganoderma Lucidum/Ling Zhi - Immune Booster
Sorry to bother. Want to make sure this is correct! =]
Sorry to bother. Want to make sure this is correct! =]
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Hi PATMisruiningmylife, thanks! And thank you for sharing your story. I think a lot of people on here were sociable before they got hit with PATM. It's amazing how a condition that makes you isolated can make you feel worse than a condition that causes you physical pain. As humans, we are social animals so this feels unnatural.
Thanks for sharing the coconut oil thing. I'm sure some people here will give it a try. And yes, that is the correct name for the product, though the shorter name is Reishi 415.
Thanks for sharing the coconut oil thing. I'm sure some people here will give it a try. And yes, that is the correct name for the product, though the shorter name is Reishi 415.
What you are doing is great Hopeful12345. The fact that doctors cant help us is complete ********. Its sad this disease. So many cases. How has nothing been done to help the people who suffer? Its so embarrassing at work. Im usually a bubbly lovable person..but I can feel tension..because I make people itch. I seem to affect males more than the females. Like you I make others itch their nose or back of their head. Looking forward to seeing other peoples experiences using this reishi 415....as if I don't find a cure soon, I'm going to go insane. Perfectly normal person, now on the verge of going AWOL. I need this to work :(. Doctors friends and family don't believe me...and this is very real :( This is the toughest thing Ive ever dealt with. Just typing this I'm tearing up. I hate this.
hopeful12345, thank you for your sharing experience and the time that you have take to provide us all other with this information. Very many thanks from me. I've just recieved my reishi 415. Whats your dosage on the 1000mg pills? Also I think I have TMAU is kombucha the only remedy for this? Thank you for you answer.
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Hey MrPatm, no problem! For the Vitamin C 1000 I just take one tablet a day (along with 2 Reishi capsules, but you can try 4 Reishi if you are not seeing anything). I have tried dozens of supplements for TMAU and kombucha was the only one that effectively suppressed the odor.
I also tried mine but my reactons seems to gotten worse. How long do you need to take it and what kind of diet should you keep ?
Hi MrPatm
funny that you mention "I also tried mine but my reactons seems to gotten worse." I have the same issue as you, people that used to be "immune" to me that I've been close to coughed non stop last time I interacted with them (for many hours and both in/outdoors). Hoping the reactions will go down at some point.
This happened the first 2 days, have stayed isolated since, looking forward on seeing Reishi long term if it helps if this is just mass extinction of candida or whatever is behind PATM that causes lots of stuff to be released at once.
funny that you mention "I also tried mine but my reactons seems to gotten worse." I have the same issue as you, people that used to be "immune" to me that I've been close to coughed non stop last time I interacted with them (for many hours and both in/outdoors). Hoping the reactions will go down at some point.
This happened the first 2 days, have stayed isolated since, looking forward on seeing Reishi long term if it helps if this is just mass extinction of candida or whatever is behind PATM that causes lots of stuff to be released at once.
MrPatm, it was about 10-12 days before I started seeing fewer reactions. You should see how things are around then. If reactions still keep getting worse/not changing after three weeks, it probably doesn't work for you and you should consider not taking it anymore.
As for diet, I believe I described it at beginning of this post.
Do you accompany this with probiotics? I read your post about brown rice powder and sacc. boull. (i've been taking the sacc. Boullardi pills for 3 days now), how long did that last before you were cured and how long were you cured until this spring?
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I took sacc boull with it and still take it now. I think I took it with the brown rice protein for a few months before not seeing any more reactions. It lasted for about two years before this spring.
Hi Hopeful12345: what kind of brown rice powder did you use?
Hey miriam_1986 -- it was Jarrow Formulas, the vanilla flavor.
@zetti how z the things.. any positive feedback on reshi mashroom
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It's working. I only get slight reactions from people if I drink coffee, but nothing like before.
Good to hear that.. mine is arrived yesterday and it’s my second day of Reishi.. i don feel any difference... I am hoping for positive results
Be patient, you should start seeing a difference soon enough. Hopeful gave some good advice about what to eat when you first start taking the Reishi. Try to avoid sugar as much as possible and let the vitamins get an opportunity to really get into your system. Post about any changes you see here, because I'm curious as to how other's are doing on it.
I completely remove sugar from my daily routine. Finger crossed, hope reshi wil make a miracle.
@zetti- how z things. Reishi is not effective on me as you said.. already 2 weeks and I am not feel any difference. Should I increase the dosage.. what say?
Are people still reacting around you? Hopeful said that it's safe to increase the dosage. It wouldn't hurt to give it a try. As for me I'm getting very little reaction from people. So far it's working for me.
I don’t see any difference, reactions are same as before. Do you take any other supplement with it. when you take the tablet? First thing in morning, empty stomach??
Johny_help, sorry you are not seeing a change. That said, different supplements may work differently with different people. That's the way it is with all of them.
Did you read my original post fully? If so, you would have seen that I said that it is a good idea to take Vitamin C at the same time as the reishi (Vitamin C 1,000 if possible). Also, it is best to take it on an empty stomach. Also, that it is safe to take four capsules at a time (so if you are only taking two, try increasing the dosage).
Did you read my original post fully? If so, you would have seen that I said that it is a good idea to take Vitamin C at the same time as the reishi (Vitamin C 1,000 if possible). Also, it is best to take it on an empty stomach. Also, that it is safe to take four capsules at a time (so if you are only taking two, try increasing the dosage).
I haven’t seen a difference after taking the relishi
Johny_help, I wasn't taking anything when I took the Reishi pill. I recently started taking Digestive Advantage probiotic, because I mentioned before that I get some reactions when I drink coffee. I also take One a Day vitamins to help out. I'm not sure if it's that you and I have different diets or what (to be honest I've have been too self-disciplined with my diet lately), but there has to be something one of us is doing/ not doing which is making the difference. I can honestly say that I'm not cured, but I'm doing a he'll of a lot better than I have been in years.
@ zetti- I increase the dosage to 4 pills a day but no improvement in my case. What type of diet you follow, let me know.
Hopeful12345- yes true I understand, past 4 years I don no how many supplements I took, room full of supplements. Still I not cure from this nightmare. In my case there is no odor only allergic reaction.
It’s very hard to sit in a crowdy workplace
It’s very hard to sit in a crowdy workplace
Hopeful12345- yes true I understand, past 4 years I don no how many supplements I took, room full of supplements. Still I not cure from this nightmare. In my case there is no odor only allergic reaction.
It’s very hard to sit in a crowdy workplace
It’s very hard to sit in a crowdy workplace
hello, is there anybody who got positive results with reshi or its just a hype
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I started taking it a few days ago and the reactions have definitely diminished. People aren't coughing or sneezing like they usually do. Hopeful is dead on with his advice. The only way you'll know for yourself is to order yourself some and see the results after taking it. I think that you'll be surprised like I was and still am.
Zetti, How many pills do you take and when?
I take two pills in the morning. I took four pills once to see what would happen and I kid you not, I noticed a reduction in people's reactions the same day. This stuff works fast. I wouldn't recommend it unless it really did work and I'm thankful that Hopeful was kind enough to share this with everyone.
Thank you for valuable opinion.
I get a reaction even when I wear a brand new clothes, I think that this will work.
Although each person, I think that there is no doubt that there is basically a problem in the intestines.
I suffer from mild hyperhidrosis, but most hyperhidrosis patients do not smell ...
I am looking forward to receiving this item.
By the way, do you smell and point out by others, are there any odds of body odor even if you improve your eating habits etc?
I don't think it's actually a body odor that we are emitting. Some Japanese doctors did testing on a female school teacher who has patm and they found that she is emitting some type of skin gas that irrataes people. It causes them to cough, sneeze, and itch. All people have what we have, but only in small doses. For some reason we have elevated levels and the doctors are baffled as to why. Somehow they are getting her skin gas levels down to where they are manageable. You can read more about if you Google Japanese study of patm. To answer your question, no, it's not that we smell, but that we iterate them like an allergy. Just my two cents. I also know that our gut and immune system also play a role in our condition. I hope that helps even though it's not a complete answer.
I don't think it's actually a body odor that we are emitting. Some Japanese doctors did testing on a female school teacher who has patm and they found that she is emitting some type of skin gas that irrataes people. It causes them to cough, sneeze, and itch. All people have what we have, but only in small doses. For some reason we have elevated levels and the doctors are baffled as to why. Somehow they are getting her skin gas levels down to where they are manageable. You can read more about if you Google Japanese study of patm. To answer your question, no, it's not that we smell, but that we iterate them like an allergy. Just my two cents. I also know that our gut and immune system also play a role in our condition. I hope that helps even though it's not a complete answer.
Hey ida0102, if you are suffering from body odor, you might also have TMAU (a metabolic disorder that I also got around the same time as PATM). For that, I recommend you take kombucha capsules. The best one is RAW Kombucha by Garden of Life (available on Amazon and the Garden of Life website), but you can also try the Pro Natura brand (also available at Amazon and Vitamin Shoppe). Kombucha helps suppress the odor so people cannot smell it.
MrHopeful
Thank you as always.
I was troubled about TMAU and made dietary restrictions and urinalysis at a Japanese university.
But the result is negative.
I have never been told that there is a smell of ammonia like a fish.
But I will also drink kelp tea together, thank you!
Thank you as always.
I was troubled about TMAU and made dietary restrictions and urinalysis at a Japanese university.
But the result is negative.
I have never been told that there is a smell of ammonia like a fish.
But I will also drink kelp tea together, thank you!
I'm not sure those tests are always accurate. That said, good luck!
Mr.hopful
Thank you.
I also wonder whether the result of the exam is accurate, so after trying reishi I will do the same dietary restrictions as TMAU!
I will also test as soon as it arrives! Thank you very much!!
Thank you.
I also wonder whether the result of the exam is accurate, so after trying reishi I will do the same dietary restrictions as TMAU!
I will also test as soon as it arrives! Thank you very much!!
I received my pills yesterday finally, i took one before bed and then 2 in the morning on a empty stomach And im a little bit in chock.. i went to the store for grocery shopping just to check for (reactions lol)... And i Saw nothing, no ugly stares or sniffles, coughing or scratching face,nose etc. And the rest of the day pretty much same.. When i came to work later my colleague did not react the way he usually do, pretty normal overall.. Damn i really hope it stays like this now , i was so happy can you imagine ? After having this curse for more then 10 years, But i feel like i just got a "lucky" day.... Cheers
Great to hear, PATMmm!! Glad you got a break from the reactions. Of course, you should wait until 7-10 days or so to ensure it is enduring. Good luck!
Zetti how about the itching?
Reading all of these post is giving me hope. I'm getting emotional man. Thank you so much hopeful. I swear to you man to man. If this works for me. I will try to send you some cash for the holidays and the help. God bless your soul. PATMM keep us updated on your status. I just ordered my pills from amazon Organic Reishi Mushroom Extract by Real Mushrooms - 90 Capsules - Ganoderma Lucidum/Ling Zhi - Immune Booster. I will be updating my results.
No need to send any money, PATMisruiningmylife -- use it to buy gifts for your family instead : )
Thanks hopeful. I got my bottle today. My dad dropped it off at work in the middle of my shift. I popped 3 of them on a pretty empty stomach. The reactions seem to get worse. Really hoping after a week things start to turn positive. I cant live with this ****. Driving me ******* insane. I want my normal life back =[. More updates to come.
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