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cathy
Dove
Tiff, I cannot speak of your situation regarding Heroin. My DOC was Vicotin and I was consuming up to 40 vic's a day. I seeked treatment with my wife right by my side and it is because of her being with me that has made me not only clean, but strong enough to fight off urges and the other troubling feelings that come with it. I am on Suboxone and it works wonderfully. It is allowing me to deveoping healthier habits and patterns so that when I am off the Suboxone, I will have a fairly routine CLEAN lifestyle with lots of other thngs that bring excitment and stuff....I will not need the Vic anymore. If you love him, try to help him by seeking treatment. He is going to have to buy into it though and that might be the toughest part for you, having to put up with it until he seriously says; "I'm ready"....I really don't even know if that is the best way to go...you have to find a way that works I guess. But, I would not encourage you to just throw in the towel and kick him out. Try to help him. Make him realize that a woman who did not love him like you do would have kicked him out a long time ago. Make sure he realizes how lucky he is. Maybe that will be enough for him to say I want to get help...I don't know; But good luck t you Tiff.
MikeWith Family
I dont know how old you are. I know when I was in my early 20's I was with my ex husband and he was an alcoholic and drug addict. I wound up pregnant and we got married, but only stayed married a few years. My son is in high school and I have to tell you he has been VERY hurt in his life by a relapse his dad had after 15 years of sobriety (almost all of my sons life at that point) He became homicidal towards his dad and then suicidal all in one day and had to be admitted to inpt treatment for a week due to the "breakdown" so to speak. This is from a child who was emotionally stable prior to watching his dad deteriorate over a period of time from relapse. (he is clean now thank gawd)
If you do not currently have children with him, you really might want to think about if you want to tie yourself up with an addict for life (ie if you got pregnant). Addicts dont get "cured" they "recover" and then they have to deal with what got them there and stay on top of it to stay clean after the initial detox. It's not an easy life by any means. For the addict or the partner.
With that said, and after watching ALL of the above, I became addicted to pain meds after an injury. I know I used the meds to escape some of the above, and all I did was almost cost my son another parent and more heartache. I've got tons of guilt for doing what I did with what I knew. I was so STUPID! I have NO excuse.
If you already have a child then if you want to help him, it's an investment in the child's future. Like Mike said above, recovering people need support, just like we all do.
I just wanted to throw out my story so that you could really think about your future. I didnt listen to anyone when I was young. I had to learn the hard way. (HARD being the operative word here)
I hope your bf does find sobriety and recovery. The life of an addict usually ends in either quitting, dieing, or going to jail. Please take care of yourself. We do care here!
Peace.
Look at this way. No one is going to take care of you but you. You are ahead of the game because you are not married and don't have kids.
Let me tell you -- the lying will not stop. If you let him stay, just be prepared that it can and will most likely happen again.
I can only tell you what I think, having been in the position. My husband has been doing coke a ton and I caught him 3 times, the fourth time kicked him out. But I have two kids ages 2 and 4, so running off isn't as easy. I am 29, so I feel ya.
His first challenge is getting off that s***. It is so addictive and the withdrawal will hurt. Be prepared to be blamed, hurt, frustrated, and driven to your wits end.
By the same token, addicts are NOT a piece of trash and deserve to be thrown out. However, someone can only get clean if THEY want to get clean. And by letting him stay you are enabling him. Basically, you're saying, "Okay, you're screwed up, but you can still live here."
Unfortunately, I went the hard route and kicked him out finally -- and it got way worse before it got better.. He binged and came home high. But we are 10 days coke free, and as sad as that is, at least it's a start.
Try to get him at least to a Narc Anon meeting (google NA meetings). Again, you can't help him if he doesn't want help. Al Anon are meetings that support you.... I haven't been to one yet, as I have so little time, but they are supposed to be good.
I know the NA meetings really helped open up my husband's eyes. Another thing is triggers -- who he hangs out with and where he does it.
But first things first. He needs help. And you need to evaluate if it's worth it to you. :)
Hope this helps!
xo
Lexie
I did ask him yesterday if he would go to a meeting and he said yes, so lets see if he will really go. It really is sad because he is a good person and we get along so well. I just dont understand how he can do this to himself and me. Its comforting know you understand how i feel, yesterday i just felt so alone in this. I cant talk to anyone about it. My family and friends would kill me if they knew what was going on, so i am trying my best to keep it all in but i really think i am gonna have a break down. Also when i see him i look at him and feel so angry, and it is hard not to be short with him. Is that normal? I just want to shake him and make him see what he is doing to himself and me. Am I crazzy?
Last week, I had a sort of "nervous breakdown" and it really scared him. I think he finally realized how it was affecting other people and not just him. But the drugs make you lie. It's just how it is. It's warped logic. They don't see it.
I understand how you feel. I wish I could send you my email if it wasn't posted! I don't know if we are normal... but I definitely sympathize! I keep thinking about it, obsessing, and talk to him about it, he gets frustrated... it's horrible.
Talks about co-dependency, boundries, etc...a great read!!!
Sorry you're going thru this...keep posting!!!
With that said, I still do not think it is a good idea to stay with him unless you want a life filled with chaos, lying, and worry. The other thing I know is that you wont leave until something either really bad happens, or you decide that you cant live like that anymore. He wont quit til he either hits a hard rock bottom or goes to jail, etc. You might want to look up Al Anon meetings in your area. They are the group that deals with the families of addicted people. Just reading your story has brought up hard, painful memories for me from 18 years ago. I feel your pain. Please....try to think of your future. Can you live like this for the rest of your life? If you stay with him, you very well may have to.
I wish my post was more what you want to hear. I know its so hard. Please take care of yourself.
Peace.
Heroin the king of all opiates is not something that you just dabble with to party once in a while.
I would tell him if he wanted to stay and continue the relationship he would have to check into an inpatient drug rehab for a minimum of 30 days.
He wont go for 30 he won't go for 30 minutes I can tell by your post. If he won't do it I would ask him to leave.
I'm not sure how you feel with him but he is lying to you right to your face is that someone you want to build a relationship with?
Is this what you want? Is this realtionship making you happy now? I think you know the answer to this. But it hurts and you're postponeing the inevidable.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND YOUR HEALTH .
It his job on his own to get into recovery , He has to do this because he wants to get clean . Not because you busted him using .
This is not a healthy environment for you ,if he gets clean then go from there but if he truly wants to get clean for a while he needs to be on his own .so he is put everything into getting well .
She is talking about Heroin one of the most addictive drugs in the world.
In many instances Heroin is used with a needle which is stuck into a vein in their body.
This is not someone taking to many Tylenols for a headache this is a dope addict.
If I was married and had kids yes then I would give them all the opportunities to get clean.
A boyfriend are you kidding me? A man is not attractive to me that shoots Heroin lies all the time get very upset when I find Heroin bags in his possession and instead of saying I need to get some help and stop this horrible disease from crippling me but instead just lie some more and get all upset defending their addiction. Sorry but I think your dead wrong I would dump that bum in a NY minute, but that is only my opinion and I respect yours as well.
Ghilly
avis
There is another thing no one has mentioned that could be dangerous to you. Confronting and giving ultimatums to a high person who doesnt want to stop can be PHYSICALLY dangerous. NOTHING is as important as his heroin right now. Not even himself. If you try to take it from him he could get violent. As I stated before I was married to a hard core coke addict when I was your age. I can promise you it was NOT pretty. Please honey....just get some back up when you put him out, if you are planning that. I am not saying that he definately would get violent but it does happen. He is not in his "right" mind, and anyone or anything trying to stop him from getting his drug is going to make him mad.
Please take care of yourself. This is going to affect the rest of your life if you stay with him, and more than likely not in a good way.
Peace.
There are alot of fish in the sea.........why start out with problems?
Hang tough, and please let us know how you are. Also please remember what I said about confrontations. If he gets mad, get OUT of his way.
*tapping fingers on desk, hoping Tiff is ok*
Yes i am fine. I stopped home on my lunch break at work to see if he was up yet. He was not there so i called him and he acted like nothing was wrong. I asked him if he even read the letter, he said he looked over it real quick! What an *******! Then i told him that he should start making arraingments to go somewhere else because i cant take it any more and that he should go to rehad. he got really mad and said i dont know what the hell i am talking about and he would make other arraingments and hung up the phone on me. I just dont get how he can have the nerve to be mad at me! I just dont get it! And he also said that he was tired of me telling him what he is doing and what he should do. I just hope he is gone by the time I get out of work because i just dont want to face him. But dont worry the people who live up stairs from me will be home so i wont be there with him if he flips.
Hang strong my friend, and please keep us posted. We do care. *hug*
Peace
i am putting my fiance through my addiction and w/d right now and know how much it is affected the trust we have. i also know if i do not stick to my word to get off of this and recover, that trust will be gone and i will lose someone who cares so much about me and is willing to fight through this with me. your bf has destroyed your trust. he needs tough love from you. you have sufferred enough and have to start your own recovery; i know it takes so much strength but it sounds like you are getting there. just as he needs to feel it is time to get over his addiciton, YOU need to realize it is time to treat yourself better as well...no one can tell you when that will be. stay strong and remember your worth.
For you, some Alanon meetings would be great. Also some co-dependency counseling. You need to be strong and stop supporting his choice to kill himself.