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I'm 14 and I want to know the beat way for me to start losing weight. As most wieghtloss deits are for people 15 and over.
Everyone has a right to their opinion.
Coming on here attacking someone is not cool and is extremely arrogant. The people that answer here on this form want to help using their knowledge and experiences.
Your comment "careal is poison. With grains and cereals and a lot of fruits he wont make it" is your opinion.
Many different professionals would beg to differ. To each their own.
This thread was started by a 14yr old girl which needed help but you turned it into a bashing thread and this poor 14yr old girl only wanted some answers and help.
The first question you would ask this girl is how much does she weight?
There may be nothing wrong with her weight and sorry to say but a healthy balance diet including whole grains is what she needs as she is still growing and it is necessary.
Maybe you havent done your research as there are natural products out there that do not have sugar in them.
You seem to be an extremest that always needs to be right.
I have many various Autoimmune diseases and I have done a ton of research about food. I am not saying I am an expert but I do know a fair bit. Every persons immune system is different. Some things may work for some people and not for another.
You need to learn to be open minded and not belittle people just because they disagree with you. Its childish. If you are a professional (as you say you have clients) you might want to take a course in communication to learn how to disagree with someone positively without bashing them.
Coming on here attacking someone is not cool and is extremely arrogant. The people that answer here on this form want to help using their knowledge and experiences.
Your comment "careal is poison. With grains and cereals and a lot of fruits he wont make it" is your opinion.
Many different professionals would beg to differ. To each their own.
This thread was started by a 14yr old girl which needed help but you turned it into a bashing thread and this poor 14yr old girl only wanted some answers and help.
The first question you would ask this girl is how much does she weight?
There may be nothing wrong with her weight and sorry to say but a healthy balance diet including whole grains is what she needs as she is still growing and it is necessary.
Maybe you havent done your research as there are natural products out there that do not have sugar in them.
You seem to be an extremest that always needs to be right.
I have many various Autoimmune diseases and I have done a ton of research about food. I am not saying I am an expert but I do know a fair bit. Every persons immune system is different. Some things may work for some people and not for another.
You need to learn to be open minded and not belittle people just because they disagree with you. Its childish. If you are a professional (as you say you have clients) you might want to take a course in communication to learn how to disagree with someone positively without bashing them.
Some deeper knowledge of the enzymatic activity would be great for you. The key in fat loss are enzyme levels of lipoprotein lipase (LPL) and hormon sensitive lipase (HSL). LPL is the enzyme that stores fat, HSL is the enzyme that brake down and relase fat. LPL and HSL levels are controled with insuline and if insuline is relased HSL turns off and LPL gets active and voila fat loss is deactivated.
Cereals are processed foods with added sugar, colors like #red40 or #yellow6 witch are cancerogen and causes a lot of disease. Carbohydrates relase far more insuline in obese people. Obese people are insuline ressistant.
If you want links go research yourself what you want. Physiology and biochemistry of nutrition would be a great start.
And it is not one book, there are a lot autors witch confirm this, like Dr.Jonny Bowden, Paula Owens, Charles Poliquin, Dr. Serrano, Dr. Mauro DiPasquale , Dr. Mario DiPasquale.....etc etc there are a lot others.
So it is not MY POINT, it the point of a lot PhD's, The difference is that i get my information from quality books and you from classic female magazines. I have my references (books, witch are based on confirmed data from studys - i just dont care lo search at their references (so 100-500 per book) to get exactly the study you want...)
I have made my point and i have success with all my clients and i told how its going on. If you want grains, dairy and fruits go ahead and you'll never loose fat...just impossible :)
Cereals are processed foods with added sugar, colors like #red40 or #yellow6 witch are cancerogen and causes a lot of disease. Carbohydrates relase far more insuline in obese people. Obese people are insuline ressistant.
If you want links go research yourself what you want. Physiology and biochemistry of nutrition would be a great start.
And it is not one book, there are a lot autors witch confirm this, like Dr.Jonny Bowden, Paula Owens, Charles Poliquin, Dr. Serrano, Dr. Mauro DiPasquale , Dr. Mario DiPasquale.....etc etc there are a lot others.
So it is not MY POINT, it the point of a lot PhD's, The difference is that i get my information from quality books and you from classic female magazines. I have my references (books, witch are based on confirmed data from studys - i just dont care lo search at their references (so 100-500 per book) to get exactly the study you want...)
I have made my point and i have success with all my clients and i told how its going on. If you want grains, dairy and fruits go ahead and you'll never loose fat...just impossible :)
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While you have the right to your opinion, you do not have the right to launch a personal attack on me. My profile page is available to all to see; however, it is not your right to make rude comments about me in an attempt to prove your own point. You have no idea whether or not my health/weight issues have to do with gluten or grains. In fact, they do not.
Furthermore, making blanket statements, such as "careal is poison. With grains and cereals and a lot of fruits he wont make it" (sic), based on the contents of one book, is totally out of line. If you have links to studies that back up your statements, please post them; it is not my (or any other member's) responsibility to run them down. Just because they are included in a book doesn't make them fact.
Furthermore, making blanket statements, such as "careal is poison. With grains and cereals and a lot of fruits he wont make it" (sic), based on the contents of one book, is totally out of line. If you have links to studies that back up your statements, please post them; it is not my (or any other member's) responsibility to run them down. Just because they are included in a book doesn't make them fact.
they do spike blood sugar. Glycemic index is not what counts so much, glycemic LOAD counts and grains have a glycemic load over 20. There are 3 groups low GL medium GL and high GI. Low is below 10, medium is 10-20 and high is over 20.
i posted the link from a book, it is based on research and you can get your references there...
This information about gluten intolerance is not from the book above listed, can not remembere where i get it, maybe from the institute of functional medicine or so.
Yes i can see how well is it going with your weigth loss goal with grains etc... (your profile)
Yes a lot overweigth people have hypothyroidism.
Grains contain specific phytates witch block mineral apsorption, especially zinc. Zinc is essential for thyroid functioning, like selenium .Without optimal zinc and selenium intake thyroid gland can not function properly
i posted the link from a book, it is based on research and you can get your references there...
This information about gluten intolerance is not from the book above listed, can not remembere where i get it, maybe from the institute of functional medicine or so.
Yes i can see how well is it going with your weigth loss goal with grains etc... (your profile)
Yes a lot overweigth people have hypothyroidism.
Grains contain specific phytates witch block mineral apsorption, especially zinc. Zinc is essential for thyroid functioning, like selenium .Without optimal zinc and selenium intake thyroid gland can not function properly
COMMUNITY LEADER
You can't believe everything you read.
I've often lost weight eating cereals; granted, it has to be whole grain and unsweetened, but I've still lost weight eating it. Not all grains have a high glycemic value. In fact, whole grains actually have a low glycemic value because they take longer to break down in the stomach, so don't spike the blood sugar.
I totally recommend that refined sugar, flour, white rice, etc should be eliminated from the diet.
I agree that the majority of calories should come from veggies and that fruits contain fructose; however, I will discount anyone who advocates eliminating entire food groups unless one is allergic to them.
It is most certainly not true that most obese have hypothyroidism; nor is gluten a no no with hypothyroidism. Do you have documentation, other than the book referenced above, that says 90% of obese people are intolerant to gluten?
I did not have time to read the entire website you posted, but I never believe anything when it's presented as required "across the board". Everyone is different and we all react differently to things, including food. Life, and particularly, diet, is not a "one size fits all" proposition.
If you have studies, other than the book listed above, proving that no one should eat cereal, please post the links.
I've often lost weight eating cereals; granted, it has to be whole grain and unsweetened, but I've still lost weight eating it. Not all grains have a high glycemic value. In fact, whole grains actually have a low glycemic value because they take longer to break down in the stomach, so don't spike the blood sugar.
I totally recommend that refined sugar, flour, white rice, etc should be eliminated from the diet.
I agree that the majority of calories should come from veggies and that fruits contain fructose; however, I will discount anyone who advocates eliminating entire food groups unless one is allergic to them.
It is most certainly not true that most obese have hypothyroidism; nor is gluten a no no with hypothyroidism. Do you have documentation, other than the book referenced above, that says 90% of obese people are intolerant to gluten?
I did not have time to read the entire website you posted, but I never believe anything when it's presented as required "across the board". Everyone is different and we all react differently to things, including food. Life, and particularly, diet, is not a "one size fits all" proposition.
If you have studies, other than the book listed above, proving that no one should eat cereal, please post the links.
Barb135 get a look at this book - Cereal Killer http://www.amazon.com/Cereal-Killer-Alan-L-Watson/dp/0972048111
Yes Fruits have minerals and vitamins, but they have fructose. In obese people even a small secretion of insuline can lower HSL levels so much that they can't loose fat, or even gain fat. For obese people a much better source for vitamins and minerals are vegetables.
Grains have a to high glycemic load, contain phytates witch affects mineral apsorption, especially zinc witch is very important for thyroid functioning. Because most obese have hypothyroidism its a no-no. Then Gluten, 90% of obese people is intolerant to gluten.
Whoever takes careals, grains, fruits and dairy products has a guarantee for not loosing fat, but good chances to gain fat
Yes Fruits have minerals and vitamins, but they have fructose. In obese people even a small secretion of insuline can lower HSL levels so much that they can't loose fat, or even gain fat. For obese people a much better source for vitamins and minerals are vegetables.
Grains have a to high glycemic load, contain phytates witch affects mineral apsorption, especially zinc witch is very important for thyroid functioning. Because most obese have hypothyroidism its a no-no. Then Gluten, 90% of obese people is intolerant to gluten.
Whoever takes careals, grains, fruits and dairy products has a guarantee for not loosing fat, but good chances to gain fat
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