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Sub Experience
Hey Guys,
So far, I have only tried to help folks in this community. I now however need help with a dumb question. Anyone that has detoxed from Sub, Please tell me how long my body will continue to hurt and I'll be Skeenchy (stretchy). This is not my first Rodeo. I've done w/d from Methadone, Heroin and other nasty things. Sub just seems to be the gift that keeps giving.........I regret the day that I started it.
I am day 11 now with 0mg. after 1.5+ years from 16mg daily to 3mg. to 0. I am daily drinking myself into a stupor to deal with the pain and maybe sleep four hours (Iknow...not good) and Momma is rightfully worried about it. Question is, how much longer can I expect the pain and Skeenchies? Maybe gone by this weekend? Thanks. Bless Ya'll.
So far, I have only tried to help folks in this community. I now however need help with a dumb question. Anyone that has detoxed from Sub, Please tell me how long my body will continue to hurt and I'll be Skeenchy (stretchy). This is not my first Rodeo. I've done w/d from Methadone, Heroin and other nasty things. Sub just seems to be the gift that keeps giving.........I regret the day that I started it.
I am day 11 now with 0mg. after 1.5+ years from 16mg daily to 3mg. to 0. I am daily drinking myself into a stupor to deal with the pain and maybe sleep four hours (Iknow...not good) and Momma is rightfully worried about it. Question is, how much longer can I expect the pain and Skeenchies? Maybe gone by this weekend? Thanks. Bless Ya'll.
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Are you okay Jaybay? I am very concerned about how you are holding up......sara
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Hi Wolf.......What was the reason for you being on the sub and what was the reason for stopping it?
Wolf, didn't you take other pills to sleep that 17 hours? WOW, that is a long time to sleep and surely more than your body needs naturally.
Please don't misunderstand, I am not trying to jump on you or anything but we are hearing different sides to the story and the pills you seem to have taken are heavy duty and the drinking?
I don't know what is going on but I wish you well. All of this is very confusing for me and I have to beg out. Again, I wish you the best.
Please don't misunderstand, I am not trying to jump on you or anything but we are hearing different sides to the story and the pills you seem to have taken are heavy duty and the drinking?
I don't know what is going on but I wish you well. All of this is very confusing for me and I have to beg out. Again, I wish you the best.
Day 22 w/no Sub or Narcotics. Just an update for ya'll.........
I called the Doc's office yesterday and told them what was going on (sleeping 3-4 hours nightly, not eating for 24-36 hrs, mental and physical pain).
They advised that I come in immediately or go to the ER. I went to the Doc's office and was quickly was seen by an associate. BP out the roof, almost fell off the scale shaking while getting weighed. But hey, I lost 10 lbs! The associate offered Subutex or other addictive pain relieving Narcotics all of which I flatly refused....We settled on some strong sleeping, muscle relaxing, and more Clonodine for meds (Jay is doling them out) which are helping a great deal. I've slept over 17 hours since this time yesterday and Ate a lot of stuff! I'm still in pain but not as bad and thank God for sleep. I was beginning to have audio hallucinations (sleep depravation can cause this as well as visual ones). I know this from Veteran friends which part of their training was same.....
On a distraction note. Music! I've tried to play guitar but I'm too screwed up to even strum a chord, SO I sat just outside our garage in the Sun and roasted myself yesterday listening to Loud angry metal music which suited my mood just fine and was quite distracted and forgot about pain for a while (garage is equipped with cable TV and a good sound system....) I did however consume way too much Beer.
I think I will try Robert Earl and some Texas stuff today and attempt to reduce consumption. Two Step, get past one issue and deal with the next.....Thanks for all of your support! More to follow...........
I called the Doc's office yesterday and told them what was going on (sleeping 3-4 hours nightly, not eating for 24-36 hrs, mental and physical pain).
They advised that I come in immediately or go to the ER. I went to the Doc's office and was quickly was seen by an associate. BP out the roof, almost fell off the scale shaking while getting weighed. But hey, I lost 10 lbs! The associate offered Subutex or other addictive pain relieving Narcotics all of which I flatly refused....We settled on some strong sleeping, muscle relaxing, and more Clonodine for meds (Jay is doling them out) which are helping a great deal. I've slept over 17 hours since this time yesterday and Ate a lot of stuff! I'm still in pain but not as bad and thank God for sleep. I was beginning to have audio hallucinations (sleep depravation can cause this as well as visual ones). I know this from Veteran friends which part of their training was same.....
On a distraction note. Music! I've tried to play guitar but I'm too screwed up to even strum a chord, SO I sat just outside our garage in the Sun and roasted myself yesterday listening to Loud angry metal music which suited my mood just fine and was quite distracted and forgot about pain for a while (garage is equipped with cable TV and a good sound system....) I did however consume way too much Beer.
I think I will try Robert Earl and some Texas stuff today and attempt to reduce consumption. Two Step, get past one issue and deal with the next.....Thanks for all of your support! More to follow...........
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My apologies in the response delay, regrettably I havent been able to hang around here as often as I would like or should have, but I received Vicki's message. (Thanks as always Vicki!)
Im in Kuwait right now, on my way out the door to the airport to head back to the US tonight, so Ive got to try and make this short... But I will be sure to check in and post back when I get back home tomorrow.
Sub is a real bear to kick, and unfortunately you are finding out right now just how much this is to be true. The tricky thing about it, which is most often misunderstood is that the degree of withdrawals experience is directly correlated to the severity of your previous active addiction (DOC, Frequency of use, and number of previous attempts to quit)
When we begin sub treatment it pretty much stops withdrawals in their tracks, and while it is true that it has its own set of withdrawals, there are studies in the works to show that the vast majority of what you are feeling now is a rebound withdrawal.
Theres some bad news and some good news here.
The bad news is... you may be in for a few more rough weeks. This is such a personal and individual experience that its hard to guage exactly how long.
I was on sub for 2.5 years at 16mgs. When I jumped off, my final dose was 3mgs, and my withdrawal process peaked at 10 days, layed steady for another week, and then VERY slowly got easier over the course of another 2 weeks. By the 4 week period I was able to sleep in 5-6 hour increments uninterrupted, and only had short bouts of that "Ants under the skin feeling"
About 1.5 months after I was feeling as good as new, so the good news is, it shouldnt get any worse, and most certainly will get better!!! Today I have been off Suboxone for 163 days, and I am loving every minute of it!
The meds that your new doc prescribed will help quite a bit, just be sure to take them as directed.
As far as the alcohol.... indeed it is a bad idea. Your brain is a storm of neuro chemicals all trying to balance themselves out, and adding a Central nervous system depressant into the mix certainly wont make things easier in the long run.
I've gotta jet (Literally) You are doing amazingly well! Hang in there and keep relying on that awesome wife you have there for support. Shes your strongest weapon combined with yourself in your recovery arsenal!!!
I'll be back here later on!
HenryS