Methadone for 15 years and Why a Clinic would leave it up to the Addict?

[angie]

I have someone very dear to me that has been on Methadone for 15 years to keep clean from heroin. My thoughts is that it just helped prolong her situation and helping her not reach a bottom. There are even some states that will give it to her free. Florida however does not give it free. It is pretty costly. Yes, I have read all about how it keeps them off the streets. They do not offer any real counseling or really try to help her get off this stuff. Why would a methadone clinic keep someone on the program for so long? I know several people within the program that has been on it for 10+ years. Why would a program leave it up to a drug addict to reduce their dose or get off the program? There was another question posted about Hepatitis C and the effects of Methadone. I would like to just say that the medication that could help the Hepatitis C is blocked due to the use of Methadone. Only quoting the Doctors. Yes, I probably sound Angry. 90% of the time I am not. I attend Alanon and with the help of a greater power than my self I keep the focus on me, Take it One day at a time, Letting go and Letting God.

Thank you for listening to my questions and my thoughts.

[Patrice]

Angel

Why must you flame me!!!  I kniw I am an addict, and I know that an addict kies, I lie a lot.  This is one thing that is not a lie.  The ONLY drugs that I abuse is opiates!!!!  I do take 1 capsule of restoril 30mg at night for sleep.  I take doxipen 75mg once a day for clinical depression, I take xanax for very occasional panic attacks. I got a prescription of 30 and I have 27 left, that was a while back.  I have taken soma only if my back is in severe pain, who the hell do you think you are *******?  I am not trying to make anyone feel sorry for me, I am only asking Dan for advice, and I intend to take his advice!  If you are a recovering drug addict, I feel sorry for you being jugdmental to me, we in NA are taught to be kind, understanding and non-jugdmental.  I think you are the person who followed me from the vicodin board, and even posted one of my post from here to there.  You are a sick pathetic human being, and leave me the f%%k alone.  If you dont like what I have to say dont read it!!!   I will not listen to your ravings again.  You can eat your words when I get my life back togrther.  And most of all, I thought this was a forum where flaming is not allowed.  You broke the rules by doing so to me, Angel, or whatever your name is today

Patrice

[J.B. to Brian and Vicky]

Wow!  Now I see what you were talking about in some of your last posts.  It sounds like this Angel has issues more serious to deal with than addiction! Just stick to your guns, hon, and things will get better for you.  I know that you are serious about recovery.  Remember that you already have had 12 years of recovery and that will be your greatest asset in dealing with all that is going on in your head.  Take all those hateful comments with a "grain of salt".  Keep your chin up!

[Kristina To Patrice]

Patrice? Why is my questions to you "flaming"? I'm simply asking you to stop your lies. I don't think that is inflammatory at all.
Am I insulting you? If I am then I guess I'm a rude  person. Let me ask you this. Don't you think it's insulting to people when you lie constantly about yourself? Don't you think that is  disrespectful? I do.See   you can't logically answer these questions because you know  full of **** you are.Maybe you just can't remember half the  **** you say.I  don't know .
I know  one thing is for sure. With all the  medication you take, and shooting up herion, you will be dead soon.
I only wish you would realize bullshitting and sob stories  will not help you.Put away your computer, and check yourself into a detox or a mental hospital for about a year.Good luck! Angel

[Patrice]

Hi JB

Thanks for the post in defence to me.  I do not intend to let people who are like this Angel let me down.  I have read some of her posts and know whats up with her.  One think I do have to say in defence of myself is that I never had or never will go on a board and tell people to lie about getting drugs, in fact people have written me and asked me questions about how to obtain drugs, and I will not answer them!!  Not because I am some goody two shoes, but because I dont want someone to land up like me.  I promise I wont let her get to me, and yes I am going to get back on track!!!  I know NA has saved my life over and over, and II know I can do it again,I will get my recovery back, one day at a time, I did think that flaming was not allowed here, but I can deal with it.  I have delt with much more BS in my life, than one little girl trying to f^&k with me.  To Angel, hon, get the help you need to get better, we all know that in ANY 12 step program we dont judge otherpeople so get working on your steps before you ruin your life.  Remember we are all addicts and we can fall.  I have seen people with far more time than I fall, but we pick up and dust ourselves off, and start over again.  We never lose what we have learned we only lose the time we have, and we can get it back.  I am a firm believer that as long as we have a breath left in our bodies, we have hope to get into recovery once again.

Take care and God bless!!

Patrice

[Kristina To Patrice]

Patrice,
Why  don't  you really read the post, you react to my post in such an angry way. You know  why? The truth hurts you so much, you become hostle. You say  you  lie huh? But you're not lying
about this.Hmmmm   funny, if you lie so much  why would  you
expect anyone to take you seriously? Patrice , yes you are an addict , that much we know. The problem really here is  you're  so full of **** about  what you take, and how much, and ultimately  you want people to tell you it's okay to abuse these drugs.I'm  so sick of you  and you're stupid stories about  getting clean  , just  shut  up already  and do it. You are all over evey message board concerning online pharmacies.You post
to people on how  to lie about consults and telling docs what they want to hear  so you can get your drugs.  It's time for you to move on Patrice and get on with getting  sober  and stop your bullshit stories.  The  poor people on this addiction board have been conned by you already. If people think I have bigger "issues" it's because I do.  My issue here is liars.
I have a big problem with liars.Thats all , nothing more nothing less.  Angel

[Patrice]

Hi Tom

Believe me, I know without AA there would be no NA today, I have read the Big Book and know it is a wonderful book, very spirtual, my only problem with it, is it need to (IMHO) to be updated.  It is a little too relious for me, and thats just for me, not anyone else.  And there are stories in there about addicts hence "Belle of the ball" and "Doctor alcoholic addict" Thank you for reminding me, I will take it out and read it tonight.  Have a great weekend!!!

Take Care

Patrice