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Diet with Hashimoto Disease
Please I would like some advise on how to control my weight. I have Hashimoto Disease a thyroid disorder. I seemed to grow regularly taking it off is something else. At 54 it isn't getting easier ..*smile*..
Four days a week my husband and I do the basic Pilate stretching exercise for 40 minutes. We also just started walking around the reservoir 4 times a week about a 2 to 2.5 walk. When not able to walk around the reservoir I walk on my walker for 20 minutes a good pace.
Food wise, we really eat healthy. Morning we have oatmeal with raisin and cinnamon with milk we do not add sugar or honey. We share a apple and a bannana and we have a tad of cottage cheese on a half tomatoe. Lunch we usually have a sandwich mostly peanut butter n jelly sometimes tuna etc. At night we mostly have a nice fresh salad and our meat dish. Meat us usually baked in the oven on racks or bar-b-que. I rarely go for seconds, we eat off the small dinner plates I think some call them salad plates anyway they are not the saucer size. I've been thinking maybe I should start eating off a saucer.
I drink lots of water.
Soda Pops, chips, cookies, candies, pie or cake as a whole I do not keep in the house on a regular basis.
At night I usually get a sweet tooth ..sigh.. I usually have a half a apple and some dates.
Any advice on how to keep my weight down?
Four days a week my husband and I do the basic Pilate stretching exercise for 40 minutes. We also just started walking around the reservoir 4 times a week about a 2 to 2.5 walk. When not able to walk around the reservoir I walk on my walker for 20 minutes a good pace.
Food wise, we really eat healthy. Morning we have oatmeal with raisin and cinnamon with milk we do not add sugar or honey. We share a apple and a bannana and we have a tad of cottage cheese on a half tomatoe. Lunch we usually have a sandwich mostly peanut butter n jelly sometimes tuna etc. At night we mostly have a nice fresh salad and our meat dish. Meat us usually baked in the oven on racks or bar-b-que. I rarely go for seconds, we eat off the small dinner plates I think some call them salad plates anyway they are not the saucer size. I've been thinking maybe I should start eating off a saucer.
I drink lots of water.
Soda Pops, chips, cookies, candies, pie or cake as a whole I do not keep in the house on a regular basis.
At night I usually get a sweet tooth ..sigh.. I usually have a half a apple and some dates.
Any advice on how to keep my weight down?
I speak from experience. I have Hashi's, and I was g/f for almost a year, scrupulously so. My thyroid condition has been stable and nicely controlled on meds for several years now. It was MY experience that a g/f diet did nothing for my antibody count or my symptoms (which were non-existent when I went g/f). BTW, I went g/f for reasons other than thyroid. For me, g/f was not a positive experience. It contributed to other g/i issues that I developed after being on the g/f diet for a while.
I don't think it's "bickering" to present a case that differs from your experience. You present your "case study" and I present mine. People reading this thread can then make more of an informed decision on whether of not they want to try
g/f.
You are obviously in the health care business, and I'm sure that due to professional courtesy, you have not paid a dime for your treatment. For the vast majority of people, this is an expensive protocol and often not covered by insurance.
I have read the study from the Journal of Digestive Diseases and Sciences. All that particular study determined was that once you have an autoimmune disease, you are more likely than the general population to develop a second, etc. We've known this for years. We'd expect more people with Hashi's to also have celiac, lupus, RA, PA, etc.
If you have celiac, this is a no-brainer...you have to be scrupulously g/f for the rest of your life. Let me also say, that if you feel better g/f, then I am all for it. I only have a problem with g/f as it applies to Hashi's. "...EVERYONE who has been diagnosed with this disease (Hashi's - my clarification) IS sensitive whether they test positive or not." Certainly, the JDDS study didn't even address this issue...it dealt only with people with both Hashi's and celiac. Beyond that, the authors "felt" that a g/f diet would eliminate antibodies. That's a pretty lukewarm endorsement. It seems to me that in the 10+ years since that study was published that the "feeling" could have been solidified with more research. Furthermore, the statement is obviously unture...a g/f diet did nothing to help me feel in any way better, so I am proof that "everyone" is not sensitive.
"...and just saying all this bc it helped me, Ive seen so many others it has helped, and if someone else were to get the information from my post and it helped them, well... thats what all this is for right??? As with everything else in medicine (life), there are differing opinions. I think what "this is for" (the forum) is to help people make an informed decision, make them aware of controversies within the medical community and help them navigate the medical community to feel the very best they can. We all arrive at that differently and a miriad of factors influence what works for each of us. Very little applies to "everyone".
I don't think it's "bickering" to present a case that differs from your experience. You present your "case study" and I present mine. People reading this thread can then make more of an informed decision on whether of not they want to try
g/f.
You are obviously in the health care business, and I'm sure that due to professional courtesy, you have not paid a dime for your treatment. For the vast majority of people, this is an expensive protocol and often not covered by insurance.
I have read the study from the Journal of Digestive Diseases and Sciences. All that particular study determined was that once you have an autoimmune disease, you are more likely than the general population to develop a second, etc. We've known this for years. We'd expect more people with Hashi's to also have celiac, lupus, RA, PA, etc.
If you have celiac, this is a no-brainer...you have to be scrupulously g/f for the rest of your life. Let me also say, that if you feel better g/f, then I am all for it. I only have a problem with g/f as it applies to Hashi's. "...EVERYONE who has been diagnosed with this disease (Hashi's - my clarification) IS sensitive whether they test positive or not." Certainly, the JDDS study didn't even address this issue...it dealt only with people with both Hashi's and celiac. Beyond that, the authors "felt" that a g/f diet would eliminate antibodies. That's a pretty lukewarm endorsement. It seems to me that in the 10+ years since that study was published that the "feeling" could have been solidified with more research. Furthermore, the statement is obviously unture...a g/f diet did nothing to help me feel in any way better, so I am proof that "everyone" is not sensitive.
"...and just saying all this bc it helped me, Ive seen so many others it has helped, and if someone else were to get the information from my post and it helped them, well... thats what all this is for right??? As with everything else in medicine (life), there are differing opinions. I think what "this is for" (the forum) is to help people make an informed decision, make them aware of controversies within the medical community and help them navigate the medical community to feel the very best they can. We all arrive at that differently and a miriad of factors influence what works for each of us. Very little applies to "everyone".
and just saying all this bc it helped me, Ive seen so many others it has helped, and if someone else were to get the information from my post and it helped them, well... thats what all this is for right??? Not everyone is going to be like the next, so good luck to the both of you, hope it all works out!
Here we go... see this is why I posted in the first place... obviously Im not more than welcome to my aopinion and neither was anyone else. I'm not posting to bicker... I was trying to find information on my disease, I have been going to N.M.D;s, physicians, endocrinologists, etc. I found this site looking up information, as I began reading, here are these people writing their opinions talking about what has helped them, what their doctors have suggested etc.. and I saw one main person attacking every opinon posted bc it wasnt what they believed... which is what I would expect to have done to me, but it was just extremely frustrating to read these constant "knock downs" of others opinions... I HAVE gone gluten free by the way (and I dont have celiac disease either). It helped wonderfully for me as every other patient that comes through my clinic and along with my naturopathic physician, and friends. I noticed and extreme difference in the way I felt and after 3 months of going gluten free and taking ashwagandha and selenium my antibodies have become pretty much non-existant. My RT3 levels have dropped, I have tons more energy, I have lost weight, and I feel 100%. & P.S.... I did g/f all for free, I haven't paid a dime out to anyone, so this is not marketing or politics... its medical! and also, look to the journal of Digestive Diseases... bc everything that I put quotations around came straight from that journal, along with the National Library of Medicine, so go argue with them about science and research!
Sorry if you think it's "defensive" to reply to others with a differing opinion.
We have been through this topic extensively on the thyroid forum, and my personal opinion is that a very savvy marketer is trying to take advantage of desperate patients and making big bucks in the process.
All of this g/f diet benefitting Hashi's is in the realm of theory, not science. I think it's important for everyone to realize that.
I'm open to the theory if there's anything behind it. So far, not one proponent of the theory, including the theorist himself, has given me an iota of science to go on. Yes, please, cite references...I'll read them.
You're "stuck in the middle" of our arguments because this is a controversial topic. Would you prefer we let you think that opinion is fact?
We have been through this topic extensively on the thyroid forum, and my personal opinion is that a very savvy marketer is trying to take advantage of desperate patients and making big bucks in the process.
All of this g/f diet benefitting Hashi's is in the realm of theory, not science. I think it's important for everyone to realize that.
I'm open to the theory if there's anything behind it. So far, not one proponent of the theory, including the theorist himself, has given me an iota of science to go on. Yes, please, cite references...I'll read them.
You're "stuck in the middle" of our arguments because this is a controversial topic. Would you prefer we let you think that opinion is fact?
Why is it that you people get so defensive? Jut let people give their opinions without attacking others. There is no reason to start replying others just because you disagree, you had your chance to writte your opinion then let others writte theirs. This is just ridiculous when people like me are trying to find information and then we just get stuck on the middle of your arguments and disagreements. Grow up people.
"It is true that medical doctors are now discovering all new problems that have been arising with people who have hashi's disease and are linking it to celiac disease as well."
Please provide specific references, other than what we all know...that once you have one autoimmune, you're more likely than the general population to develop another..
"Until you have specifically tried going gluten free then you really shouldn't be so opinionated about it."
I have Hashi's and was g/f (scrupulously) for about a year (I did it for reasons other than Hashi's). I saw absolutely no change in my antibody count, symptoms or thyroid meds intake. While it may be possible that a g/f diet might help in some stages of Hashi's, it's certainly a long stretch to contend that all of us, in all stages of Hashi's, benefit from a g/f diet.
"According to research reported on in the medical journal Digestive Diseases and Sciences, a significant number of patients with autoimmune thyroid disease also have celiac disease."
This is just telling us what we've known for years...once you have one autoimmune disease, you are more susceptible to another. There are more people with Hashi's that also have RA, PA. lupus, etc. also. Is this due to a genetic predisposition, an environmental trigger or is there a causal relationship between them? We don't know.
"Of perhaps greatest importance to thyroid patients, the researchers found that the various antibodies that indicate celiac disease - organ-specific autoantibodies (i.e., thyroid antibodies) -- will disappear after 3 to 6 months of a gluten-free diet."
Please provide specific reference, once again.
"While some recent books have reported on the impact of diet and nutrition on antibody levels, this RESEARCH demonstrates SCIENTIFICALLY how diet may in fact have a major role in autoimmune reactions."
Once again, links, please to this "scientific evidence".
Follow the money trail...this is big business, and some very savvy marketers have discovered that "a lie repeated frequently enough becomes the truth". Obviously, the internet allows that lie to be propagated with lightening speed. Hashi's is a can of worms for a number of reasons: 1) thyroid test reference ranges are severely flawed because many hypos were in the original "normal" population, 2) many (most?) doctors subscribe to the theory that once in range, anywhere in range, the patient is no longer hypothyroid.
No one has shown me any specific studies suggesting that celiac CAUSES Hashi's, much less that non-celiac gluten intolerance does. Yes, more people with celiac also have Hashi's than people without, but that does not prove CAUSE.
I think there are lots of "medical professionals" out there poised to take advantage of desperate patients.
Most of the evidence for a g/f diet improving Hashi's is anecdotal, and even that is painfully slim. Since you've struggled with Hashi's yourself, perhaps you'd care to post the results of your antibody tests before and after a g/f diet. Bear in mind that antibody counts vary wildly, even intraday, so unless those antibodies are ELIMINATED, I will not be impressed.
Please provide specific references, other than what we all know...that once you have one autoimmune, you're more likely than the general population to develop another..
"Until you have specifically tried going gluten free then you really shouldn't be so opinionated about it."
I have Hashi's and was g/f (scrupulously) for about a year (I did it for reasons other than Hashi's). I saw absolutely no change in my antibody count, symptoms or thyroid meds intake. While it may be possible that a g/f diet might help in some stages of Hashi's, it's certainly a long stretch to contend that all of us, in all stages of Hashi's, benefit from a g/f diet.
"According to research reported on in the medical journal Digestive Diseases and Sciences, a significant number of patients with autoimmune thyroid disease also have celiac disease."
This is just telling us what we've known for years...once you have one autoimmune disease, you are more susceptible to another. There are more people with Hashi's that also have RA, PA. lupus, etc. also. Is this due to a genetic predisposition, an environmental trigger or is there a causal relationship between them? We don't know.
"Of perhaps greatest importance to thyroid patients, the researchers found that the various antibodies that indicate celiac disease - organ-specific autoantibodies (i.e., thyroid antibodies) -- will disappear after 3 to 6 months of a gluten-free diet."
Please provide specific reference, once again.
"While some recent books have reported on the impact of diet and nutrition on antibody levels, this RESEARCH demonstrates SCIENTIFICALLY how diet may in fact have a major role in autoimmune reactions."
Once again, links, please to this "scientific evidence".
Follow the money trail...this is big business, and some very savvy marketers have discovered that "a lie repeated frequently enough becomes the truth". Obviously, the internet allows that lie to be propagated with lightening speed. Hashi's is a can of worms for a number of reasons: 1) thyroid test reference ranges are severely flawed because many hypos were in the original "normal" population, 2) many (most?) doctors subscribe to the theory that once in range, anywhere in range, the patient is no longer hypothyroid.
No one has shown me any specific studies suggesting that celiac CAUSES Hashi's, much less that non-celiac gluten intolerance does. Yes, more people with celiac also have Hashi's than people without, but that does not prove CAUSE.
I think there are lots of "medical professionals" out there poised to take advantage of desperate patients.
Most of the evidence for a g/f diet improving Hashi's is anecdotal, and even that is painfully slim. Since you've struggled with Hashi's yourself, perhaps you'd care to post the results of your antibody tests before and after a g/f diet. Bear in mind that antibody counts vary wildly, even intraday, so unless those antibodies are ELIMINATED, I will not be impressed.
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