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1459555 tn?1286399269

10 days clean and feel like ripping my hair out from lack of sleep

Hi everyone. Im 10 days clean and entering into my 11th day in a couple of hours. Im in a dispair from no sleep and STILL feeling crappy. Im so upset because Im reading all these posts that says after 5 days you start to feel good. The only thing that happened after 5 days was that I went back to work. I know that everyone says a lot of it is mental after 5 days, but come on ! Its going into 11 days and in those 11 days I am STILL only getting 1 hour sleep. Thats a total of 10 hours sleep in nearly 11 days. I CANY keep this up. Im doing all the correct things,taking hot baths every night before trying to sleep. Im following the amino's and taking multu vitamin and extra vitamin B. And the worse thing of all is that I am STILL experiencing physical stuff. I have got a constant tense anxious feeling in my head all the time, and I feel this is stopping me from sleeping. Ive taken every herbal stuff out there for sleeping even Kava but nothing is working. I cant go on like this. Whats wrong with me. Why is everyone else getting better at this time and not me. Im terrified that this is as good as its going to get for me, as I havnt improved or gotten worse in about 5 days, just stayed the same.I had such high hopes .........Christine
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It took my about 2 weeks to get my sleep back, and maybe all the vitamins you are taking may be making you feel bad, maybe you should just stick to one mult-vitamin a day, instead of everything you are taking.
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Sorry to hear your struggles are still so intense. Do not be discouraged ,  you are right on track.  You were on a hi dose and coupled with the age factor, it does take longer. I detoxed from 600 mg oxy back in '09 at age 48 and reading your post sounds very similar to my experience. I'm now at day 623 or so and even though much better, there are still issues. However it is so worth the fight and the continued issues to get out from under the spell of opiates   You are doing yourself a huge favor even though it is so torturous right now. Hang in there,  I promise you it will get better in time. Unfortunately not in our time, in God's time. Keep posting and fight for every day, it will get easier eventually. My best to you. guv
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1459555 tn?1286399269
Thanks Chico I went to the pharmacy and bought some nytol so will try that out tonight and see how it goes. To worried878... I was taking approx. 500mg of codein a day right up to when I first tried to go c/t. I nearly had a stroke and was rushed to hospital by ambulance with 189/110BP so ended up taking 4 pills a day and a half into the c/t. After that I started again and thats taken me up to now.
I have spoken to quite a lot of addicts that were first using for chronic pain, and its obviously a bit harder for us getting off the pills because we then have to deal with chronic pain after the detox. I do think what Gnarly said is true and that its harder when your older as well. I beat a very severe addiction from heavy opiates like codein and morphine 20 years ago. I wasnt using as high a dosage this time around and havnt touched morphine only codeine this time, but its sooooo much harder this time around. I seem to remember last time I started sleeping again around 6 days later, so age does definately count when dealing with addiction withdrawl symptoms.
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hi u, hang in there -the state of deep rest from gnarly sounds good... i have been trying to fight it till i basicly pass out..  we are all different in detox -it took 30 days from the tramadol for me and many were saying 7-10 days - and then some were like 90days.. Towards the end i was having lots of doubts as to what was wrong with me. be strong cos u ARE putting in so much effort to get through this, and it WILL be worth it..
all the best T.
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401095 tn?1351391770
what was your dose and doc when u stopped?

Im sorry but i dont check in asmuch as i should

I do know 99% of this is upstairs////knowing ur history would help tho?
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1459555 tn?1286399269
ok thank you everyone. You have all given me that push that I so desperately needed to continue on. I still cant even imagine how it will be to maybe go another month or two of this, but Ive had a lot of adversity in life that most people never have to go through, and if its done anything its made me strong enough to fight day by day. I can get through the back and spinal pain that has come back full force. I can get through the headaches and migraines. But I never knew how it would feel to go this long without sleep, but as long as I know that there are others out there who have experienced this and got through to the other side eventually, I will find the strength and just keep on keeping on. ...............Christine
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HI Christine ....God how I feel your pain....sleep took forever to come back to me try not to get discouraged its different for everyone ...one thing I have defently noticed is the older you are the slower the recovery...I detoxed at 47 it took me a lot longer then the 20somethings to come around you will start to sleep again I just cant tell you when
I detoxed off a 16 1/2yr habit with the last 6 1/2yrs on methadone my withdrawal was long and hard like my habit was...I experienced physical symptoms well into 2 weeks and then was sick the rest of the month....I started to sleep around 2 mo into it for like 3 to 4 hr a night
and since its increased to around 6 1/2 to 7 hr on a good night you will make it threw this I did....its no fun going threw it but when your brain needs sleep you will get some it may only come in cat naps at first but it will return to normal...right now try laying on the couch with some soft music playing in the background...lay with your eyes closed ...you will go into a deep state of rest....its not sleep but its as close as your going to get for a wile
it will help you make it threw the day....I know what a struggle your going threw right now...in the end when it all said and done it is so so worth it so hang in there you might sleep tonight mabe not till next week but the prize is worth all the anguish...prayer also seamed to help relax me...I wish I had the answer your looking for but only God and time will heal you....good luck and God bless.....Gnarly    
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1444453 tn?1287103137
I feel the same as you believe me - and I'm at day 27 clean and I STILL have diarrhea, can't sleep and NO energy at all.  I'm barely able to get through my work day and then just crash on the couch afterwards - but not sleep, nooooo that would be too much of a relief!

I heard others saying that they were feeling soooo great after a week or so and here I am at almost a month and I still don't feel well at all.  I've almost gave in a few times thinking to myself "what's the point anyway if I can't get back to my normal self?" but then I just keep thinking that maybe tomorrow is the day that it will all be gone.  One day that just HAS to be true - doesn't it???

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that we seem to all heal at different rates of time and then we still have to deal with the mental part of it all afterwards.  The point is that we took a long time to get to where we were before our detox's - we can't expect to get "back to normal" in mere days after what we've put our bodies through for months, years or how ever long we used.  I guess it's all just part of paying the piper.  Not what we want to hear - but unfortunately seems to be the case.

Keep up the great work and post often - it helps.  And for the sleep - I found taking one Nytol at night has helped me get about 6-7 hrs a night.  With sleep everything else seems to get a bit better.  Day by day.
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I just wanted to say, since you mentioned trying Kava, PLEASE do not take any more - this has been shown to cause liver damage and our livers are pretty stressed already.  Best of luck to you.
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Withdrawals are ruthless and the sleep deprivation alone takes a toll on the body.  Everyone is different and the time frame of others cannot determine your own.  It has to be disheartening to be on day 11 (close enough to give credit) and still feel the symptoms that others are getting past in half the time so I understand your frustration but keep your head up and try to think positive...you have made it through the worst and you are on the verge of a new awakening.
During methadone withdrawals I actually slept ok, my fiance and I both did somehow...thank goodness because that is the only thing that felt semi-normal for a long time.  Now it is a different story and I am having a very hard time with sleep.  I also will not take anything because I am set on de-toxing and not re-toxing.  Perhaps we will converse in the night...this forum helps so much during this time.  
Natural Calm is a good powdered blend of calcium and magnesium - it is awesome if you could try to pick some up.
Best of luck.  Keep up the good work.
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Christine~  I've been hearing good things about "Super Snooze Melatonin".  It has a lot of natural herbs and minerals in it. You can get it in most drug stores. You can take two at a time and it should work for you. Give it a try!
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Hey Christine!  A few years ago when I detoxed, I went MONTHS without sleeping more than a few minutes a night.  I literally thought I would lose my mind!  It led to a LONG addiction to ambien and various assorted sleeping pills and benzos.  THEN....coming off of that was REALLY fun!  NOT....

The only advice I can give you is to have patience, no matter how hard it gets.  Don't turn to another med to help, because you will eventually just have to stop it like you are doing now.  I know it will be hard, but try walking everyday, in the morning or afternoon.  

If you aren't already, try Mag/Cal/Zinc supplement at night and a dose of nyquil.  I wish I could tell you when this will end, but I just know that everyone is different.  Don't compare yourself to others.  That just makes you crazy!

This is NOT as good as it will get.  Please trust me on that one! : )  Keep your chin up!
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1459555 tn?1286399269
I was taking codeine. I can call a dr but whats the point of getting sleeping pills and only ever being able to sleep with them. Then I will have another problem. I think my body is so used to me taking codeine as a sleeper as well as taking them through the day. I was using about 500mg a day when all added up
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Oh I'm sorry to hear that.  What were you taking before got clean.
It might not seem like it right now but 10-11 days is great. It will be over soon.
Can you call a dr and get something to help you sleep?  
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