Plenty of people are sober and clean but not in recovery. There is an absolute difference. Drinking and drugging are a result of the disease...not the cause. We have to have recovery care in place to change the actions we do every day that contribute to the disease. We have hundreds of thoughts every day that can lead to relapse. The key is getting into aftercare and recovery so we can learn how to deal with these thoughts. So, I agree Avisg, relapse has no place in recovery. It's a symptom of addiction. That first thought isn't our fault...the first action is.