Help me understand

[Vicotram]

I am day one cold Turky I take 700mg of tramadol and around 10,000 mg of hydro per day, everytime I quit I just get the feeling of depression I can handle all the othe WD symptoms except this I was started on meds for cronic back pain I get the feeling of being down and sad it's just not me I have never had depression so what is up is this just for a few days or how long could this last? It makes me go back and take meds every time thanks for any help.

[jgirl1234]

I am so glad I found this discussion my B/F is taking Tramadol he gets off the internet without a srip. anyway he is now drinking with them I am really worried I think he maybe addicted he takes an awful lot of them about 12 a day! what are the chances he is addicted and how will the drinking effect him on top of the meds

[desperate1111]

i hope you stick around. tramadol and hydros were my doc also. i didn't know about the tapering thing and quit ct. i'm too greedy to taper anyway. if i had them i took them. you really need someone to help you, i had no one. i didn't know about all the aminos. i wish i took that route but got on antidepresants. and as you know you can't take trams with antidepressants. hey it keeps me off the trams. its just something you have to want and have to work at. again i hope you stick around. some excellent support here.

[malenurse57]

Trams were my choice to and quite a few of them. Now in day 8 I see where c/t off of them is dangerous. Now I see it right. lol I did it c/t but must have been really blessed or else the worst is yet to come. What about an inhouse medical detox so they can monitor your w/d ? If that is an option for you I am sure there one in you area.
Good Luck and God Bless

[Vicotram]

Just read the Thomas recipe and tapering. I can tell you if I had that kind of control to taper I would already be off I guess I will have to find sombody to trust, still CT and feeling like Sh!t at this point it's about 2:30 am here. Thanks for all the great advise.

[worried878]

Trams should be tapered down...they have an anti-depressent quality as well as a narcotic component so the depression during withdrawal can be worse that ahydro or an oxy detox...maybe u should quit one drug at a time...then tackle the other.. u can CT the hydro if u want to but a taper would make wd easier..tapering is hard for some and many/like me/had to hand over the pills to someone i trusted.....it is do-able...have u gotten the info from the health pages on tapering and on the thomas recipe?

[road2recovery]

That is exactly what i would do...one at a time...There was someone here a few months ago who was on both of those...And i forgot which one she did first...I will look for the post for you...
Maybe u should get the hydros out the way first...Then worry about tapering the trams...
It is slow here tonight,  others will give there opinons....
I am so glad u changed your plan!!!
Good luck
STAY STRONG
r2r

[Vicotram]

Well I guess I could try to stop 1 at a time. I do not have a doctor I can talk to they keep trying to give me more for my serious back condition. I also do not have people that would understand. It's just crappy sometimes.

[road2recovery]

U really need to talk to a doctor about this....This is your life...WE can only give u our opinons, the rest is up to you...Please reconsider your plan.
r2r

[ironman01]

I have to agree that u shud not go ct, ur levels are way too high man. u must taper off gradual or suffer. if u do not quit u will suffer even more. try a treatment facility if u need a softer landing coming down from all that.  

[Vicotram]

I wish I did have sombody that would help me taper but I am an evil ******* I would find a way to get more with or without that person. I could get more now but I do not want to hope I can last.

[avisg]

vic, you have to taper down the tramadol ,you are risking having sezuire CTing off of them . I have seen it happen .I know tapering hard but you really need to it.

[fedup4now]

Be really careful - trams c/t is really dangerous - I know what you mean about the will power - any chance you have someone you can let into your struggle, maybe hold the pills for you?  Keep posting.  
Avisg will be a real help to you - PM her, she can let you know what to expect, and what the dangers are.    

[Vicotram]

Why no CT I cannot taper I have tried is there another way? Please help if there is.

[road2recovery]

IMO, U should not go c/t off of all these meds, especially the trams...If it was just the hydros i would say go for it....But not trams...
r2r

[122 Tactical Fighter Group]

Check out the Amino Acid Protocol - link at bottom right of page - I feel that the amino's helped me a lot.....the 5HTP and DHEA in particular. One is the precursor element for serotonin....sure beats the antidepressants - several others depending on how you are doing....tailor your meds to fit your symptoms and good luck - keep reading posts and feel free to ask away

[Vicotram]

sorry about the misinformation I take about 20 of the 10/325's  an 16 or so 50 mg ultrams. I do not have the will power to taper I take them if I got em. I have quit the hydro before I believe it's the Ultram kickin my *** like I said I have never suffered with depression if this is it I cannot imagine living with it every day it just seems right now it will be like this forever and I am having really dark thoughs i have never had before. What a heavy trip what can I take to make the depression go away???

[fedup4now]

Boy do I know what you are talking about.  I am still struggeling with Tramadol - I did try and cut down a while back - but the depression was so dark, I was having thoughts I had never had before - it scared the hell out of me.  I have gone through ct withdrawal from oxy - but never experienced this type of depression.
I went back to using trams - I couldn't stand it.  I am going to try and taper really slowly, hopefully that will keep the depression at bay.
Good luck!
  

[lonelyinCA]

Hi - that is a lot of both drugs.  I can only speak to the Hydro's, but 10Kmg of hydro/day would be 1000 pills per day.  Typically, the dose is something like a 10/500 or maybe a 5/325. The first number is the mg in hydro and the second is the mg. of tylenoyl.  I sure hope we are talking about 20 pills/day at 10mg = 200mg of hydro per day. If not, then I would not recommend c/t if you can taper off the drug. Or maybe some other alternative. That's a very high dose and I can see how the depression would get the best of you.  

There are ways to supplement the rebuilding of your seritonin. Just let us know if the numbers are right and if you have any med's left. It sound's like you are ready to stop - but just need some support. Everyone here is great.

[elefrog42]

hey there,
I can only speak about the trams (they were my drug of choice), but they caused me serious depression when I got off of them because, although they have affinity for opioid receptors, they also have the ability to act as a serotonin reuptake inhibitor.  So you're brain gets use to having all that extra serotonin around, and when you stop, it makes you feel depressed.  Personally, when I quit, it took about 2 wks before I realized I was able to feel happy again.  I know it seems like a long time, but you will be so thankful when you do!  
Hope this helps!  good luck!
Ellie