on my 3rd day

[Hilliard]

im back!! well im quitting!! im on my 3rd day now and its been very uncomfortable!!! the worst is the restless legs and ZERO energy... its a task to move from room to room.. i stopped because i ran out... it will be thursday night before i get a chance to get more oxy but that will have givin me 7 days with out oxy.. its almost literally impossible to even type this... my whole body is shaking none stop... PLUS i got a mild cold right before qutting so i have to deal with both!!!.... Heres a little back ground info... im from seattle and thats where i get my oxy from but im vacationing in michigan ... so i only took ten pills (20's)  with me and thought id be okay with only 20mg a day but i waas wrong and soon ran out... so im stuck here and i want to go home sooo badly... i do want to quit but not in this type of pain... on the 7th day if im still in pain ill take oxy again or i might just keep toughing it out... but that all depends because school starts on the 23 and i cant go to school like this.. my whole life is based on oxy and i like it that way... even though i dont get high really anymore it still has changed my outlook and personality for the better... well anyway does any one have any ideas on how to at least gain some energy.. i need some... this totally sucks..  heeelppp mee :( :( :(.. btw if your in michigan and you can help me out with some oxy or any type of opiate then please write back with ur email adress ,,, im in east lansing then on tuseday im in grandrapids.. ANYTHING even methadone.. well thank you byebye

[Hilliard]

BTW ive taken nothing for my withdrawal.. just sleeping pill at night.. i just lay around all day in pain it reallllly sucks... what can i do to at least have energy... what pill can i take that i can get over the counter/.?????

[konrado]

I am on day 8 today. I tried to go cold turkey. It was hell. Tired, runs, anxiety and no energy. I am going thru a medical detox with a hospital here. It is an ambulatory detox. I was assessed by them and that is what they prescribed. I feel better but still am low on energy. I found out today from a doc that my whole body has to "reprogram" my nervous system because it has been on vicodins and oxycontin for almost a year after my 2 back operations. I had to ramp up the dosage just to feel normal and then after a while I never felt good.
Are you going back to the west coast or staying in michigan. It's  a tough detox but you won't die. It takes 30 days to feel normal then be careful you will be tempted to start up again then the rollercoaster starts again.
Can you get some medical help for this?

[Bondy]

Get to an urgent care center...
there you have 2 basic choices.
a)tell them that you have left your BP meds at home and you need clonidine 0.3 mgs twice a day. If they give them to you (they should because long term clonidine is known to produce a rebound high BP...and the doc wont risk NOT giving them to you)break them in half and take every 6 hrs. You may feel faint but I promise you will feel better.

b)level with them ...if they know what they are doing it will work better.

I suggest b)
  good luck,
      Serge.

[pon]

I suggest B too...this is a chance to make it...take it if you can

[Hilliard]

I NEEED OXY !!!!! HELPPP

[Hilliard]

THIS IS becoming worse every second i can barely move my arms or legs.. i dont want to quit oxys right now.... i know some day ill have to but , at that time ill want to be able to take clondine and whatever else a doctor can give me.... im not in the position to do that now .... so i just have to suffer it out :( :( hellppp this is the worst feeling and pain ive ever felt in my life jesus ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhghhhhhhhhh  :*(

[mrmichael67]

You don't sound good.  Have you been coughing?  If you can, go and see if you can get yourself a bottle of tussionex and try to take it very slowly.  That is probably your most likely way of getting any relief besides what Serge said.  I know I shouldn't have said it, but reality is reality and I wouldn't want you to do something you might regret.  Tussionex is time released, so it might bring you more extended relief.  Anything else and you will eat it right up.  I do empathize with you.  I have been there.  You will live.  Maybe a nice fattie will calm you down a bit?  I know coming off a high dose is pretty damn painful, but it will get better.

[Hilliard]

Hello im back! i took 3000mg of l-lysine.. i dont have l-tryosine... but is there a major difference???? after i took the  l-lysine i felt TONS better i got all my energy back.. i could actully deal with withdrawal!!! im about to take another 3000mg right now before i go to bed! taking all the pills sucks but its worth it.

What is the difference between l-lysine and l-tryosine??? extremely curious... btw that tussionex idea sounds good but as long as this lysine works ill be fine..

ALSO after being oxy free for a week then taking it again will i feel like i just started again?? or at least will my tolerance have gone down a notch or two>>??? i saw what that other guy said about the body re-programming  the nervous system.. and then i saw how someone said that on the second or third time withdrawal it isnt as bad?? so maybe in theory the body keeps itself ready for a reprograming or it reprograms its self into a medium , partial opiate partial normal??? lol i dont know what im talking about.. but Thanks in advance for the lysine and tryosine question~~!!!!

[Tuss-ex]

There is never a good time to go through w/d's.  I can truly simpathize, and I wish you the best.  You can get the best advice for dealing with the symptoms from Thomas and BMAC.  I used thier suggestions and well I finally am opiate free.  

I only want to say, tussonex may sound like a good idea, but being my drug of choice I know from personal experience that the w/d from it really suck.  It really fouls up your digestive system, which will lead to the worst case of the runs in history.  I now have the joy of about 12 inches less of my colon which I tie directly to the over use of tussonex.

Please just be careful...I will pray for relief for you in whatever you need...

God Bless

[Synderella]

Hillard,


I realize you are in pain and experiencing some really bad withdrawals, but not only is it bad etiquette to ask a bunch of fellow addicts whom are trying to get clean themselves to provide you with drugs, it

[Hilliard]

oh shush.. im fine now that im on tyrosine. thanks for the help from everyone!! sorry now that i know withdrawaling can be somewhat easy , im planning on starting my use again in a couple  of days. love u

[percsnomas]

..."sorry now that I know withdrawaling can be somewhat easy, i'll be starting ..."

BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!

[Witchywoman]

There is a major difference between lysine and tyrosine. Tyrosine is the amino acid that goes to work creating the raw materials for the neurotransmitters that opiate abuse depletes.
Lysine is also an amino acid, but I've never heard of it helping with neurotransmitters, though I could be wrong.  People take lysine to stop herpes cold sores, and it does work great for that.

I think the reason you started feeling better was the fact that you were on 7 days without the oxy. I don't think it was the lysine.

L-Tyrosine does help a bit, and when you are ready to stop, I'd definately recommend it.
I'm nervous for you.  You clearly say you are not ready to stop using, and that's ok. I wasn't for a long time either.  
But please don't let the addiction fool you into believing that withdrawal is easy, or that it is not going to destroy your life.

We are all in the same boat, just different stages of it.
I just know that life got much better once it no longer revolved around drugs.

love,
WW

[pon]

PLEASE read WW's post...she is spot on.  W/D is not always easy...most of the time not, most of the time horrible...

You may not be ready, if so, your life, your choice.  I'll be worrying about you Hilliard....

[harley28]

Im not on my 3rd day. I just ran out about 3 hours ago. I already feel bad. Im 28 and a wife and a mother. I have a addiction to pain medicine. Its not just me its my husband to. I want to get off the pills for my children. They dont deserve this. I just dont know how i can handle the withdrawls. they make me so sick. I have to take care of my family. I dont get anymore meds till monday. i just have a hard time getting out of bed in the morning without my meds. I am in constant pain. I have only been taking the drugs for a year and a half. noone knows about me i try to hide it. but i think people suspect it. I just dont know what to do. We dont have anywhere to get help around here. I couldnt ask for it anyway on the account of my kids.

[pon]

I have kids too...want off for them...day 7 for me, not too bad...do you want to get off the pills for you?

[pon]

congratulations on day 1...it IS a big step you have taken...a big step towards something much better.

I am on day 8 of cold turkey.  The first 4 days were really the worst, after day 4 the physical syptoms began to taper away and lessen...by today they are virtually gone.  It is different for everyone...but the 4 day thing seems to be a fairly common timeframe for things to start improving.

Are you taking vitamins?  There are a lot of supplements that seem to help a lot.  I don't really know too much about them, but if you read the threads, you will find a wealth of info on it.  

Or just post and ask....you have found a wonderful group of people who share your pain and will help...keep posting, there lots of us here...we may all be different, have different w/ds, different experiences...but we are all the same in our addiction...folks here understand and will help.

Anyone out there who can give some supps advice...I don't know enough.

Hang in there...you can do this.  It WILL be hard, especially in the first few days, less hard (but not easy) after that, but you can do it...and you bare worth it.  Do it for you.

[Chezz]

Harley, you can do it. I am on day 3 and I know the stuff that goes on in your head, everything.
Keep yourself positive. You have already gone threw two the hardest parts. Admitting you have a problem. And reaching out for help through this horrible mentally/physically draining time.

On my second day I woke up I felt better than anytime I was on meds.

You just have to post and let us know where you are at. We are here to help.

Chezz

[harley28]

yes, i do. The meds cost us alot of money. When you run out you have to find them and pay street price. so then it takes from your kids. today is payday it will be hard not to look for them today. Did you go cold turkey? i did it like that before. I made it 2 weeks then got my meds. i took just one and couldnt stop. this is day one for me. I have to do it for me to get healthy.

[harley28]

im on day 2 its hard but i just have to tuff it out. I know in time i will make it. Thank you all for your help and understanding. I really need people to talk to.

[Chezz]

Harley,

It is has been a tough day for me too. I called my doc.
Not good.

This battle, this struggle, its everyday. I am trying to get through it minute by minute.

Yet it seems so hard.

Chezz

I don't know where I am at or where I am going. I feel like an emotional roller coaster.

I just want to do the right thing. I have the pain, but I haven't been able to get the treatment I need. But I don't like how the pills "take my life away"

Im lost - Day 4

[pon]

tried to post this last night but couldn't get on....hope all are welj...another day to go*****

Chezz

[peaz]

Congratulations on putting the pills down......now go flush them.......Seriously--how can you detox w/  your DOC around?????It'd KILL me, emotionally and physically.  I'd stare at them all day and think of nothing else.  Such torment.
You are winning the battle and keeping things in perspective so keep on keepin' on!! Keep posting and good luck!!

[percsnomas]

I agree about flushing them....when I flushed the last 120 percs down the bowl, it felt soooooo great, after they controlled me for so long!!
STAY STRONG