Veterans Day

[KRC1959]

It is a shame that even though this forum is for people, including me, that no one has even brought up that it is Veterans day. Because most of us, not all, are in a drug induced haze, or detoxing or clean, We forget that a lot of our fellow Americans are out there and have been for 100s of years fighting for us, so we could could be in a country like the USA and get doped up if we want. I am a veteran of the United States Navy and served on an Aircraft Carrier for 4 years, so all of you could sleep peacefully at night and go on being happy on your pills, and not worrying that someone is going to come here and take away your freedom....... But hey, I understand.                      JayDean

[exhostage]

Thank you Veterans,who have served and are serving, for the sacrifices you have made.

[avisg]

exactly and thank you

[Calzy]

Freedom does not come Free!  From one vet to all vets, Thanks

[NautyOne]

thank you for your post...........  and your PS breaks my heart. I am so sorry for your cousin, and the comment about the flag.......so well put.  I hope your Father is safe, well, and comes home soon.  God bless.

Luv,
Nauty.................

[NautyOne]

and then you need to wake up.  Regardless, we are in the real world, real people, real emotions........sometimes its ok to go off topic.  We are human beings not 12 steps or 10 commandments.......stuff happens.

Nauty................................

[what2donow]

I think everyone has a valid point in this.My foster father who had a VERY acctive role in raising me served in Vietnam.He then got out and started working as a sherriff.He was also in the army reserves.My dad has a wife and five children.One day last March we get a call that turns our whole family upsidedown.He was being deployed to iraq in 2 weeks.2 WEEKS!!!My dad is getting up there in years and was very setteled in is job and family.He left us March the 30th.None of us knew if we would EVER see him again.His kids are 17,15,13,11, and 9.Thats not including me.I do think taht this whole war sistuation is bullcrap,but you cant be mad at the solders.It is not there fault.Can you only imangaine if that war was here???My God thank you for all of those brave,selfless heros who are over there everyday.No, it was not my first prority to post happy veterans day here this morning.It was my priority to call my foster mom and my little brothers and sisters whom stayed out of school to honor daddy and tell them how much I loved them.Now with all of that said I do agree with what was said about our president.It is easy for him to give the orders for more people to go but if he were given the order to go would he be able to?Then he might think second thought.Happy veterans day to all the heros who served to protect all of us......Jay Dean how is you detox doing? Love to all you guys!Im sorry this was so long it just hits too close to home to me!

PS my 20 year old couison,who is in kowait, called last week too tell us that his friend that he met over there was 50 yards away from him when he got his head blown off in some kind of attack.His friend was turning 19 in three weeks!That flag that they give his mom is not going to make her feel better!!!

[CATUF]

This Thread make a good case for some of the 12 Traditions of AA & NA, especially:

1.  Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends on AA/NA unity; and

10. NA/AA has no opinion on outside issues . . .

CATUF
Day-888

[NautyOne]

i am only speaking from the mouth of Rumsfool.  he said it.....i didn't

[beachtowel]

I am also a Vietnam veteran who came back to the states a Heroin addict like thousands of others did......We were all kept for 6 months in a drug detox and rehab before allowed to go home......

In 1970 President Nixon because of the Heroin explosion with all the soldiers made them take a drug test and test negative before they could come home from Vietnam.......

On my license plate is says Vietnam veteran and i am proud of it but another right people have living in the US is that they are not obligated to thank all the veterans for there military time because all of us enlisted by our own choice none of us here were drafted.....I just missed the draft when I was in highschool I am remember my senior year was the last day of the draft my number was 535

Deal with getting better and not being mad at people for not thanking you for your military time.....

I hope you start feeling better soon........

[wickedwanderer]

my boyfriend's best friend was in Iraq.  Luckily, he's home safe...but...he thought he was there FOR A PURPOSE.  he was all for the CAUSE when there WAS NOT a CAUSE.  they teach soldiers to believe in whatever they want them to believe in.  

my .02 cents.

[avisg]

my husband is in the military he fights for a country that he loves NOT BECUASE ANYONE HAS BRAINWASHED HIM....... He is about to go to iraq for the second time  away from his family that he loves because he loves this country as well .....
avis

[NautyOne]

I heard it straight from the  horses mouth.  That these men and women must be brainwashed or u can call it basic training, whatever,  but i wish I could remember the exact word Donald Rumsfeld said......but it was a gentle but firm word for brainwashing.

[david0263]

I would think that alot of veterans frequent this board.  I served 15 years in the US Army and would do it again in a heartbeat.  Don't forget that these soldiers know exactly what they are getting themselves into.  Combat is a scary thing and soldiers are trained from the start on how to survive.  It's sad and no one likes to think about what can happen.  In today's military not a single soldier has been drafted.  We have an all volunteer force, which is part of why our military is so strong.  As far as it being BRAINWASHING, I disagree.  It's COURAGE.  God bless each and every soldier who serves now or who has ever served.

Frankie, we are neighbors, I live in Smiths Station.

[allaboutmary]

GROUP HUG !  

[NautyOne]

Hun, no apologies needed on either end.  I believe you are a genuine person as well as I am.  we do have mutual respect here.  we are going thru tough times right now and its bad enough debating politics and religion when we are "normal"  congrats on day 3  that was one of my worst days........after 4 it seems to get a little better.  Let's keep our focus  on our health and wellness and our blood pressure down.  I love lobster too.  Maybe someday when we have a year or so under out belts.......we can throw down over some lobster and a beer.........lol.  take care of yourself hun.

Luv,
Nauty.......................

[flmagi]

wow

[KRC1959]

I am so sorry Naughty, My damn emotions are running high from the WDS. Its now 73 hours, thats 3 days. I apologize and hope you accept it. I am really a genuine person, but like you I was boiling too, and we are all entitled to our opinions. Mine is not the only one correct. I have to respect yours also whether I believe in it or not.  I love LOBSTER                 JayDean

[allaboutmary]

Actually I just came from a lobster fest at the Elk's , so none for me. Thank you.   Just trying to lighten things up. I get very upset when people argue.  

[NautyOne]

thats what they do.......its called  BRAIN WASHING  no one in there right mind could go into combat without being brainwashed.........well, we are both boiling.......free lobster fest to the first 10 people at the KRC- Nauty pot.

[avisg]

thank you , like I said it was just that wrong day ,,,, i am trying to hold my tongue .....

[allaboutmary]

So sorry, and this is not what you need to hear today.  I guess this hits a nerve with all of us. I think the bottom line is we all care and respect all our soldiers. My prayers are with you and your family.

[jenny8575309]

Happy Veterans day KRC.  Hope your feeling a little better today.  Thanks for protecting us.

[KRC1959]

I dont care if they kick me off of this forum, but you need to go Live in another country, You **** me off so much my blood is boiling, You live in the USA and enjoy all its rewards but cry like a goddamn peasant. I was a Navy Seal, andI know what defending a country is like, and I took orders whether I believe them or not, And I have had doubts about certain things, but my duty is to my country. Not Your Country,

[NautyOne]

speaking with someone with a little knowledge of the subject......meaning you frankie....is what i meant..........so frazzled i cant even type.