oxicotin

[59zorro77]

i am 49 years old i have been taking 2 40mg of oxicotin time released for about 2 years before that i was taking vicodine or percocet 4to5 times a day the pain is caused by rhumitoid arthritce frozen shoulders both that caused by the rotor cuff being torn many times and not getting it fixed now it is so bad they cant operate because the soft tissue is just about gone and no way to sew it back also severe lower back pain i raced snowmobiles and motorcycles in the late 70s and early 80s so my body is pretty beat up i can barely get out of bed unless i take the oxi i was always in severe pain until now my wife even says im in alot better mood because the pain is no where near as bad my question i guess is i would like other peoples opinion on weather i should stay on this dosage  and i wont go higher for as long as it helps i know im addicted becouse i tried to stop once and i went right back on my wife and my opinion is if it helps and i feel that much better the hell with the addiction and just stay feeling better what are your opinions should i just keep taking them becouse it is a low dosage or should i try and stop  like i said im almost 50 now  any opinion would be apprciated  thank you mark  p.s. the vicodine and the percocet tore up my stomach where the oxi dont seem to bother it except once in a while

[59zorro77]

I just wanted everyone to know that my main motivation was my grandchildren. My youngest daughter lives with me and has 2 of them. she is the one who named her son after me (Mark). She would bring them in my room at least twice a day and on the 4th day she bought all of them over to see me, just looking them in the eyes and realizing what i was doing to myself and them was more than enough motivation. Then looking at my daughter and what she has been though was enough. A quick story about her,  the father of her son , he is 5 is in prison for 10 years for armed robbery, she then met a very nice young man . She got pregnant and had a little girl dec 18/ 2006. they had wedding plans for april 2007, we even had the hall rented , she had the dress and everthing was all set. he came home from work and went to his grandmothers, he was not feeling good he said so he laid down. She went to check on him and he had stopped breathing. He was pronouced dead on feb 22/ 2007. My daughter has not been with anyone since , she lives with me , shes a manager at Mcdonalds and is going to college for her associates degree in crimanoligy. She has never done drugs so that was a very insperational person to look at everyday. My grandchildren are Shianne 9, alexander 6, Mark 5, Laci 5, Juliana 2, Login 2, and 2 more on the way so you see i had way to much to live for. Im sorry if i took up time telling something that has nothing to do with this subject i just wanted people to know that no matter how bad it gets never hide behind drugs just look at my daughter  THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING  MARK

[Shelwoy]

Congrats on kicking the beast in the ***.You have accomplished something that many people seem to be too weak to do.I couldn't do it, my weak moral character kept taking me back.I am now in medically assisted recovery for almost a year.
As far as how long you will feel crappy, everyone is different.The best things for you are to
1.stay active- stimulating movement helps kick your body back into a normal functioning mode.
2. Lots of water and vitamins
3. Try Immodium AD AKA loperamide. It has been known to significantly lower the effects of detoxing.It is a mild opiate, but it will not do anything more than ease your suffering a bit.Be careful though, use it with caution,not more than a 7-10 day period.It takes about 4 hours to start working.It will most likely help with your stomach problems.
4. Stay busy, and stay positive.You will see how much better life is without being in the fog opiates caused.I even noticed allot of my pain was in my head.

PM me if you have any questions, and congrats again.You are an inspiration.

[enemy48]

Hi Zorro~

I read your 1st post from 8/27 and I tried to understand why you wrote this forum.  I raise the question because this is a fourm for people trying to quit their addiction, and if you didn't google addiction or whatever, how did you find us?  Your 1st post makes you sound like a very responsible person taking painkillers, and that is rare.  I didn't understand your original intention for posting.

Then tonight I read the others posts starting out by telling how you're trying to taper because you were tired of living in a fog and concerned about dangerous withdrawals.  And tonight you've completed several days of clean time!

Congratulations!  

What bothers me most is that you use the age of 50 like it's a dinosaur age or somithing..........Quit!

You've got many years ahead..........and being clean guarantees more to remember!  

Best Wishes,
Pamela

[59zorro77]

I stopped taking everthing last tuesday 09/02/08 the firrst 3 days i thought I was going to die. I was lucky i had my 23 year old daughter to help take care of me. I finally ate a bowl of soup on friday the 5th. I was so sick for 5 days and wanted one so bad i never thought i could make it. I slowly started to feel better not so sick ,***** thowing up head spinning etc. all at the same time. Saturday the 6th i made my self get up and go outside for a little while. I  did this everyday longer and longer . It is now friday the 12th , i feel a lot better except i still have terrible pains in my stomach, other than that the pain and sickness has pretty muched let up. The only thing is i still have no energy, i get up for a while but still need to go lay back down and rest or sleep. Im 50 years old so i guess this will take awhile, if anyone knows about how long it will be before i feel like myself again let me know please, because now it seems like it will be months before i do. I still get the cravings bad but will never do them again because i could not go though that again. So to people who are trying to stop you can do it , you just feel like your dying. Like i said if anybody has any idea how long it will be before i start to get my energy back please just give me your opinion. Thanks for talking to me mark

[59zorro77]

It is 4;30 in the morning and i cant sleep,I just needed something to try and help me sleep. I just ended up taking a 40mg oxi because the pain in my shoulder was to much. Now maybe i can get some sleep. Its so bad that i know i will have to get my younger cousin to come over and put the slicks on it, belive it or not my wife does that a lot. She has done it for years. That is why i dont know if i really want or need to stop. I cant even drive it when it hurts this bad, and i never would because it would endanger some one else.When it hurts this bad my youngest daughter drives it , she has been since she was 16 now she is 24 and loves driving it as much as i do. her reaction time is usually better than mine. Well back to my original question, but it seems the more i talk to all of you it gets answerd. I think i will just keep taking the 2 40mg timed released tablets. Becouse i feel good and im not in so much pain.Her son is 5 years old and he cant wait for mommy to come to the line. Thank you all again because i feel better just talking to all of you  (THANK YOU MARK  AND LITTLE MARK)          

[starfish1963]

I was on hydro for a year and a half than they changed me to roxy's (same as oxy but only smaller dose I think) for over a year and I quit cold turkey.  I'm on day 8 clean.  My chest did hurt day 4-5 but I don't think it was my heart I think it was the muscle on the top of my chest because of the physical work I do.  It was hard and I have back pain but eleve is my best friend and I'm glad I stopped.  My physical damage isn't as bad as yours is so I would consult my doctor.  Oxy's are evil and can do damage to your heart, liver and brain just to name a few.  Seek medical advice and see if they can give you something with less adverse side effects that can help
God richest Blessings in Christ Jesus

[59zorro77]

i started doing what i said i was going to the only problem is i am afraid of the heart palpitations and it feeling like it is speeding up you see i have had 3 heart attacks the last one my heart stopped beating for about 4 min. i lost oxegen to my brain and that is part of why im disabled i use to program c.n.c. machines there just like programming a computor well since that happened i cant remember numbers i have a cell phone and that is were i put everyones phone numbers because i cant remember phone # street address# or any other kind of numbers in your opinions will i be able to do this myself or will i need the help of a doctor because i dont really have the money and i would rather not because the less people who know the better but i also dont want to have another heart attack and die i have seven grandkids and i cant stand the thought of my daughters or my wife explaning to them that poppa was a drug addict and died because of it any opinion please thank you mark

[worried878]

oxy is considered to be a bit stronger than hydrocodone..i was at 80-100 mg of hydro per day for 4 years or so..didnt start out at that much of course...it took 4-5 days for the physical stuff like the runs and clamminess, flu-like symptoms to go away..that was me and everyone is different..exercising as much as u can tolerate and the supplements can help alot...plus a positive attitude is sooooooooo important

[59zorro77]

thanks for all the comments im going to start  taking less tommarow im going to take one and a half for a few days then one and then just stop my wife and i talked and i just cant live in this fog any more i was told to get some milk of magnesia and imodium ad and get tylanal pm to help with the flu like symptons and maybe help me sleep i guess this is about the best way to try one think though about how long will the physical pain be there i have my wife and daughtar to help with mental part and my daughter knows a lot she was to the point of shooting them up she went to a detox clinic and was on methadone for 2 years now she has been clean for a year and everthing seems great she says she still getsthe cravings once in a while but remembers the pain of stopping and will never do it again if any one knows about how long the physical pain last thank you

[NautyOne]

No amount is a small amount when it comes to oxy........you found that out when you tried to stop.  Imagine if you were taking just twice that small amount.....Ouch!!  

I say.......go with your gut !!

luv,
Nauty.........

[addict200]

It sounds to me like although you are physically dependant your not addicted. If you take your oxy as perscribed and aren't chasing a high then I think it's ok to continue to take it. If you'd rather try something else for pain then talk to your doctor. You have to weigh the quality of life w/ pain vs the quality of life with meds.
Oxycotin is a legitimate pain med and not everyone who takes it abuses it.

[TooManyOxyz]

HELLO, MY STORY IS ALOT LIKE YOURS, ONLY I AM A SMALL PERSON AND VERY SENSITIVE TO HIGH DOSAGES. MY STORY BEGAN AFTER 15 YEARS WORKING AS A REHAB NURSE IN A PHYSICAL REHAB SETTING. I STARTED OFF WITH A LEFT FROZEN SYNDROME, FOLLOWED BY DIAGNOSIS OF TORN ROTATATOR CUFF, I AM ALSO AN INSULIN DEPENDENT DIABETIC, THE DOCS WERE HESITANT TO INTERVENE BUT I FINALLY FOUND A LOCAL CANADIAN DOC THAT TOOK ON THE TASK, A SCOPE TO ESTIMATE THE DAMAGE, I ENDED UP WITH A STAPH INFECTION THAT LEAD TO AVASCULAR NECROSIS OF THE HUMERAL HEAD WHICH LEAD TO A TOTAL SHOULDER REPLACEMENT(LEFT.)

I CONTINUED ON OXY 40MG TID FOR A YEAR THEN DOWN TO10MG TID FOR 5/6 YEARS(THE TIME IS A LITTLE FOGGY.) I HAD TO HAVE IT TO JUMPSTART MY DAY, THE MEDS MADE ME FEEL GOOD/MOTIVATED IN SOME WAYS AND IRRITABLE IN OTHERS.

SO IN JAN2008 ON MY BIRTHDAY I DECIDED TO GO C/T LASTED ABOUT 2 MONTHS, THE W/D WASHELL BUT I MADE IT THROUGH IT. THEN THE WORSE HAPPENED I STARTED TO HAVE THE SAME PAIN WITH MY RIGHT SHOULDER, THE DOC WANTED ME BACK ON THE MED AND TO PREPARED FOR SURGERY FOR A FROZEN SNDROME AND BONE SPUR. I OPTED FOR THE MED AND PT, SO FAR I HAVE DONE GOOD. BUT THE NEED TO TAKE MEDS TO JUST START MY DAY WAS BACK WITH A VENGENCE.

THIS MORNING I AM 72 HOURS WITH OUT THE MED, I HAVE HAD HARDLY NO SLEEP, SO EXCUSE MY RAMBLING. I HAVE TAKING  SOME CLONIDINE 0.1MG FOR SWEATING. SOME XANAX, KLONOPIN AND SOMA FOR CRAVINGS IN SMALL DOSAGES AND DESPITE THE LACK OF SLEEP I FEEL SORTA OK.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL WORK FOR YOU , JUST A SUGGESTION. FINANCIALLY I HAVE TO WORK, I AM OFF FOR 16 DAYS AND HOPE TO HAVE THIS MONKEY OFF MY BACK WHEN IT IS TIME TO GO BACK TO WORK. I HAVE FOUND THAT USING THIS WEB SITE AND JUST PLAYING WITH MY PC HAS BEEN A BIG DISTRACTION.

HOPEFULLY SOMETHING THAT I HAVE SAID WILL BE OF SOME HELP. WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU.

ALSO THE THE FIRST TIME I DETOXED IT WAS HELL, I LEFT MY HOUSE 2 TIMES IN 11 DAYS, I THINK THE MEDS I MENTIONED EARLIER REALLY MADE THE DIFFERENCE AND I DID NOT TELL MY PAIN DOC BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID I WOULD MESS UP AND IN  THE END REALLY NEED THE MEDS AGAIN.

PEACE AND WISHES,
DON

[ochooked]

Welcome to the forum.  Hope you will stay and read the many stories and post your own from time to time.   I was very similar to what you are are taking - -  I was a 10 year Oxycontin and Percocet user for a messed up back.  I was surprised to see so many also with my story on these pages.   Only you can determine if you are taking the narcotics for only pain or as you indicate, other 'advantages'.   I was at 140 mg per day of Oxy but knew that my addiction was the real reason for the dope, not the pain - although it was always there.   I just got tired of several things - - first, everything in my life was filtered through the opiates -- not just the pain, but even my emotions -- everything had become artificial - not real.   Next, my whole life revolved around my little bottle (always in my pocket) --  I was concerned if I had enough drugs to make it to my next refill, did I have enough for an out of town trip -- everything revolved around my supply of drugs and my last use or next use time and date.  After reading so many stories on this site, I decided the only way I was ever going to know just why I still continued to take opiates, was to get clean and then see exactly what the pain was still like after 10 years - -- Pain, as I am sure you know is 'subjective' - in other words, our minds can deceive us about it in order to get its 'fix' ---  I also wanted to find if there were other drugs which were not opiate that would work and thus free me from the haze (and yes, stigma) of narcotics.   To make a long story short, I have found that my pain indeed did not require such large doses of opiates, and in fact can be treated with other newer meds.  Believe me, long years of opiate use will do damage to your body, as you have already mentioned in your story.   After decided to quit, I began a taper program and reduced my opiates from 140 mg to 70 mg per day.  Then I got some Suboxone and after about 13 hours of going into withdrawals (necessary to start on Sub) I took my first pill (about 2 mg).  Within 15 minutes the W/D's were gone and over the next three weeks I decreased  my intake of Suboxone.   Sub is a powerful drug and most people (who have a similar dose to yours) who are successful seem to be of the opinion that the 21 day rule is the way to go - that is where you start and finish the course in under 21 days - -otherwise, you can get hooked on a new DOC.   Now, back to what I said at the beginning - - only you can determine if you genuinely need the opiates for real or perceived pain.  If there is doubt, I encourage you to do what I did.  I told my doctor -(which was risky b/c I did not want to mess up my supply if I changed my mind) and found a great ally in her. Withdrawing from the opiates you are on is not fun -- in fact, down right agony at some points and you must be motivated to do it - - unfortunately many who try do not make it and often return to the drug that has become their master, only to continue to slide down that slippery slope and get even more addicted.   Alright, that is only my opinion and you will find many on this site - - one thing you will rarely find is anyone who will criticize or pass judgment on another addict.   Almost all us started our narcotic use the same way - with legitimate pain and then just continued to take more and more of  it -- - one thing is for certain, doses only increase - it takes more and more over time to do what a little did in the beginning.  I wish you well as you make decisions about your drug use and the different options open to you.  All the best.