Does the "Thomas recipe" work? If not what helps

[Desperatetoeclean]

I have been addicted to pain pills for the last ten years or so. I take A LOT of whatever I can get my hands on most commonly 80mg oxies 200mg morphine slow release Statex which is another form of morphine but a quick release as well as a quick release of oxies called Super doll. I'm not proud whatsoever very much ashamed actually. I NEED to detox but I don't have nearly enough self control taper myself and can't take time off to do it. I've been looking at the "thomas recipe" a lot the last few days and it has me very intrigued. If this doesn't work can you please point me in the right direction I've been hooked for far too long and am no longer the active happy person I should be. I work away from home and before I leave I'm so worried if I have enough pills to last the week even if I do I'm too damn week to make them last the week and come Thursday I'm freking out and can't tell anyone at work cause I can't lose my job. I just need some help and some advise on at least how to cut the cold sweats while I'm at work cause I cannot function without the pills.

[an_anonymous_user]

I've been awake for 4 hours on day two, I took 500mg of ltyrosine, a flintstones vitamin, smoked some pot, drank a good amount of water and cranberry juice, FORCED myself to eat half a p.b. sandwich and a granola bar.  I would eat a banana to (for digestive help and for potassium) but I ran out with my banana binge yesterday. I'll get more later for sure.  It's Sunday, I have nothing to do, off from work tomorrow, may call out tuesday depending on how I feel, definitely working wednesday no matter what, thanksgiving, family, craziness, thursday, work friday, two days off.  That's my next 6 days.  In my experience, day 2-3 is the worst of it, but this is also kind of a new experience, because I've been on suboxone for like 3 weeks, and I've never really fully detoxed off subs like that.  I've read bad things, usually I only take them here or there between blues and whatever.
I went on subs, at first like 12-16 mg a day, but tapered down from that but even if I did get blues, they didn't really do anything.  The last time I did them, they kind of did, on Friday, 48 hours off the subs.  Today, I'm very cold, my veins are buried in my skin, I'm anxious, can't really sit still, I had bad diarreha this morning, sinus issues, forcing myself to eat but basically "playing sick".  I fear for tonight, 48 hours, when everyone's off to bed.  I feel that most times, my clock is so off, and my body is so whacked, that like I'm tired all day, but when it's time for bed, forget it, I feel like my arms won't stop throbbing and I watch the sun come up.  I'm hoping that's not what's in the cards for tonight, but planning that it probably is.  I'm tinkering with taking a couple benadryl an hour or so before bed, but I've tried that different times with zero result and bad effects the next morning, but we'll see.  Next post...

[an_anonymous_user]

It's Sunday. Day two.  I woke up at 10am, slept (with moderate interruption) from midnight to 10am.  I believe this is crucial to help alleviate the symptions.  In my experience, at 24-28 hours since your last dose, for a fairly regular user, is the beginning of the hell.  I've noticed, that if my 24 hours starts around bedtime on day one (meaning my last done was like a couple hours before bedtime the previous day), I can sleep.  So I wake up, day two, at 36 hours since my last dose.  Not fun waking up after a long night of weird dreams, remembering all these dreams because of waking up with being hot or cold so many times.  Bad intestenial problems.  Stomach pain, ********, but after about an hour of that, it stopped (tomorrow's will be much worse).  Now, I'm regularly smoking pot (by design) to combat things.  I also smoke cigarettes, which probably isn't good, but it gives me something to do and nicotine i guess.  Next post

Yesterday, day one, I hydrated a lot with water and cranberry juice (vitamin c, body clearing properties).  I also smoked some pot and took some L-tyrosine around dinner time.  I ate a few bananas as well, to load up on potassium (helps with that deep bone pain that is sure to come).  
So I think we're up to date.  Next post...

[an_anonymous_user]

I was very anxious, lethargic, panicked (mostly for knowing what's about to come tomorrow), short with my family.  I had leg and lower back pain, not terrible, I was tired, had to force myself to eat and stay hydrated, it did not come naturally.  I did some preparation by getting juices, l-tyrosine (which this is my first time trying), making sure i had benadryl and also making sure like some mild things were in order so I could kind of "check out" the next few days (mowed the grass and picked up leaves)... All in all, a doable day.  I plan to w/d when I have days off.  I've heard people say it's easier to be at work and interact or whatever, but for me, I need to be home, close to a tub, with little things around me to combat the worst of the withdrawls.  So I took off Monday, have the option to call out tuesday.  I look at it like this.  Saturday day one, not fun, Sunday, day two, feeling blue (an understatement for sure, but I know what it means), Monday, day three, almost free, Tuesday, day four, not much more.  Day five, still alive.  A little childish, I know, but I plan my d/t's around this.  Start, ideally on a friday, but I wasn't able to do that this time, and plan for 4 days where you can fly below radar.  I've done it when I have a week's vacation (wonderful) and I've done it with day two (the worst) being a Monday, and getting through a difficult work week (also doable, very, very unpleasant in my opinion).  Next post...

[an_anonymous_user]

Quick history:  Started at 20 years old, in this order, kid, herion, rehab, hard working family man..  As life went on, I cheated, by using here and there.  Ultram, oxy's, dope (very rarely), all kinds of stuff.  Recently (since it pertains to my reason for posting) I've been.. hmm, suboxone'd (off the street; 4-16mgs a day, somewhere in there) for like 3 weeks, but before that a lot of blues (30mg ir o.c., off the street).  Before that, Ultram, a lot, for a couple years (i know they say it's not that bad, but trust me, that serotonin/norephenepirine **** really hangs with you when you kick, still felt it like 1-2 weeks after, but beat that too a few times).

So yes, it's not THAT bad, I understand this, people do 2 bundles a day and ****, and I was there too, that first heroin withdrawl lasted for two weeks, a good two weeks.  But I still w/d even with the dabbling I do with blues and now I've been subbing for 3 weeks (last 4 days 4mgs/day).  
So here is is.  I'm on day two.  Telling my family I have a stomach bug.  Last saturday through wednesday i took 4mg of sub a day, (that's the best I could do 'weening' down) then thursday and friday I did only blues, which didn't even do anything because of the sub, but I certainly wasn't in withdrawl.  Saturday, day one, not too bad, never really is, slept like a good 8 hours last night (although was up quite a bit with sweats) but there was sleep and dreams.  Now I kind of do a 24 hour clock, and a day system.  I last took anything on Friday night at 6pm.  So I do like 24 hours clean (when i first really notice w/d symptions) at 10pm on Saturday night.  So, Saturday, yesterday, day one... next post...

[an_anonymous_user]

Ok, so I read this thread on Saturday (11/17) in preparation for opiate withdrawl.  This guy failed, just as I have to many times.  Actually, this guy failed before he even gave it a shot.  I, regularly, well, not regularly, but like once, sometimes twice a month, go through d/t's and have been losing the battle for some time.  BUT, I can get to like day 14, even 21, and then I get bored or I don't know what, and I relapse.

I didn't thoroughlly read this thread, it's from 2011, but I skimmed it, and 'desperatetoclean' seemed to enter wd's, and just couldn't handle it (with many other issues).  I, personally, have handled it maybe 80 times, maybe more, I don't know.  I'm 30, wife, two kids, little girls, mildly successful (despite my problem) went to rehab one time when I was 20, heroin, and really have been on and off rx med's for the past 10 years.   Something always brings me back.  Well, I just turned 30, and I'm deciding to quit for good.   I also decided, after reading this thread, that I would document my experience, since normally, I can get through the worst part of withdrawl, which is where most people, including the guy (or girl i can't tell or didnt read close enough) who started this topic, failed.

And really I'm just hoping this helps someone else, while also giving me an outlet to be honest and perhaps document my final time I go through withdrawl.  I think this may help me stay clean.  It's tough for me, I'm able to use, do this double life, and still pull it off because I provide for my family and am relatively normal-looking (from the worlds prospective).  But I lie, constantly, to keep my habit going.  I'm "sick" too much, as I have to D/T all the time.  But I'm not here to focus on me, I want to focus on my withdrawl, as I am on day 2, and go through each day and document how I am able to get through it (which I've done successfully before). Next post...

[willnotjustexistanymore]

so i have been taking pain killers every day for years. I was down to just about 15mg of percocet a day from about 90mg. I hated myself, my life. My whole world revolved around pills,  I realized what a lying, sneaky, piece of **** I became. I used to be a vey sexy woman, and now I look older than all my friends. I never told a sole besides god and my dog. I am ashamed of myself. I am at the end of  day one, I feel no energy and ache all over. i did use the thomas methiod but I mind ****** myself to think i have the flu. I am a cancer surviver so if I cant do this I must be a *****. I have friday saturday and sunday in bed. what can I expect. please be blunt. I do feel like u like and I do have diverticulitis flair ups so this feels like that.