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Looking for tips and just overall support
by Bamnuts, 10 hours
I know I am not the worst addict on this page and I finally hit rock bottom the other day when my wife says I have. Changed over the last year (SWIM have been doing Vic's, percs, morphine, and my favorite o contin for 2 years now).
I am a loving father of two 9 yr and 5 yr old daughters. I can't lose them and my awesome HOT wife! I make pretty good money and we Are struggling finincially. I rationalize it is not because of the habit then I reluctantly did the math and saw how much money I have WASTED in the last 2 years. Then guilt sets in. I am at the lowest of lows. I was a former world class athlete and even competed at the 1996 us olympics. My brother and I had a gym and it closed 4 months ago. I wAs at least able to workout and keep my body in shape. From the gym closing 4 months ago.....I have gained 40 lbs and cannot even see in the night airn see my privates (without a mirror). My fears are dying early for my kids, my wife leaving me, and losing all my nice things In life (house cars, etc....the morale of the story is I quit. COld turkey (my last pill was Saturday at 7pm). It is now 9:13 as I type And I took enough immodium to stop the diarea. Now the problems are depression an guilt along with insomnia from shakey legs. I have read a lot of sites and everyone says to use benzos for sleep.......why doesn't anyone reccomend ambien?
Is it bad for u? I M on hour 50 of wd and started a diet today. ( I weighed in at 295.4 ). That was rock bottom along with wasted money. The other problem I think I am going through is alchol wd. I don't use alcohol without a opiate with it........I say what is the point? AlcOhol is not my drug of choice ......I just use it to maximize my opiate buzz. I don't know but maybe I am going throough a double withdrawal. I M just seeking for help with suggestions and support. I need to "right this ship" and support will help me. I have not told anyone my demons I just want to exorcise t
hem. I look forward to comments And support!
Take care!
Please dont use. Please it will set you back further. I promise. I am almost 40 days clean. I see and read what your going thru. I was on oxy for almost three years. It took me two months ro get real with myself. Two weeks of sitting on rhe fence. Then i found this site. I read for two days and cried. I saw myself in everyones post. I am a oxy junkie. I am a oxy addict. I loved loved the oxy high feeling etc. Then one day my drug changed me. I went from feeling great to feeling awful. I went from tons of energy.... You know the kind of energy that superheros have to slurred speech so darn sleepy feeling blah... No fun then depression to try to chase the dragon. And then i dug deep deep down and didnt like what i saw. Where was me? What is left of me? Who am i? Whats wrong with me? All kinds of deep.soul searching questions. And oohh did i argue with myself. I argued every minute for 15 days or more. It was the worst thing i ever said outload.....i am an addict. I am a sick person who wants to be well and whole. I deserve a life. I like me. I am me. And this is me. Sorry to ramble so much. Just know i am you and you are like me and by courage truth and knowledge we you me will overcome this horrible disease. Sending you a big bama welcome southern hug. Now go get yourself back. Remember who you were before this mess and who you still are after the mess. After every storm they replace the old with new. Same with you.
A 20-40 mg OC WILL set you back!! Don't do it!! You are through the worst part! Keep going!!! Benzo's will likely make the depression worse - they are downers!! I recommend Benydral instead - I'm not a doc, just experienced. AGAIN, YOU ARE THROUGH THE WORST - KEEP GOING!!
Ativan is a benzo like Xanax. It's given to "offset" alcohol withdrawal. I don't know how much you drink but,man,I'm telling you,talk honestly about the amount of your use with your doctor...seriously.
I didnt read all the responses but also ask ur Dr to call n Clonidine.Its a bp bed that helps w/a ton of opiate w/d symptoms.U could ask for valium instead of xanax or klonapin there much longer lasting and not as strong as xanax.ur doing great and u r n the deep of the w/d right now.PLEASE stay connected uses.Its helped me stay clean almost 8months now.
Hey Bam,
I read your story and it is was a lot like mine. I was a great athlete, been very successful career wise and have an amazing family.
The truth of the matter is, 3 years ago I got clean from pills after a few years of use after an accident. I went about 6 months and then occassionaly would use. This behavior eventually led to using every day. Now for the past 2 years I have struggled to stay sober. I will go a week or few weeks, then use for a week or a few weeks. It is a sh****merry go round to be on.
I wish 6 months ago, 1 year ago I would have been good enough to myself to just stop using and start my recovery. In the beginning the mental part will kick your a** for about 30-90 days, but it gets better every single day. If you still have access to pills at home, through the doctor, though friends, you will cave and you will use. I wish you all the luck.
Right now, try and stay busy, get out of the house, go for a drive, listen to music, but whatever you do don't use.
I read your story and it is was a lot like mine. I was a great athlete, been very successful career wise and have an amazing family.
The truth of the matter is, 3 years ago I got clean from pills after a few years of use after an accident. I went about 6 months and then occassionaly would use. This behavior eventually led to using every day. Now for the past 2 years I have struggled to stay sober. I will go a week or few weeks, then use for a week or a few weeks. It is a sh****merry go round to be on.
I wish 6 months ago, 1 year ago I would have been good enough to myself to just stop using and start my recovery. In the beginning the mental part will kick your a** for about 30-90 days, but it gets better every single day. If you still have access to pills at home, through the doctor, though friends, you will cave and you will use. I wish you all the luck.
Right now, try and stay busy, get out of the house, go for a drive, listen to music, but whatever you do don't use.
I'm concerned more about the alcohol...talk with the Doctor about that today....you may need to be on Ativan for a bit...be honest though....
Well...no. It's the mental stuff getting you right now. That's why we always urge some kind of recovery care: AA,therapist,addictionologist...something. It really helps. You also need to DO something!!
Work out. Go for a drive. Clean the yard. Empty the attic! HAHA! Keep busy....
Work out. Go for a drive. Clean the yard. Empty the attic! HAHA! Keep busy....
do you want to quit for good? change your life? be free from the substance abuse? if the answer is yes, get rid of the pills.
look for a na/aa meeting. keep yourself busy. yes you will have cravings.
you have to work through them.
look for a na/aa meeting. keep yourself busy. yes you will have cravings.
you have to work through them.
In terms of detox center. My family would kill me! And they would be embarrassed plus I can't take that time off work. If they knew they would fire me!
20 mg or 40 of oc? Im on the bubble and I know the physical is behind me (except for lethargy). What to do.... What to do?
20 mg of what? It won't set you back physically BUT the point of detox is to detox from all those chemicals!!
Force fluids and I mean a lot! Protein and decent food!
I'm wondering if a detox center would be better for you AND rehab. In the long term, it's rehab that helps the mental ambush! No doubt this is really hard and you've fallen down. You can get back to what you had...these first days are very hard!!
Force fluids and I mean a lot! Protein and decent food!
I'm wondering if a detox center would be better for you AND rehab. In the long term, it's rehab that helps the mental ambush! No doubt this is really hard and you've fallen down. You can get back to what you had...these first days are very hard!!
This is no overnight cure. We've all looked for that.
I know you don't want to hear this but the truth is that you didn't get sick overnight and you won't get well overnight. It takes time for the mind and body to get well again.
I don't know how much alcohol you were drinking but it could be you are going through withdrawal from both. Alcohol withdrawal, unsupervised, can be dangerous. Go to the ER if you feel anything outside the normal withdrawal symptoms that you are feeling now.
I have to suggest that you wait a week or so on that diet. Exercise will help you now but the diet part is probably not such a good idea. You are forcing a lot of changes on your body at once. I know you want to get there but you need to give in and give it time.
Keep posting and stick around.
I know you don't want to hear this but the truth is that you didn't get sick overnight and you won't get well overnight. It takes time for the mind and body to get well again.
I don't know how much alcohol you were drinking but it could be you are going through withdrawal from both. Alcohol withdrawal, unsupervised, can be dangerous. Go to the ER if you feel anything outside the normal withdrawal symptoms that you are feeling now.
I have to suggest that you wait a week or so on that diet. Exercise will help you now but the diet part is probably not such a good idea. You are forcing a lot of changes on your body at once. I know you want to get there but you need to give in and give it time.
Keep posting and stick around.
At the beach
I was hoping for an overnight cure. I am on day three and just called my Dr. to come in for my anxiety. I just feel shame, guilt, nervousness, and an overall wirhdrawl from everyone (even my family). I cant wait till I can just lay down and sleep. I don't think I should tell him that I am on day three of WD. Like I said earlier I don;t know if this is alcohol or opiate withdrawal. I can.t even concentrate and fear my boss or an account will call. See I am rambling from topic to tpoic.....I can't function right now.
I was hoping for an overnight cure. I am on day three and just called my Dr. to come in for my anxiety. I just feel shame, guilt, nervousness, and an overall wirhdrawl from everyone (even my family). I cant wait till I can just lay down and sleep. I don't think I should tell him that I am on day three of WD. Like I said earlier I don;t know if this is alcohol or opiate withdrawal. I can.t even concentrate and fear my boss or an account will call. See I am rambling from topic to tpoic.....I can't function right now.
Yes, the Xanax definitely makes you feel real groggy the next day, so you do pay a price for doing it this way.
Good job on the 20 min workout. Keep that up.
The thomas recipe on medhelp doesn't include xanax. Defintely concern for cross addiction. The xanax makes you feel groggy and hungover the next day. Keeps you too foggy.
Best to use natural. You can't expect your body to function "as normal" during detox or even within the first few months. Your brain chemistry needs to repair itself. This takes time.
Exercise is very important in this process.it also helps with the anxiety and depression issues.
You didn't become addicted over night and patience is important during the detox.
Stay positive.
The thomas recipe on medhelp doesn't include xanax. Defintely concern for cross addiction. The xanax makes you feel groggy and hungover the next day. Keeps you too foggy.
Best to use natural. You can't expect your body to function "as normal" during detox or even within the first few months. Your brain chemistry needs to repair itself. This takes time.
Exercise is very important in this process.it also helps with the anxiety and depression issues.
You didn't become addicted over night and patience is important during the detox.
Stay positive.
Hi, I have used, and always recommend the Benzo's only for detox, because they have worked very well for me both times. I use them for about 9 or 10 days during detox for sleep, and then I am done with them, before I also become addicted to the same
Ath the beach
I am following the Thomas recipe and it says to take benzos? Nobody on here mentions ambien but I KNOW I would not have made it this far without! At 7pm EST will be my 72 hour reunion of opiate freedom. What is killing me is the depression! I forced my self to get up today and workout for 20 minutes too. Now I just want time to expire so I can try to sleep again. The seconds last for minutes and the minutes .......hours. I appreciate all that reply because it obviously keeps my mind occupied. I don't feel like doing ANYTHING.
I am following the Thomas recipe and it says to take benzos? Nobody on here mentions ambien but I KNOW I would not have made it this far without! At 7pm EST will be my 72 hour reunion of opiate freedom. What is killing me is the depression! I forced my self to get up today and workout for 20 minutes too. Now I just want time to expire so I can try to sleep again. The seconds last for minutes and the minutes .......hours. I appreciate all that reply because it obviously keeps my mind occupied. I don't feel like doing ANYTHING.
Hello and welcome. Sorry your first post got overlooked.
Look at the thomas recipe on the bottom of the page.we don't recommend any benzo use. Xanax or ambien.
Go natural sleep aids with valerian root and melatonin.
Stay hydrated. Move around. Take walks.
Hot bath with epsom salts for aches. Magnesium and potassium tabs and bananas helps with rls.
Counseling and support groups such as na/aa will help tremendously.
Think positive you can be this demon
Look at the thomas recipe on the bottom of the page.we don't recommend any benzo use. Xanax or ambien.
Go natural sleep aids with valerian root and melatonin.
Stay hydrated. Move around. Take walks.
Hot bath with epsom salts for aches. Magnesium and potassium tabs and bananas helps with rls.
Counseling and support groups such as na/aa will help tremendously.
Think positive you can be this demon
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