Buprenorphine Detox from Methadone - good, bad?

[The]

Hi everybody,
i need advice about buprenorphine. does it work to get off methadone? what do you experience when you're on it?
anything would be helpful.  thanks    -cat

[K3lli3]

Suboxone, Subutex, either will work.
I had a bad 1st week switching from Methadone after 7 years
But it was worth it.
You dont really get a high unless you for some reason miss a couple days and take one. You definitely come out of the methadone stupor and thats a good thing.

[marty342]

I sound exactly like ure boyfreind and if u ask my ex who I have children with she will tell u youre story is hers , I am no longer with her it herts but you I am abstenant  from drugs now no methadone script , no heroin, nothing . But the only thing I really wanted was her and my family. Fuking heroin. I had used meth and h for ten yrs  and ruined a lot of lives , hope this is usefull to you marty

[christphert]

   I've been off methadone for about 3 and a have months now and my withdrawal symptoms still haven't gone away. It's not really bad but bad enough that i'm ready to try suboxone. I didn't want to go this route but i'm sick of being sick. It took me about 3 months of hell just to go down from 110 milligrams to 0 after being on methadone for 3 and a have years. I did a very fast withdrawal to get it over with but to my dismay 3 and a half months later i'm still dealing with this. I want to the hospital but they would only give me adivan which did not help at all. Can anyone tell me where to go to get suboxone? I have no money for paid doctor. I need to go back to work. Also 2 times i started to feel like i was better so i went out with friends and had some mixed drinks and both times the withdrawal symptoms came back harder and i felt like i just lost a whole month of withdrawal. I will not drink until i am 100% from now on. Has anyone else had the same thing happen where i night out and withdrawal symptoms come right back?

[swag33]

Subutex not suboxone works great for methadone detox don't let anybody tell you any different I have done it there is hardly any withdrawal trust me it works

[madoner]

I just want everyone to know and understand how evil and unforgiving this drug methadone is. Its origin was from nazi Germany during ww2 .hItler ordered his pharmaceutical scientists to design many new synthetic drugs from pain meds, to stimulants,hallucinogens,truth syrums, etc.   since the allies were shutting down trade routes and bombing pharmaceutical companies they did not have pproduction of opium and therefore were unable to produce those morphine and other ancient opiods that were needed to keep keep his wehrmacht (army) functioning . Thus is how methADONE was created the demonic minds of the nazis we shut up shop on the morphs and the dones ascended from the ashes of the rubble that was left. its common sense what then happened after that this drug spread like while fire once american and allie soldiers discovered the pisitive side of the "medicine".
   I to thought this to be a miracle drug when i first popped one or two ,which eventually led to as many as i could afford 100-200 10mgs a week. 150-300 mgs a day aND still functioning

[MasterJedi]

I would have to say that Sure anything is possible and it simply comes down to trying to see if you can do it. I have been a Herion Addict and Morphine pills etc, and have now been on the Methadone program for 8 years now, I tried to quit once about 4 years ago and used morphine elson pills (time release beads) and tapered down on those. But when it came down to the crunch your sincerity will tested and your determination. Also I should mention that you are in fact suffering from aches and pains from past injuries or something of this sort, when you start the end withdrawals it may be too much as it was for me and this may be a unfortunate reminder why some people started taking pain meds in the first place. So quitting may be counterproductive. After all most people who have been down this road long enough knows that this life style unfortunately takes its toll and leaves you dependent.

However if you can, take it one day at a time. I am just one person with a point of view and you can take it or shove it.

All I know is that Methadone gave me back my dignity and a place in society to be productive, it is almost impossible to abuse this drug according to restrictions on prescriptions.

Keep you head up.

MasterJedi

[avisg]

MOM this is a very old post copy your post and make a new thread . ohhhh my the put you on sub for a codine addiction ???? How did you end up on the methadone ?
I really feel for you these are two hard core drugs (the methadone and sub).....

[momocnr]

Dear Members,
I read the post about detoxing from meth.  I was hoping you could give me some advice.  I started taking it 2 years ago when i thought i might relapse.  i was taking tylenol with codeine and did a buprenorphine detox with my doctor.  when i began taking it, at the advice of a fellow rehab-er, i was ignorant of the addiction.  yes, i know, it was incredibly naive.  i have never been on more than 10mgs per day, in the morning, and i very much want to detox.  i read your post and was wondering if you would alter your advice due to my low dosage, or if that really doesn't matter.  i am petite at 100 lbs.  i have a doctor i can see for the buprenorphine, but he doesn't know i will need his help again.  i don't take codeine but have heard that is the best way to wean oneself off of methodone.  I would value your advice.  thx, momocnr

[nogie1717]

Try the suboxone, but tell your doc that it is a short term thing.
He will best guide you how to get off.
My DOC was Methadone and suboxone (in Treatment) worked wonders as it does today (I got back on after a relapse for a more long term treatment)

[CRIMSONTRUE]

I have been addicted to opiates for 8 years, starting with lortab then joining the done clinic,got off the clinic because I went to jail, I was on 150mgs a day for a year at that time. Now I have been steadily taking between 40 and 20 mgs a day for about 5 months and my fiance knows nothing about it and I don't want her to ever know, I am desperate to kick this addiction and now I have something in my life worth staying sober for and even if I didn't for the first time in my life I want to be sober! I despise be dependant on this drug and I truly hate it. My plan was to be put on soboxone cause I thought it was a mircle pill and was easy to come off of but after reading these posts I am scared I would yet again be replacing one drug for another. Am I mistaking and could anyone offer me some much needed insight or suggestions I might not have considered?   Thanks and may God bless!

[locknut]

just wondering if any one out there is trying to get off of opana er? ihave lowered my dose from 60 mi aday to 40ml aday. ive been experiencing leg shakes and some sort of body siezures.severe headaches extreme pain.anyone out there succesful with getting off the opana? ive been taking opana for fives but was previosly on methadone 150 ml a day,was weened off and put on this unbearable opana.every day funtioning is no longer in my life. need advice from some one who has or has had this problem ......rob

[Calzy]

My advice is the same as BonnieAnn, start a new post so everyone can see it and it's not buried on the bottom here. I'll be looking for it.

[BonnieAnn]

Hi. Listen, why don't you back to the beginning of this forum and post your own question. You will get a lot more feedback that way.
This thread is from 6 years ago. A lot of people will not recognize it and you may not responses.
Start your own question, tell your story. There are a lot of good folks in here who will help you if they can.

Hope to see you again.

[Eph4oria]

I've been on meth for about four years now and the clinic is detoxing me 5 mgs. per day. I have wanted to get of this stuff for a while now. I am forced to do it at this point. I have been in a box for four years due to this drug. Everyday it's about getting my dose. Before it was about getting my dope. What has changed? I'll tell you.. now I'm addicted to a legel drug which is much worse than the herion on the street. What we have is a state sactioned drug dealer which holds all the cards in your life. I agree methadone is good for a limited time and dose. Never go above 70 mgs. That is a life choice. I was only using two bags a day and the clinic convinced me to keep going up on my dose. It was one of the worst choices in my life. Now they are detoxing me cuz I spilled the beans about the malpractice I've been subjected too.
I will go through the detox with the help of meds ( clonidine, Klonipin, furicicet, xanax, seraqual and any others which might help. I don't want to resort to herion but I know if it gets real bad I might to alieviate the symptoms. I rather not. I don't want bup either. one for another is not sane but neither is going back to dope. I also will smoke weed to alieviate some symptoms ( only high end bud ) I could use some feedback and support.

[blondee68]

I understand the mental and physical part of this **** we're going through.  I have more of the physical pain than anything else.  Sure, every so often I wish I could take some pills and get that not so high, but fuzzy feeling again.  But, I know that nobody wants to prescribe the stuff anyway. I am worried about my headaches a lot!  But, until I can figure out what type of doctor to try again, I guess I'm just going to take excedrin and the such.  I know it isn't a cure all, but overall my headaches haven't been so bad, until I hit my head while flipping my car.  I'm going back to work tomorrow, so I hope I will be okay.  Just took the last of my small amount of Lortab (20) so, hopefully I'll be okay.

You've been a great support as others have too.  It must be stressful with four teens,  a divorce, and job issues.  I understand some of it.  I am only working as a temp, so my job could go away anytime, even though they say they like me, but can't afford to buy the contract I have with the temp agency.  And I have two teens, one of which turned 19 today and we have had so many problems with him that it would take pages for that story.  He no longer lives with us, and it's a sad story.

But Kudos to you for doing so well.  I can only hope my road to recovery will continue to be good, because I only want to go through this once.  Even though I have been on meds for several years.  This is the only time I've gone cold turkey for the most part.  I'll keep you and everyone else in my thoughts and prayers!

Have a good week, or until we post again.

[blondee68]

Hey, thanks for all the support you've given to me.  It's been 8 days without Methadone, and for the most part I'm good.  The only major problem is on Thursday night I rolled and flipped my car, and ended up upside down in a ditch.  I was driving while tired, but thought I could make it, and lost control of my car, and I am so happy that nobody else was involved.  But, my beautiful car is totalled and that hurts terribly, even tho it's only a car.  I've only had it since 2006 when I bought it new.  I did fairly well all considering, I've got cuts and bruises all over and a major case of whiplash, which I think part of it has to do with my seatbelt going across my neck.  The ER wouldn't give me anything really for pain, when I actually did need it.  They gave me a couple of shots which didn't work, then sent me home with Flexiril, so I went to a minor emergency clinic and got some Lortab and Valium for the muscle spasms.  So, I guess that's not the best thing for me, but the pain was unbearable!! Of course I did take more than the one pill every 6-8 hours, so I'm out today, but I'm doing a little bit better today.  I just wish I could take back that moment, it was so scary!!  And now my dream car is gone to scrap metal.  

I feel pretty good without the Methadone, but I have also had pain meds through it, so we'll see.  I've got to figure out what type of doctor to go to next for my headaches.  I sure don't want that terrible medication ever again.

Good luck to all of you, it's a hard and difficult journey, but it can be done without having to take that Suboxone, and just get hooked to another drug.  

Thanks again for the support, it means more than anything to me!!
Blondee68

[Calzy]

blondee~Your statment made sense to me if that makes sense. Having a real battle coming off the 'done today, all the mental issues hitting at once. Thinking about a new job , living with divorce
with 4 teen age kids and so on. It's so hard to start over. As addict's we live with pain all the time with some real pains and some hyped up to feed our monster. I have been able to handle a level of phys. pain better than i do the mental part. The hard part of this is we keep doing this hurt to our selves over and over. Sorry but not thinking clearly today so i need to stop. I have done the 28 day rehab, out patient AA-NA and it just help so i have to find a way back to some counsiling again. This site does help as i never did anything like this before on line.
Use to go to the Warren Dunes in MI and drive there on Sundays to buy beer in the disco years, you know about the laws than. Keep fighting the good fight and share your feelings and dont allow them to fester inside.

[blondee68]

I'm not sure what I meant when I said "I still hav e done around but refuse to take it?" I know it meant I won't take Methadone again but the rest is I guest gibberish sorry, don't have a clue.  I think I meant I have some around the house, but refuse to take it.  That's it.  Sorry for the confusion.  It sounds stupid the way I put it.  I had one drink, and it all goes to my head.  Go figure!!!

Thanks to all supportive!!!

[blondee68]

Thanks too for your words of wisdom.  It does help when someone else is outthere and is dealing with the same thing, and complety understands.  I never want to do this again, and I can promise that I will never go on Methadone again, that is an evil word, that I should not have considered in the first place, had the doctor not talked me into it.  Jerk!  Yeah, I hope that my migraines will get better, but it's hard to have hope when you've dealth with them since like age 7, but I'm trying.  Today wasn't so special, but all things considered I could be a lot worse!!  I still have done around, but refuse to take it, NEVER again will I go through that stupidity again!!

It has been raining some, but not too bad yet.  Yesterday was pretty bad, but today was just humid.  I'm from Michigan like when I was a kid, long long time ago.  I appreciate the positive words and encouragement because sometimes that's all you've got in the world, it's not like you can just tell the people you work with, "hey I am coming off Methadone".  So, it's nice to know there are people who understand and who care.  Thank you from the very bottom of my heart!!  I mean it !!!!!!
Take care to you and to all who suffer as we do.  I wish all the best.:-)))))
Love to you all!!!

[Calzy]

Thanks so much for your kind words to me, it just lifts your spirit when your are down or troubled. Going through another detox and w/d is never fun and you want it to be the last, i know i do. You can never say never but i don;t want to go backwards any longer and i'm sure you feel thr same. You said you had just grad from college and maybe with that pressure off, your migraine's may lessen.
I use to get bad migraine's when kid #2 came around and it started getting stressful.  There is a pretty good med that thins the blood or helps move the blood in your head and relieve's the pressure around your head but i can't think of the name off hand. Hope your dealing with what day 4 or 5
i think so it can onlt get better and now just control the mental, why me feelings.  I hope your not getting flooded out there, i'm seeing all the rain in the mid-west. I was born & lived 30 yrs in the big city north of you by Lake Mich and always use to ride my motorcycle down to IN around Crown Point and Bass Lake in my late teens.  Anyway, enjoy your new life and freedom off the **** that was holding you back and just keep using that big brain of yours and you will succeed at whatever you set out to do. I have to go, time to find a new job, o'boy.

[blondee68]

Hey, you're right on checking back on this page a lot to see what others are saying and also feeling down on myself.  First for being talked into trying this medication, and second for my problem in general.  I think I am in the home stretch since I haven't had anything since Saturday morning, and it's Tuesday night.  I may be being too hopeful, but I feel okay.  I did feel feverish over the weekend, and a little yesterday, but today was better, so I have to assume that I'm getting over it.  I am so proud of you for being on day 5 from a larger dose than I was.  I think that's great!  Did you have any symptoms at all?  Thank you so much for your great words of advice, maybe I can help someone else in this situation.  I really am glad that I didn't go on that other medication, I think it would have been just another bad situation to get myself out of.  Maybe it's great for some people, I just feel like knowing me, it just isn't the right decision for me, at this time anyway.  By the way, here's an at-a-boy just for you, because you definitly deserve it!!  I think we have done very well, and without help. (except of course everyone here!!)

Hopefully we will have both beat the odds, and that says something, now doesn't it??  I think we should be proud!
Take care, and keep writing and letting me or us know how you are doing, because I care!!!
Good luck to all here with all of our demons. We can do it, we just have to have faith and determination.

[blondee68]

Thank you for your support.  I feel like I am doing really surprisingly well, and I'm very happy and hopeful.  I haven't had any of that nasty stuff since Saturday morning, and it was a small dose, so I think I'm over the hump.  I hope!!!  Thanks for being so sweet, and caring, it does mean the world to me going through this and not having anyone who understands.  It's amazing how nice someone who doesn't even know you can be!!  Thank you! Take care :-)

[Calzy]

blondee~I know how you feel when your taking a big step like this, you want to share it and get the at-a-boy's back. Feeling down on your self is normal at this stage and i am going through it right now going c/t off my methadone for the 5th day now. I know you check your posts every min or so looking for something good to read and yes you need that now and i hope more people will support you. There are so many people hurting here and now that you are on your way you can maybe help someone else and that will make you feel good too. You can and will make it and don't let the addiction voice get louder than your voice.  

[Calzy]

blondee~I know how you feel when your taking a big step like this, you want to share it and get the at-a-boy's back. Feeling down on your self is normal at this stage and i am going through it right now going c/t off my methadone for the 5th day now. I know you check your posts every min or so looking for something good to read and yes you need that now and i hope more people will support you. There are so many people hurting here and now that you are on your way you can maybe help someone else and that will make you feel good too. You can and will make it and don't let the addiction voice get louder than your voice.