This is Just BS 7/ and a half days Ct

[KRC1959]

I normally have very positive posts, and encouragement to others. It  has been 7 days and 5 hours and everything seems so much better. BUT I cant frigging fall asleep, I cant take this **** anymore, I am so goddam tired but cant frigging fall asleep. This is the kind of **** that makes me want to do whatever the hell I can to sleep. My damn job is physical and I have worked right through WDs, But I am not going one more night waitng until 2 or so to sleep and have to get up at 6, F--K, put me in a goddam coma, I dont care, This is the 7th night of so little sleep and 10 to 13 hours a day at work, I mean what the F is going on here. Give me back the chills, the Flu the foggy head, the frigging 50 hours in the tub, Ill take that any day over not being able to sleep. I went and bought Tylenol Pm and took two along with my normal7.5 milligrams of Valium which Im on for GAD for years, People this is going to make me inf-----g sane. I had to post this or either throw my computer against the dam wall. I might as well just go out to the stables and lie if the stall like a horse, **** I see them all the time napping while there standing up, How come there so lucky. Turn me into a horse. I mean this is the first post that i am just laying this  S on the table,   How in the hell can a person work for 7 days and make it CT, and get through all the other **** and not be able to sleep.I just dont get it. Maybe it would be better if I just went out into the Lunging Arena and let the horses hold the long halter rope around my head an make me run in circles, and I bet I still wouldnt fall asleep. I definitely dont want this to be my Demise. Havent had Sex in a year because of the frigging pills, and I know if I did now, it would propably be like the Fast and Furious and then Maybe I could fall asleep,I would just say, No cuddling, I am out. Had to get this out, Im just going to go out now on the ranch and see if the Owls will let me hang with them, and maybe ill catch a chicken, or rat or whatever the hell they eat.,,,  Just venting big time, Sorry Sorry Sorry.                              JayDean

[beachtowel]

Nothing to be sorry about sleep is one this us opiate addicts really suffer from..........
At seven days you are very close to the all nights sleep, I say it will be tommorrow you will sleep good.......
remember when your tired go to bed don't stay up till certain time then go to bed you will just lay there........

Sleep distortions is a big time side effect to quitting opiates your almost there I promise you.....

[anotherfinemess]

meanwhile back at the ranch,  JayDean is howling at the moon.  I agree the lack of sleep is the worst w/d symptom of all but, like beach said, you're almost there.  Don't let this be your undoing.

[alexandra fox]

Oh you poor bugger, what a b i t c h of a situation - I don't have any solutions (since you are already working physically like a dog) so the only thing I can say is to hang on. You have persevered so well, you have pushed yourself and have been my inspiration and my motivation too - the darkest hour is before the dawn they say - the weekend is coming, do you get a day off? Maybe you will be able to catch a nap during the day?

I am so sorry that its that bad. Hang in there mate.

[allaboutmary]

Hey there.  I am so sorry your not sleeping . I agree it is the worst part of it. I would have rather had the ***** another month, to have gotten sleep sooner.  Beach is so right, I think it was like day 8 before Magi got a good nites sleep. (can't go by me because I didn't sleep even before pills). Now she is sleeping like a baby and it pisses me off. lol    It's gonna come , it really will. You will probably sleep this weekend away. Hang in there !  I am sending the sandman back to your house, he should be there any minute.  Hang in there bud !    Mary

Go to sleep,..... go to sleep,..... go to sleeeeep Jaaaay Deeeean. ( I am singing)

[flmagi]

I feel so bad for you. I understand how your feeling. I had to take the tylenol PMs too, but had to take about 3-4 to knock me out. Take them about 1 1/2 hours before bedtime with your valium.  Are you taking the Valariun root too? That may help some too. Beach is right, tommorrow night you will sleep. But be preparred, you may sleep 2 nights good then one not so good. But the good nights will start coming more often and the bad less. I took the PMs almost every night...just in case. I was so scared I wouldn't sleep. Around day 14  i stopped and really haven't needed them. I get about 5-7 hours sound sleep every night (normal for me). Matter of fact, I sleep so sound now, I've almost peed the bed!    So, hang in there, your only a day away. I'm wishing on you 8 hours of comatose type sleep.
Now, if you don't start sleeping at night soon, look in the mirror and check if your growing fur and fangs. If you are, your dealing with a whole different problem.  lol
Peaceful nights to you.
Magi

[natalile]

vent away hun that's what were here for if it means you dont go back rant & rave all you want to we can take it. Your sleep parrent will come back promise nat xxx hang on in there

[flmagi]

ssshhhhh! Jay is sleeping. Be very quiet.  LOL

[KRC1959]

OK its 7.00 now in the morning, Am up and running, and just came over to say, Good Morning Everyone, I appreciate everyones response from Beach down through to Magi, Feel Ok, As IM the  type that once Im up and going, no matter how tired I get the job done. Rereading my posts makes me feel a little embarrassed, but oh well. On Day 8. I will post again in a while on break, and make it a positive one. You all are too good,  BY the way, the Owls told me I was to big to sit  up on the barn rafters with them, so I just went outside and started yelling and scared all thier food away, They might try and swoop me today, HAVE A GREAT DAY                                 JayDean

[jenny8575309]

I haven't taken vicodin in over a month and I still cannot sleep...  Did they tylenol pm's work?  I feel like i'm going nuts w/out sleep, I try to put everything out of my mind, and sometimes I do, but I don't fall asleep, and I don't wake up, I just lay there until my alarm goes off.  What is the deal w/ the insomnia after taking pills?  I used to be sooo goood at sleeping, it was one of my favorite things to do.  Now I can't can't can't do it, Lucky if I get 2 or 3 hours in a night, and as soon as I fall asleep, get this.   I 'catch' myself falling asleep, an I wake up , wide awake... f'd up huh?

[KRC1959]

I tottaly can relate Sweetie, If I go a month like this, They will come and put me in a straight Jacket, but then again I would find a way out of it. Every other symptom is basically gone except the leg ache and sleepness. HOW do you do it, IM proud of your MONTH of no Vics. The PMs didnt seem to help, at least thats what I thought, Gotta run back to work, You have a Sweet day Jenny. JayDean

[snowangels]

Hey JanDean- I honestly feel you- I really do- Actually, the BEST sign of some of this- is I do detect just hint of sarcasm and humor mixed together- I truly believe that humor is the best medicine.  I too worked right through detox, put up with all those nasty flu like, foggy symptoms- I lived out on this board to help me through- and I feel great, with a clear head and all, but I too have the same as Jenny-haven't used in over 3 weeks now, and actually I can fall asleep but EVERY single night- and I do mean EVERY night- I wake up 3 hours later and STARE at the alarm clock- EVEN on the weekends- I watch the minutes tick, I have some restless leg syndroms (syndromes), have to get up, take some ibuprophen, twist and turn (in the morning my bed looks like a tornado ran through it) and maybe get a total of 4 hours total sleep a night if I am lucky- every person is different- But I can tell you on the nights I take Valarian Root I do stay a bit calmer and the sleep is more restful....good luck to you!  I wish you the best!

[frankie165]

What is Valarian Root and where do I find it?  I have been having a hard time sleeping also.  The tylenol PM don't seem to do anything for my RLS-that is what seems to keep me up.  My legs and hips just ache at night.

[snowangels]

Valarian Root is part of the Thomas Recipe- it can be obtained from any health food store- I don't advise taking too much of it- but I take PURE Valerian root extract- and what it does is calms you and helps for a better nights sleep.  During my first 5 days of detox I took 4 a day (during the day) along with 4 L-Tyrosine (health food store-it is an amino acid) and for ME it did the trick- I mean REALLY helped.  The valarian root helps with calm and restful sleep- it does not guarantee HOW long you sleep, but I feel the sleep I do get is very restful.....HOpe this helps.

[road2recovery]

I just found this post, i laughed and i am sorry....is it getting better???
I know , it took forever when i came off of klonpin...I wished i would of died..This time opiated wasnt as bad, but still toss turn and legs moving by themselves..
r2r

[justlikeyou]

7 nights lmfao.

i haven had a good nights sleep in 7 months. it has made me visit a phyciatrist and get anti depressants and ambien. neither of them work, i hate the way the anti depressants make me feel (speedy) and the ambien doesnt work.

im a mess, long term opiate use is a ***** to heal from.



in my personal experience.

[NautyOne]

Valerian 400mg x 2  and even a couple mgs. of melatonin.  I didn't expect much from these, but damn......I take the stuff and they knock me on my A$$   Worth a try......get some.

Nauty.......I hope you sleep soon.  Please don't cave.

[Gobig]

I highly suggest addict approved Trazodone for sleep.  It works!  And, after about a week, you feel nothing in the morning - no hangover at all - nada.  And again, it's addict approved.  And again, it works, it will put you to sleep - fast, and you can't fight it - you must sleep.  It saved me from going crazy from no sleep after I stopped the sub.

[TJack]

I have tried the trazadone and feel so drugged the next day.  But, reading your post sounds like if i hang in there with it that will pass.  
I may have to give it another try.  This no sleep thing is driving alot of us over the edge.  Good luck to all. TJack

[loriegurl]

can you take EXTRA valium. I think, well, I know, I would. take 3 or 4 and sleep like a baby. dont suffer, just take em hun.

[Gobig]

Ok, just to clarify - when I started it, I thought my Dr. was nuts for giving it to me - I felt soooo out of it the next day, like I didn't know what was better - not sleeping or sleeping and feeling like I was asleep all day.  He - and my therapist - told me to hang in there, and bam, like a miracle, that hangover feeling went away after a week or 10 days.  It didn't go away a little - it totally went away.  Now, I don't even need it that much (8 months clean, almost), but when I take it - I feel like new in the morning!!

[mlconnell]

The best thing for sleep in a situation like that is Promethizine. I'm forgetting the Trade name but it's for Nausea. Now not that I've had any this round but back in 2000 when I was W/D from the Lortab it was a godsend. I would take 1 (25MG) (Phenegran) thats the trade name... and sleep for 10 hours and then get up take another one and asta la vista otra vez. It was GREAT. I did not have any this time around. I am on Day 5 and I can't get much sleep either of course I have always had trouble falling asleep. I'm sleeping more than Day 3 or 4 though. Your going to be OK Jaydean and get some Phenegran. Youll be glad you did !!