I am a music minister in an Evangelical Bible Church and have just had my second back surgery. My back feels great! I had unbearable pain for only a year (not much compared to some of the posters on here (7+ years of back pain, how do you do it?)). Throughout my year of pain, my doctor prescribed me hydrocodone (from 5's to eventually 10's) and tramadol 50mg (which I took with tylenol 50/500 - making it basically generic ultracet). As surgery neared, I was taking 3 hydrocodone 10's and 2 "ultracet" twice a day - making 6 hydrocodone and 4 ultracet/day. My doctor is a friend of mine and I was honest with him about my concern for how many I was taking. I never abused the drug. It was strictly used for pain and I felt I used the minimum effective dose. I rarely sought the euphoria, although I did enjoy it.
However, now, without real back pain for 4 months, I find myself having more of a desire for the euphoria - especially when I am working on Sunday mornings (leading music). I am not as comfortable on stage, and lots of people give me a bit of anxiety (always have, its nothing I cant deal with without drugs). But, I have used ultracet a few times in this context for the purpose of relaxation and anxiety release rather than physical pain. I keep a bottle of hydrocodone and tramadol around for bad days (physical pain). A bottle of 100 will last me 6-7 months.
To my question: I realize taking any opioid for anything other than physical pain is abuse of the drug. Is it terribly unhealthy for me to take it twice a month when on stage performing (I am also into Barbershop Quartet singing and other venues of musical/stage performance)? I did a wedding two years ago and took two "ultracet" before. It made me comfortable and relaxed on stage - no anxiety or stage fright. Is this unhealthy behavior - especially for someone in a position like mine? Could this be harmless? Are there other medicines that are less habit-forming that may have the same effect?
This makes me wonder if this is why actors and performers so often get into drugs - for increased performance in their jobs.
Yeah the problem is most of us started just the way you are and sometimes its fast for others like me it took years before I was using everyday all day but sooner or later it will happen its the nature of the beast. You are lucky enough to relize already you might be headed for a problem take care of it now before you are here telling us you are taking 20 ultrams a day just to get threw the day ,trust me it does happen we see it all of the time :)
Whoa....Your circumstances really rang true for me. Been there,done that, and yes, it eventually led to addiction. I am clean now, going on four months from Vicodin and a whole month free from Tramadol (bad stuff, man). Life is good.
I still occasioanlly get the desire for that buzz; it is really strong today despite the fact that I am feeling pretty good, pain wise. You are very lucky and wise (and maybe a little help from The Man Updstairs) to recognize where you may be going with this. And if I use my own experience as a guide, you are indeed heading down a slippery slope.
You were honest with your doc once, so do it again. Tell him/her that you've caught yourself taking for the high and for "coping" versus real pain management, and seek alternatives. I've been able to control my pain with Etodolac, kind of a high-test Aleve, an NSAID. It's risky as it is hard on the stomach and I need to have periodic liver testing done, but it does work and I am able to function. Maybe your doc can give you an alternative, non-opiate for those occasional flare-ups. If he does, flush the trams and the oxys. Especially the trams.
Be advised some medicos dispense Tramadol as it controls pain "but doesn't produce the high that vicodin and percocet and others do." Well, that's true, but it is VERY addictive and the withdrawals, at least from my experience, were way nastier than the vikes. Ergo, if the doc wants to leave you on trams, resist. Don't go there.
listen to avisg - - many of the people on this forum have horror stories. And it doesnt hurt that Trams were misrepresented by drug manufacturers and sales people for so long. Its really as much an antidepressant as it is a pain pill - - and there are better ones for your purposes - - - - I was the Director of Building and Grounds for a large mid town Methodist Church and I do know how demanding the positions can be ....... keep looking for a better answer. The ultram/trammadol will take more from you than it gives........
yes...i used to take 2 a day.... it helped with getting everything done...loved that buzz of well being and i was confident in everything i was doing as long as i had that pill...that changed into 3 a day 4 a day till i was up to 10 a day. listen to cathy...2 a month might just lead to addiction. save yourself now..stop if you don t need them please..maria
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