female "full release" by male massage therapist

[lonnie736]

why is it cheating to get a sexually arousing massage? the two people don't have a relationship, are not involved, and may never see each other again. if a woman gets the "full release" treatment, is that cheating? men would say no, women would say yes. women goto these parlors in new york city and other cities and have men provide them "happy endings." i would argue there's nothing wrong with this and that a husband wouldn't mind if his wife went to one of these establishments either.

[specialmom]

El, I have to say that I agree with you.  I do not see looking at porn, masturbation or fanticizing about another person as cheating.  I also don't think it is cheating to receive sexual contact from a massage therapist if it is something that you and your significant other have agreed is alright to do.  What I was disagreeing with you on is that your examples were the same as what the OP suggested.  
Most relationships traditionally would find that to be crossing the line.  Male and female alike.  Making it a guy/girl thing in my mind does not really belong in the discussion either.  
One can give this an okay in their relationship and then it isn't cheating.  But I think many a partner would have a hard time selling the idea that they did not cheat if this happened when explaining it to their signficant other.  

[specialmom]

Here is my question Lonnie------------  do you work in a massage therapy office?  Or do you frequent one?  As in-------- do you give it or take it?  

I'm sorry if my husband had physical contact with another woman, it would be cheating in our marriage.  Intercourse is not the only thing that qualifies.  Regardless if it is a male or female.  My husband feels the same.

[Jaybay]

ROFL!  Women are more "non-physical" than men?  Son, you have a lot to learn...

[lonnie736]

what i love about this subject is that it points out the flaws in relationships, and the insecurities based upon purely "physical," "superficial," conditions--keep in mind, this is all touching one or another "physically," nothing "metaphysical" about it, thus all "lower pleasures," it's the higher pleasures we, as a species, are so famous for. yet humans get so bent out of shape about these lower pleasure issues (especially women, it appears, who are, arguably more "emotive," or "non-physical" than men--which poses a paradox. suddenly women are more motivated by physical occurances than men)...this behavior is all a byproduct of our need to procreate and yet we ascribe so much more, more internal "emotional" feelings, and can feel abandoned by--or cheated upon by--others when we violate an assumption that those procreative urges ought to be preserved for one person or another. very interesting. the common denominator is pleasure/nature/instinct, not distrust or abuse of a contract between two people. it's really never intended to hurt anyone yet the other one feels somehow wronged--I can't quite put a finger on why this is....seemingly, the only real instance of where the line justifiably should be drawn is re: true sexual intercourse, unless (as others have posited) predetermined openness has been agreed to between both parties. the rest is relative and should be considered with conditions unlike strict adherence to a rule, as in actual intercourse. just my thoughts. ;)

[el_em_en_oh]

The question is... did Uma wash HER hand immediately after shaking YOUR hand!

[brice1967]

On a side note completely concerning Uma Thurman.  When I was in the bar business... Uma Thurman and Greta Gaines (Olympic skier and wild woman) were hanging out in the club for a week or so.  A couple of nights after I met them both... the wife and I go to dinner in one of the towns nicest places.  As we walk in Uma Thurman and Grata Gaines both said "HI Brice"...... my wife looks at them then looked at me with a puzzled look.  She then said..."That's Uma Thurman!"  I then replied "Yup and her friend Greta".  

Apparently my wife was unfamiliar with "my kind of celebrity" and said.... "How does Uma Thurman and Greta Gaines know you?".  I just chuckled and said "This is me Baby".  LOL

P.S.  Uma shook my hand when I introduced myself.... didn't wash the thing for 2 weeks!