Similarity of fentanyl (Duragesic) to heroin. . .

[Kurt Cobain]

Hey everyone. . .just a discussion-opener and thread-starter for the day.  I've read several posts from folks here who have used/are coming off of Duragesic (fentanyl) patches of varying strengths.  Seems like most of these folks, however, have had them prescribed for legit reasons and have used them as directed.  My question is, is anyone else familiar with the NON-approved methods of using these patches (that would include mainly ingeston)?  Back in "the day", I would either cut them up or place them intact inside my mouth, and then. . .over and out (to the point of underestimating strength once and almost getting killed several times while driving home).  As I understand, medical fentanyl can actually be stronger and more "pure" than garden-variety smack, especially the way I took it.  Any other opinions/experiences would be interesting to hear. . .some of the things I did to get my hands on this drug are extreme, and I am most certainly NOT proud of any of them. . .seems very similar to heroin as far as the "drawing power" it had to get me to do things I would have otherwise (and now) find reprehensible.  Also, I've had bad dreams the last several nights about using everything under the sun, and so am a little shaken up these days -- especially since I've had no CONSCIOUS cravings for the **** in what seems like forever.  Can anyone else relate?  

Lastly (I promise). . .what is the "DA" BBoard I've heard several here refer to (and where?)  Judes, good to hear from you, maybe you can help with this. . .more later.  Thanks to everyone in advance. . .

Peace,

Kurt

[bmac]

GRrrr ossssSS!

[doner]

Thanks for responding. Im kinda waiting for the witdrawls to slap me in the Face. If this should happen I will return to my 15mgs and start slower. The bordom is just killing me thats all. And it is just a test. As I said if I go into full boar wds Ill up my dose. No need to be sick. Just cant tell ya how much better I feel taking those vitamins. I think addicts forget to take care of their bodies because all they focus on is the pills. I think just replenshing some of the missing ingredients to make a body work can do wonders for anyone. Again thanks for the advice and Ill keep you posted on wether I get that slap.
Take care and much respect to you,Melissa

[Inmytree]

I agree that you have done a great job Jack Daniels. I am also about a week clean but you mentioned you are also going to meetings EVERY day?? Dude, you gotta be my hero man. Going to meetings and Jonesing? It was about all I could handle to drag my sorry ass to the bath tub. Keep rockin!

[KimH]

Hello everyone! I am hoping that Goldie 52 reads this or someone will get this info to her if I can't but stopping xanax cold turkey is EXTREAMLY DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEALTH AND WELL BEING!I was on a much smaller dose a few years ago and tried to quit cold turkey and had a sezior! I then found out how dangerous and chance of being fatal this is! Please talk to a doctor before quiting cold turkey, at least the xanax! I (after getting out of the hospital) had a plan with my doctor to cut down 1/2 a pil a month. It may seem like a long time, but the withdrawel was very minimal. I have been off them for about 2 1/2 yrs. Go slow with them. Also, the golden one, I am getting off ultram right now. I am so not looking foward to this, I have tried like 15 times already on my own, now I have a doctor involved who is helping me. I have clonidine to help with wd but I am still adjusting from like 15 a day (or so) to 6 and even that is going to suck as you surely know.I think for me the best way is going slow with help and support. I have got off heroin (4 1/2 yrs), and methadone ( went to a friggin clinic every day for 2 yrs! The great liquid chains! I've been off that 2 1/2 yrs, perscription drugs (God knows how long), OH, and I haven't drank or did yayo(coke for anyone who doesn't know) for 4 1/2 years. I did get arrested, lost my home, family, self, and just about everything! You can get it back! Even if you do go that far, you can always turn back! Lots of prayer, meetings, connection with people like this! I just finished a semester in college and got all A's! I don't know how, probably because I lost my job too, so besides taking fistfuls of ultram, that is all I had to focus on. I have been delivered out of many a mess, but I'm a dumb F@%K that has to always get into something else (although I had no idea that they were addictive until it was too late). Next with my very addictive personality, I'll get addicted to motrin (cigarettes and coffee). At least the wd won't be so bad. Sorry I'm rambling! bye KimH

[mrmichael67]

I agree wholeheartedly.  I always recommend to people to at least take a multi-vitamin during detox.  It is so true we don't exactly eat right.  I should start to take my own advice as well.  I hope you continue to feel well.

[theGolden1]

Hi ... I hope you see this message. The thread up on top was full. Your pup most likely has worms .... You need to get him to the vet with a stool sample ASAP! Mine had two different kinds of worms. Also ... even though he is a baby, don't give him milk.
That can cause diarhea. I wouldn't give the dog immodium. If you have a vet .... call them. They usually help us over the phone. There are anti-diarhea meds you can get in your local pet store.
Good luck with your Pooch ..... Goldie