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9311644 tn?1403181860

Suboxone no more no more i can do it!!!

I was  on Suboxon  for  2  years and  Finally on Friday  I say  no more!!!!! I am doing  cold  Turkey  from 16 mg. Sunday  was  my first day  I stared filing  bad  and  Today I  just  want to  shot myself.The  worst part is  I have to work and  have  2 kids ..I need to do it  for  them and I need all your  support to make it!!I ordered some Kratom and  looks like  is helping  me  but  not  so much and I do not want  to be depend  on it.
Any other ideas ?
thank you  so much guys  and  just want  to say  I am no American  so some  times my Writhing my be no good:):)
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4810126 tn?1503942735
You won't be 'you' again. You'll be different: wiser & stronger! You'll be able to get in that car & go anywhere but this time you'll be aware of the blessing of it all. Going through this tends to make us more circumspect & grateful for the things that we tended not to think about or took for granted when we were clean. When you feel cr*p just remember the life of possibility that you're opening up for yourself & your loved ones.

(Btw, I love Key West!);))
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Hi, congratulations on getting off subs! 16mg is a lot to jump off so I can only imagine how you must be feeling. But, you're 5 days in already!
I just finished a long taper off of methadone and today is 3wks clean for me!

The vitamins from the Thomas Recipe (listed here on this site), really helped me with my withdrawal symptoms. In particular, the 3 in 1 Zinc, Magnessium, and potassium really helped. Benedryl for sleep, Ibprofren or Tylenol for aches and pains, lots of water, immodium for diareah.
Keep posting for support and good luck!
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9311644 tn?1403181860
it is not  easy every  h I am  just thinking  to call  my Doc  and  ask f or some  Suboxon. But  I need  to stay strong!! The Kratom help  little  but  not  much.
I will go do some shopping today from your  list!1
thank you!!!!
And  same  to U!!!! Congratulation!!
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9311644 tn?1403181860
I am just  afraid  then  using Kratom I am  kidna  cheating .But I did  search on line  foe  hours and  looks  like  if I use it just for  few  days  I should not have  a problem with it.
It is not easy but I have to do it for my Kids!! I do not want  wake up every morning and  first  thing  about the  subs and  feel  better  then  see my   sweet  sons!!! I love  them so much  and  thank you  God they are in my  life!!!
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1855076 tn?1337115303
I'm hopingnsome who've come off subswill chime in.  You're jumping from a big dose.  The upplements in the Thomas recipe will certainly help.  I don't know much about Kratom other than it can also cause dependence so be careful with that.  You sound very convicted about getting off so that's a great start!
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Hey, im almost 7 months off subs, your very brave jumping from 16mg.
In my opinion, i dont think any natural med will help too much because of your high jump.
You would of been good to jump from 1mg or less.
But you didnt so dont worry : )
When i jumped, my prescribing doctor gave me Clonidine ( Non Addictive ) and Valium to take together and this made a very comfortable detox for me.
But beware, Valium is highly addictive, so i only used 5mg a night for 8 days then stopped. I still slept 8 hours a night after stopping Vals.
I believe this may be the only thing that will give you relief as you jumped so high.
Well done for stopping.
You also could go back to your doc and ask for a taper plan off subs.
Please note, this is only my experience of subs and yours may completely differ.
Good luck, be brave : )
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7163794 tn?1457366813
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Hey...and welcome to the forum. I to, did exactly what your doing now, in Jan, 2014. It's going to be hard having to go to work, but it can be done. The following is a list of what I took that helped ease it a bit....BTW...stay away from the benzos while detoxing as they are very easy to get addicted to:
Epsom salts for long hot bathes
Gatorade and water
Immodium a.d.
L-tyrosine from GNC
Gaba 750 also GNC
Magnesium, potassium and a good multivitamin
Motrin (2-3 200mg)
Yeah, I know right now ***** the big one but try not to take anything that u might have to w/d off of later....music, earbuds in my ears, nothing to hard, happy upbeat music! For the leg cramps I found that hylands rls helped but also did some diabetic support hose my husband bought me. I literally jumped from 24 mg to 0 mg in about 1 1/2 weeks, so get ready. It took me approximately 21 days to start feeling anytype of upswing. I don't tell you this to scare u, I'm telling u this to be honest....the subs take longer to get off of over opiates. Good luck to u, post when u feel like ****, and I will be sending u positive vibes!!!
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Avatar universal
I had a good experience with suboxone.i was given 60 per month  and stayed on them for over 2 years most of the time I did,nt do but  8mg a day.iwaned down to 2 mg per day and some days I would forget to take that.i know some hard corers who are on them indefinitely.but its still a drug but it did,nt give a drug effect.don,t know the longterm side effects but I think it is a great drug for people that can,t stop using and ya,ll know a few of them .pease out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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9311644 tn?1403181860
thank you to All!!!  yeas  so far today  is  the  worst!!but I am already here   day5-6  and do not want  to  go back to sub. The  hardest  part is  at work lucky I am I the  office but is  no  fun  talk on the  phone when u feel  like  ****!! I took  some  trazodone  for  sleep  and I think  it help little  5-6hours sleep.
Again thank u  to all  and  Please  God  help me !!!
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1235186 tn?1656987798
Make sure you are staying hydrated and eating small amount s of food every hour or two. Drink protein shakes. Move around as much as possible.
What are you worst symptoms?
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9311644 tn?1403181860
Today is   a  hell!!  I my ask  for  couple days  off  but  won't be easy (Heating and cooling) .So hard  talk to people on the Phone so hard .
4hour past  so just 7-8 more  and I be  at  home.
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9311644 tn?1403181860
My  worst  just no energy for anything. feel so nervous ,my hand  feels like are  connected to  460 volt  outlet.SO far  my legs  are ok. Shaking a lot.
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9311644 tn?1403181860
thinking  to call my Doc  for  some  Valium maybe .
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1235186 tn?1656987798
Where you getting your suboxone from a doctor?
Do you have any left? 16mgs is a very high jump.
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7163794 tn?1457366813
COMMUNITY LEADER
U r right in the thick of it and the shaking and anxiety are normal. Before u gi with the valium please try the gaba 750, or maybe the valerian root first and see how it feels. It doesn't take long for your body to adapt to those benzos and getting those out of your system is gonna suck!!!! Tell your boss u have the flu or stomach bug, ****, start throwing up (shouldn't be too hard) and ask for thurs and Fri off!!!! I didn't leave my bedroom for about 2 weeks....u need some down time to get this done! Thinking of u! Remember, once your done, you will be so proud u did this! Push yourself.....hard!!!
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1235186 tn?1656987798
Are you still using the marathon? That is addictive too.
Getting clonidine ( blood pressure med) from your doctor will definitely
help. It is given very regularly for withdrawal. Low dose of valium could be beneficial, but also addictive.
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1235186 tn?1656987798
Auto correct. Kratom not marathon.
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480448 tn?1426948538
Coming off that dose of Subs is really really rough.  The people who taper down to 0.5mg/day or less do the best coming off.  On the other hand, you've made it several days without any sub, and that's commendable!  

My advice to you is, rather than turning to other addictive medications (ie Valium) or habit forming substances, like Kratom, if this gets VERY rough and you cannot stand it, turn to your doctor for help, with some non habit forming meds like clonidine.  If that route doesn't work, then perhaps going back on a much LOWER dose of subs and tapering down to a VERY low dose (like I mentioned above) before jumping would be the best approach.  You'll still have some level of w/d symptoms, but nothing like you're having coming off 16mg.

Keep up the great work, and keep talking to us!
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9311644 tn?1403181860
just a little  but  looks  like  Kratom  does not  help  .I know  can be  addictive but I won,t  use  it for more then few  days.Just for the worst  WDS.but I can tell u this  it is  hell!!
thank you all again!!
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9311644 tn?1403181860
no no more  for me plus plus  I am  where I am. I know some  people  done it and I  want to be  one of  them. I want  take  my kids  to see  fireworks and if I feel ok I  promise I will take  them  for biggest  fireworks in  our  life!!!!!
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9311644 tn?1403181860
4th of July is  on the  way!!!!
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7163794 tn?1457366813
COMMUNITY LEADER
The above advice is right about tapering to the lowest dose u can handle then jumping but like u said, your in it! Today should be day 6 and u don't want to look back. I totally forgot to mention, but they did above, the protein shakes are a must!!! Your appetite is probably non-exsistant and dehydrating makes u feel way worse than u have to. U MUST get something in your stomach with nutritional value. A total must! Gatorade, drink, drink, drink!!! Can u get some time off from work?
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1235186 tn?1656987798
Ok then we will proceed from here no going back.
Try some relaxing teas, sleepy time, kava tea, make iced tea out of
It and yes some valerian root drops.
Get up when you can and take a walk outside.
Again hydrating is very important, flush out the toxins.
Suboxone has a long half life so it takes much longer to get
Out of your system.
Exercise will help repopulate your natural brain chemistry.
Keep on keepin on.
Keep the faith.
You are doing awesome. Congrats on your clean time and your desire
To get clean.
Debbie
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9311644 tn?1403181860
Time  off will be hard to get .Did  some  running last night  but  after 30 seconds deicide to walk   and  fight with the  mosquitos :)
is hard u know it but  i told my self I need to do it. For  me, my Family and  for  all of u guys  Today is  day  6 and for  me it is like  6 months so I my have a year to go :):)
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