codeine addiction

i would like to speak to anyone that is going thru or gone thru codeine addiction i am currently trying to stop taking them...i have done cold turkey i now have tramadol and diazapen to help with withdrawls,i just need to find the will power to do i say to myself today is the day i will start then i go buy a pkt and i need to find something inside me too say i don't need these anymore..anyone have any good ideas on how too start getting off these damn pills i take 45 panafen plus a day 15 at a time       pebbles360

[j34]

Sorry Pebbles, I am not to familiar with that. I am sure somebody will soon be on here to help you.I want to let you know you are not alone! I am here if you just need to chat okay, I know about crack ,meth and booze withdrawls , I do know how scary it was and how lonely, sick and confused I was , anytime message me okay
Lots of love your way
j34

[cinders64]

Hi

I am currently tapering off codiene, I was also taking panafin plus, 30 a day.  I spoke to my doctor and he put me on pandiene forte which has 30mg of codiene where as the panafin  plus has 12.8.  I workedd out a tapering plan with the panadine forte and have gone from 382mg of codiene down to 75mg.   Tomorrow I will go down to 60mg.  Then eventually I will stop all together.  I was too scared to go cold turkey, just couldn't do it.  Even know  I am still a little scared to just stop, but if you can i think its the way to go.  I am been doing this for 2 months now and its taking its toll, I am tired.  But I know I have to do it, its too hard to control the codiene addiction and I just wanted to keep taking more.

I spoke to a Natrapath in Melbourne and she put me on a supplement program to help with the withdrawals plust I have used this site to get other ideas on managing and it has helped a great deal.

If am also in Australia, if you want to talk message me.

Take care,
Cindy

[pebbles360]

Thankyou j34 thanks its nice too have someone to just talk to about it thanx again for replying

[pebbles360]

Thanks cindy it is so hard to stop i no when i tryed before tapering down i had no energy legs ached had flu like symptoms depressed sometimes i wake up and have this feeling of dread come over me...i feel like if i don;t take them i can't function properly,but i no this will all pass eventually and i have too do it..I think i will start see how i go with the tramadol ..please let me no how you are doing and goodluck with it i no how hard it is..It definitly makes u feel a bit better that we are not on our own and can talk to people going thru the same thing..cheers Deb

[j34]

Hey Pebbles how are you doing today? Let me know , I am thinking of you
hugs
j34

[pebbles360]

i have to be honest not so well i am going too start again tomorrow i just finding it so hard to get my mind in the right mind set that i need to and have to do it thanx so much for asking  hugs pebbles360

[vicki595]

Pebbles-  I wanted to mention to you that Tramadol is an opiate,as well as codeine, so I wouldn't take that. It would just be replacing one addiction with another. Also, Valium is pretty strong stuff and you don't want to get hooked up with that so be careful...

Cinders has a great program going so maybe you could do the same? You would do well to taper as far as the physical goes and you would need someone to hand out your daily doses. Get a doctor's appt and talk this through. Also, learn as much as you can about addiction. The more you know the better you'll do!

[pebbles360]

Thanx vicki  i have heard tramadol can de addictive .can i ask it is a slow release tramadol so i don't get anything from as in getting a buzz so i just wondering how do people become addicted to them..as for the sleeping tabs i can understand getting addicted to them but really i have had a lot of strong drugs when i hurt my back never got addicted too any of them except the panafen plus...which im still finding it hard too stop ..cheers

[vicki595]

I don't know the exact mechanism for tramadol addiction except to say that it's both mental and physical and it's tough to come off of.  For those who get no benefit from it, they won't become addicted,right? They just won't take it. The addiction generally comes with the amount of use and the frequency.  In your case, have you tried to take a tramadol? Did it help?

[pebbles360]

yes i have when i try to stop the codeine they definitly stop the horrible wds i meant to take one in morning and one at night.i have 3 discs out but to be honest i think with all the codeine im taking it makes my back worse..so tomorrow i am going to try again i think once im over the wds i prob won't take the tramadol anymore if i can stick at it for about two weeks with the tramadol i prob won't need them.....

[vicki595]

It's sounding like that could work for you as crazy as some may find it!!  As long as you get away from it, I guess it's worth a try...

Do you think you can stay away from the codeine once you're past the WD's or do you think you'll need some help with that?

[pebbles360]

Thats the problem i went for two weeks then thought i buy one pkt and then it went back to same old problem..its more mentally for me because i really don;t get anything from taking the codeine now because im so immune to them....but not sure what to do im hoping if i keep reading everyones posts and being able too talk to people like you it may help me more than not having anyone to talk to about it..i, going to really try this time..

[vicki595]

You should try to hook yourself up with an AA meeting. There would be so many people to talk with and get support from. The forum is great, don't misunderstand, but the "in person" support is what's going to help the mental part of this!

Love, BamBam

[pebbles360]

Thanx bambam i think that is what i need too do i might start looking in to some meetings i could go too i think your right person to person would be a great start thankyou x

[vicki595]

Anytime.  You need support there and it should be with folks who understand...hang out here,too,though!!

Love,Wilma

[pebbles360]

Thanx so so much x

[gnarly_1]

Pebbles im with Vicki with this one time to start treating the disease get yourself to a N/A or A/A meeting there free and you will learn how to stay sober your going to have to learn how to change the very way you think and reason......Gnarly

[pebbles360]

Thanks Gnarly i definitly think ineed to as i am struggling to do so on my own ...i am going to look into were  i can go...pebbles360

[gnarly_1]

Hun just google N/A or A/A meeting in your town or area
you shouldent have to much trouble finding one go out of your comfort zone a bit try it 3 times each time you will walk away with something and a lot of somethings will keep you clean good luck and God bless.......Gnarly

[pebbles360]

Thanx gnarly for your support  tomorrow i will look on the internet and find one and go and i think your right im sure i will walk away with things that are definitly going too help me Take care and thankyou....:)