What to do now?

[needhelpnow]

I've painted myself into a corner with this heroin addiction. I snort and have been doing it on and off for 4 years. The longest I've stayed clean is 8 mos and then 6 mos. Now I've been using for the past 8 mos. and cannot seem to stop for more than 2 days! It gets harder and harder. This disease is progressive for sure. What can I do? I really feel like it will NEVER end. Help!

[Poppylover]

Dear needhelpnow,
Don't give up on recovery, I was into narcotics oxycontin, morphine, & all kinds of pills. I started to snort oxy's ended up taking massive amounts I'm 49yr F chronic pain patient. I was getting drugs from 2 different doctors, Doc shopping, ran out of meds doc's pulled my pharamcy records, cut me right off of drugs!!! Well now my insurance won't cover detox from opiates, I was forced to do the "COLD TURKEY BLUES" thought I was gonna die. It has been a little over a month clean now, and I still have problems but it gets better everyday. I will pray that you will have the strength to do battle w/ the Dragon for it is misery!!!!! E-mail me if you want to talk. You are in my thoughts.
PoppyLover

[needhelpnow]

I appreciate the words. I feel like someone who I was is lost forever. I did everything without fear and lived incredibly in many countries etc. Now I'm reduced to a scared, helpless child. I feel like I cannot win this battle, even though I know I can...I keep putting it off and know what is waiting for me when I try to stop again. How did this progress so wildly out of control? I really appreciate this forum because I dont feel so alone in this. I'm shooting for this weekend stopping. I know it sounds stupid but all I can do is keep trying.

[tobie]

I am in the same boat as you and I know exactly how you feel.It feels impossible to be "normal"agian but you know,it can't be impossible plenty of people have overcame problems just like ours so don't give up!!I have to constantly say that to reassure myself too.I am trying desperatly to a 2 year oxy habit and I'm not likin' it a bit.I've cold turkey'd twice and tapered once and obviously it did'nt work so I've got an appt. with an addictionologist next week in hopes that I might get some help.Anyway,I just wanted to let you know that your not alone and I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.E-mail me anytime(***@****)            GOOD LUCK!!!         TOBIE

[Jerri2]

I know what you mean this sucks big time!I pop pills anbd am on day 4 ct.for the umteenth time!I know it gets better with each day but then the time comes and I'm right back to day 1 again!I feel like I've got brain damage when it comes to sayiny NO to the pills!But alls we can do is pick ourselfes up,dust off and try again!I figure one of these times it has to work!!Take care my friend!!    Jerri

[rodewc]

welcom e  back, missed u

rw/c

[AmberHunter]

heroin is my drug of choice. IV, now i have hepatitis C :-(
i OD'd on heroin just before christmas and almost died, actually, i hear that i DID die but got brought around by CPR, i wouldn't know as i was not "present" at the time.

i have been in inpatient treatment 13 times. the longest i have stayed clean is 8 years. i have had some horrific withdrawls coming off of dope... but when you play with fire...

i have been clean five months the 24th of this month. after i OD'd in december i ended up in the hospital for 3 weeks with pancreatitis. gave me alot of time to think about things.

withdrawls suck ass... they do, there is no changing that. but there really isn't any other way to get clean without going through the agony of withdrawl. i have seen something called the "thomas recipe" on this board and it really seems like a god/dess send. see if you can get someone who has it to post it. then get your butt into some sort of support system. NA or something. if you are allergic to NA check out the work sheets on this board in the smart recovery section. and post here a bunch and get support here. get all the support that you can. you will need it. and remember, we are just as sick as the secrets we keep. that one has kept me honest more than once...

there is another forum where some folks hang out at, if you are interested in it email me at: ***@****. it is different that this type of forum in that it is much simpler to use! not as pretty as this forum but you can post all you want! no waiting in line, lol!!!

good luck!

peace,

amber

[Jerri2]

Thanks for the welcome!I've been up and down and all around on the lovely rollercoaster again!Hows the pup doing?And how about yourself?Sure hope all is well with you!   Jerri

[needhelpnow]

Please, someone post "the Thomas recepie." I've heard alot about it.

[hippy]

the receipe is posted under the heading
ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST.
oxic posted it then i posted how i took it

[suzieneedshelp]

You can do this man..with the help of the THomas recipe, people and a treatment program...inpatient, outpatient, Smart recovery or Na/ AA as i have done.  AS you know...the drug use is only a symptom of our disease so quitting is just the first step in your quest to be free!  This disease took over my mind and my life... i am learning how to think and be functional in life wihtout turning to a quick fix.  I too was very successful..but lost it all in the depths of my disease.  Now i am learning wut really counts in life.  Love is all we need.
E-mail me if ya like.
***@****
Peace and Love,
Suzie

[rodewc]

How are U doin? Pup is fine, and exercisin' her is keeping me fit and off dope too. Nice combo, eh? rwc~

[afriend]

Are you using herion and meth at the same time? Just curious. You may e-mail me at ***@**** with the answer, I'd like to talk!!! if you'd like,,,,,,,,afriend,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Jerri2]

Doing good now!My daughter just had my 8th grandson this morning!!I keep asking for a girl but keep getting boys!!with 4 kids youd think one could have a girl!I'm just like you trying to stay clean!And working!!Talk at you later!!  Jerri

[pepsi4]

Yo all!  I'd like to add something to the "Thomas Recipe" that REALLY helped me a lot.  Try adding a GOOD calcium/magnesium supplement -- one your body can absorb.  I actually used the name brand "CalMax" -- you can buy it online.  You can start taking it before you actually detox.  There's been a lot of research about addicts and low magnesium levels.  I took a dose of the CalMax and actually felt a difference in my aching muscles in about half an hour.  For females especially, I'd reccomend taking it daily, anyway.  If anyone else has used this, let me know how/if it works for you.  Peace to all...

[Chezz2]

It works great. When I was hospitalized recently for my back pain the only thing they found deficient in my bloodwork what my mag levels, which they gave me a pill for.
Good idea, thanks for sharing.
Chezz

[pepsi4]

Chezz2 -- Thanks for replying.  Let's try to get the word out to people.  It's been known for years that people who drink heavily have very low magnesium levels -- looks like it's the same for other abused substances -- it really zaps the magnesium out of your system.  I was reading an article written by an MD that only treats addictions with natural remedies -- he actually gives people intravenous magnesium for 5 days.  It seems as if the muscular discomfort is the worst wd symptom for a lot of people -- this may give some people the edge they need to get through it.  I have noticed a difference between diferent preparations -- calcuim and an acid need to be present in order to absorb the magnesium properly.  CalMax has the calcium, and also vitamin C.  I tried another preparation that worked, but it didn't taste good (vinegar was used as the acid).  I haven't tried taking separate supplements (calcium, magnesium and vitamin C), but that probably works.  My understanding is that calcium gluconate is the best form to use -- but others disagree -- it works for me, so I'm sticking with it. Also, don't bother taking more than 500 mg. of calcium at a time -- your body can't absorb that much -- divided doses are best. Take Care All.....

[Dr. Chezz]

From all the reading I have done on the subject. CORAL CALCIUM is the overall best. That is just what I have read, and I could be wrong.
While passing through the mall today, I saw a sign that GNC now carries it. So the next time I am in there I am going to pick up a bottle or two(since they have that special if you buy one the second is half price).
Its just what I read so who knows. But I do know that low magnesium levels is what causes RLS as well as other things. That is even when you are taking opiates, you can get the overall feeling of your legs just not feeling right. So I am going to pick some up and see how it works.
Stuff like that can't hurt.
that is why I have also been taking Centrum for the last year, just to make sure I am getting the vitamins I need to help me heal faster. Or at least help my back in some way. I also take up to 3grams of vitamin C. Since I am a smoker it helps the oxygen uptake in your blood, believe it or not.
Just my little things I do to try and help my body heal.
Chezz

[jack daniels]

going on 24 hrs with out Oxycotin cold turkey from 100 mg a day now i'm going to to my 1st treatment program today...i feel like ****....how long will this last.. the doc said i can go back to work in a week....will that work...he also give me lorazepam to help with the w/d from it....HELP HELP

Thanx

[cosmicstargoat]

Jack, how long were you on the Oxycontin?  Typically, the worst of the physical withdrawal occurs between 48-72 hours after the last dose.  After that there is a more extended period in which you might suffer depression and a very washed out, unmotivated feeling, but generally after 3 or 4 days you realize that you will live.  Be sure to have some Imodium on hand for the runs.

Good luck.

[bmac]

And find the Thomas recipe, it works!

[mrmichael67]

It is to my understanding coral calcium is the best one to use.

[doner]

Hello evryone,This is my first post ever but ive been following for awhile. All I ask is that you be kind to me as I will to you.(I see alot of bitterness in here)i am very emotional and think Im going through standard depression from wds. All of your words have helped and a response would be great as I am feeling very alone.Ill try to keep my story short. Started on tabs lorcets,vics then oxys. I have no injuries or pain(except wds)purely by choice. I have found an unlimited supply of methadone(yes I know it's very dangerous)We have a very bad detox center where I live. Every local Ive known that came out of it is still an addict. ive heard some opinions on tapering and some on CT. I think its an individual choice. I am very dedicated to my personal program and feel very determined and stronger every day that I will succeed. I started on 80mg and dropped to 40mgs without much pain. Then to 20mgs. I got stuck there.Finally decided I had to wether the pain and dropped to 15mgs. The first week was very painful but I never took an extra dose. Im on my 2nd week on 15mgs and feel good thinking I should drop again but dont want to dicourage myself by being in pain canstantly. I plan to drop 2.5 every 2 weeks until Im off. Im very dedicated to this idea and feel strongly about it and do not have access to meds to help wds. I am looking for some encouraging advice. I know that this method is not recommended but I feel its working for me and we all know every individual is different. I would appreciate no dicouraging remarks but just some company.
Thank You for your time.

[mrmichael67]

I will post more when I have time, but your method will work as long as you stick to the plan.  DO NOT stay on the methadone!  In your case, you should use it to get off the opioids and get away.

[jack daniels]

i trid that not enough W/P i just flushed it down the crapper.....had to make a atand and i will prevail...but it really sux...BIG   THIS IS THE TOUGHEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE..55 hrs clean   i will let everyone know when the sun shine comes out...and it will   as i have been told.......JACK

thanx for everyone help....this place really helps people like me that thinks i am all ALONE IN THE WOURLD AND NO ONE GIVES A SHITT.......THANX