fioricet

[scared2]

i have been addicted to fioricet without codeine for over 6 year s, i take just about 6 or 7 a day, i take about 3 every morning to get me going, because i feel it is the only way to get me going.  i want to stop.  i am scared that i may have caused liver damage, and i do not want to die.  i also in addition at night right after work pop 1 1/2 of vicodin es, but not any more than that.  but none the less still addicted.  and i have been doing that for the same amount of time, but just in the past year taking 1/1/2 everyday, it used to be just on the weekends.

i need some advise on stopping, what kind of withdrawls i might have.  what kind of herbs can i take to help maybe correct my liver damage.  i am 31, and i think i still have a chance to reverse any damage, if i can just stop using.

please help

scared

[Gee65]

Hi, I value your comments and I really dont think I have to worry yet but I guess I am a little because I am looking into it and responding.  I am taking fiorcet/cod and I was just taking 2 a day but I have upped it to 3 just the past two days and I have only been taking it for five days but before that for about seven days I took firoinal but it was hard on my stomach.  I am in pain it started with migraine which I really think is tension headaches from PMS well, that is when they occur and now my back is out, recently went to chiro and going back tomorrow so I figure if I can get my back back in order (I am working on posture) then I will be able to stop taking these.  Do you think I should taper after this short of time?  I guess that a person really builds a tolerance according to the amounts that were being taken (?) It helps with my pain but it also gives me a buzz. Should I be concerned?  Thanks so much

[gmacj]

I don't know how I stumbled upon this but am sure glad that I did. I take 100 fioricet every 25 days and am getting weary of trying to make them last that amount of time (my doc wrote the script so I can only get them every 25 days). I know that headaches are one of the withdrawal syptoms for fioricet, which seems so ironic, because that's what I take them for. I have been taking around 100/month for at least several years and my doctor doesn't semm troubled by this at all. I have to take Nexium twice a day and headaches are the most common side effect of that drug so my doc just keeps on prescribing. When the fioricet began to feel less effective, I added 3 excedrin tension tablets to each dose of 2 fioricet. I realize that this is asking for trouble but just coping one day at a time has kept me on this regimen and out of the lab to check for liver damage. My doc is no help and even though we have COBRA, hubby and I are out of work so specialist shopping and expensive Rx copays aren't really a decent option. I could use advice in getting off this high does of butalbital and tylenol and also need suggestions regarding coping with the headaches that are sure to remain once I am off. Suggestions anyone?

[sunshine6706]

What / Will  happen if i take 16 Fioricet in one day?

[dancinginthedark]

Hey, nice to hear from you on this less than delightful day.

OHMYHEAD!!!!!   Christ, ****.  

As far as getting in trouble with the DEA, I've read a lot about it here but don't personally know much about it.  As far as I know, you can only get in trouble for forging scrips, or calling in your own, pretending to be a doc.  

Since I don't know your transgressions but you say they were relatively minor, I wouldn't worry, or at least now while w/d.  I'm NOT an attorney but I believe the DA & cops gets more seriously bent out of shape over fraud, forging scrips, calling in, impersonating a doc's office.  Some ppl on this site have been busted for these crimes & charges were pressed.

Many ppl here are quite the doc shoppers - I know one woman who was getting F from 11 diff. docs & never got caught!  For the ppl who have been caught, they just get in trouble with their docc & usually cut off by all the others.

So, tell us what you're worried about & we'll try & set your mind at ease.  Believe me, ppl here have done *everything* imagineable & these are loving, honest, kind, family ppl.  The damn pills make us all crazy!

What are you detoxing from?  Opiates?  I quit codeine on Jan 20 but this F has such a hold on me I just beccame terrified it was going to kill me because I was starting to really binge on it.

It's pretty rough today but it helps to write here.  Pls excuse me for not sounding very eloquent.  I'm not in the best of shape!

Maybe we can talk each other thru this "long weekend".  Post back here if you want to chat.

Take care!

Judy

[rodewc]

I know how you feel, Judy (Dancing).. Like Craaaaaaap.. So do I. It's day 1 and 1/2 here, and man it sux.. I thought maybe wine and a nice dinner but that holds no interest.. Only the puppy perks me up, she and her cat bros/sisses..

Anyway, I did have one Question as I was reading thru all this DEA stuff.. Does the DEA investigate what I consider "minor" addicts like we? I mean do they come after normal citizens who maybe used a cupla docs and pharmicies but did so w/ legit scripts? Thatz enuf to scare the beejeebies outta me.. on Top of trying to quit CT (when on toppa everything that damn puppy hound found 83 frickin' Vikes..)

And to think of alla those bezellion times I have torn the house apart for one spare pill just cause it twas too early to fill the script.

I too like F. and unfortunately have about 20 of those, for Migraines.

I swear, all this talk of DEA is enuf to give me a migraine, or mebbe I am Just lookin' for a reason to fall off the wagon I have barely gotten on. I am even afraid to take a Xanax for fear it will worsen the runs and weaken the willpower.

Chin up, Judy. We can do this?~

[Kat49]

Judy - I just read your post and didn't know you were going to go CT!  For me, that's the only way and I don't even have neurontin! You'll be just fine, believe me. You know I've done this 4 times, 3 without ANYTHING to help me! I strongly believe valium helps tremendously and phenergan suppositories for nausea. And don't forget our "friend" Imitrex, because if you can keep anything down for at least 1 hr., then pop one of those to start working on the MOFO headache that will ensue. I never had any seizures except the 1st time 2 yrs. ago I told all of you I had little black "things" floating by that resembled hairs and I was always thinking my dog was shedding all over the floor and would try to pick them up! hahahah Now that I look back, I believe those were small seizures. My son's medical book on brain activity states that after a patient has brain surgery they can experience that exact thing for up to a year and they put them on Dilantin or anything like that. It's considered a seizure, but mild. When I read that, I nearly died! But, I only read that right before the 4th time I tried to quit - he had all his books at his apt. at school. I think if I knew at the time, it may have given me more incentive to not go back. But, this other post above about the grandpa who died of kidney failure due to fiorinal is something I always knew about and I never quit because of that either!

It has it's claws in all of us and that's why we've all formed such a strong bond. Like the mother of 3 above - WELCOME by the way - her using 2/day isn't a big deal in my book. But, some day she'll maybe need 5 because the kids are REALLY driving her nuts and then it starts all over again.

I hope you're feeling better today hon! It's day 2 and that's always one of my best. After puking all of day 1 (about 30 hrs. after the last pill) I feel like the Amtrak Express hit me and backed up and hit me again! But, I feel calmer and more in touch with everything. And lest not forget the MOFO headache - I will have that for approx. 3-4 days. So, hang in there my friend and we'll talk soon. Huggggsssss to you - Kat