Glass of Wine

[mar148]

I know I am over reacting, but I went out to dinner last night to celebrate my last riba pill and the end of treatment and had one glass of wine over the course of dinner. Do you think this will impact treatment success?   At this point I am so worried it didn't work it is all that is on my mind.  mar

[CockSparrow]

Dont worry 1 Glass of wine aint going to make any differece.
CS

[Bobby1952]

glass f wine won't do any harm. But I would give it a break from now on until you
reach SVR. I think about the same things. During treatment I talked the GI into prescribing some VICODIN because I was in a lot of pain for a while. And then I read about a study with Opiates causing HCV replication in vitro.
   but then they treat Methodone patients successfully! Even though Methodone is a synthetic opiate. I would think it still applies. I also wonder about these in vitro studies if they apply to whats going on in the body not just a test tube.

Bobby

[mar148]

thanks for your thoughts.  I have no intention of drinking until I am SVR.  It hasn't been hard for me not to drink, but had one glass last night.  Sorry I did it, but wondered if I should worry.  I haven't had a drink in almost a year.  

thx for the feedback.

[merryBe]

do yourself a favr and learn the lessonsf liver function you didn't pay attention to during treatment.  One glass....does one glass worth of damage/. Alcohol always does liver damage, that is the nature of alcohol.

I'd be concerned that you are still just in the beginning stage of withdrawing from treatment, and so you are more at risk in the next 3 months of a relaspe than at any other time.  not exactly time to start indulging.

therefore in my humble opinion even one glass was a dumb thing to do.
Not trying to sound mean here, just sensible. Take care of your liver AND your immune system and do not waer it down with any more celebrating or recreation mood altering substances....your liver works hard just to process and break down the millions of molecules you eat each day and turn them into digestible product to help you. throwing drugs and alcohol on top is like asking it to work double time in a thrice toxic environment.

[mar148]

I find your response rather excessive considering I had already written that I wasn't going to have any more wine until clearly SVR.  Do you have a job or experience with people who are drug and alcohol addicts?  I have never been much of a drinker and feel like I am in rehab with your response.  You responded to drugs and alcohol, is there some reason you need to react like this?

[Bill1954]

Unfortunately, some people in here feel compelled to use topics like this to soapbox their own personal agendas; furthermore, they do so without regard to scientific method or principal. For what it’s worth, you have my apologies :o),

Bill

By the way, I agree with the majority in here that if you're treatment is unsuccesful, it probably won't be due to a glass of wine. Good luck in your efforts, and take care.

[merryBe]

sorry, and you are right it probably is essesive....but one celebration leads to another...
with many of my friends and family, so I'm being a little presumptous here OK, and saying, or rather reading into this that if you are washing down your last Riba pill with some booze that you may just like yur wine, and that may not be the end of it.
I can only help if I try to percieve what is really going on, and why you asked the question in the first place. Did you need help? Did you want assurance, or did you want someone to help you think through what you may be thinking of doing, but left unsaid?

so speaking as a mom would to her son who has it...why go there.

speaking as a forum member who has read countless stories of people relasping and knowing the heartbreak of that bad news personally////, as well as what a lot of work, the torment of treatment and getting through it is....it just seems like now is the time to take excellent care of yourself......
because it hurts me everytime another member comes in here and has to give news that they relasped.  and I do not want to see you join that group...
.or be second guessing how it might have been different had you not returned to former habits of consumption.
Like some said, one glass is not the universe, but were that to become something you indulged again, then you really would be kicking yourself to the curb if you did relaspe saying "what if I hadn't been doing that".......and do you want that?
So, no, I guess I'll withhold my pat on the head in the hope of having gotten your attention. Take care of yourself.  MaryB

[comeagain]

My father is a doc and he has always said to me, their aint no such things as poison only  poisonous  mass, so relax its a okey with that one glas of wine. Good luck with svr

[jdwithhcv]

Marl - congrats on finishing.  I wouldn't give the wine a second thought.  Just ignore the partonizing "Mommy" stuff.

Bill - I agree re the distasteful conduct, climbing on soapbox to push one's personal agenda.  I add my apologies to yours.

jd

[Forseegood]

one glass of wine wouldn't hurt anybody...it's only routine drinking with HCV and/or treatment that I'd worry about....just my take, anyone is free to disagree!

[mcmcorp45]

One glass of wine is nothing to be worried about. I would do the same if I made it that far and congrats to you!!. I will not type anything about wine and the liver because we all know the story, but one glass of wine is not even an issue in my opinion. I hope you can just relax and wait to see how you did on treatment and I wish you the best!!

The only time I would be concerned with one..1...glass of wine is if you had major major issues with drinking.. and I dont believe you do and you said you will not drink until SVR so i dont see any issues and risks that you will now "Indulge".

And I cant even begin to explain the anger i have for someone calling you "dumb" for something. I really dont see the help that does at all. If you think someone made a mistake give your point of view and such, but I do not see a reason to be negative and call someone dumb in a health blog. How can you say your not trying to be mean when you come across very negative and are going to most likely upset someone who needs help with an issue???? In my humble opinion you are the dumb one for using such language.

  

[oyasin]

I've only been watching this forum for several months, and I have to agree with a point made by merryB. Quite a few folks come on here with questions about alcohol. Often times it's easy to read between the lines and see that they just want "permission" to drink from someone else. Sometimes it's not. Soapbox? ...no.   Opinion? .. yes. And that's all this forum is. opinions. Her's seems well intentioned at least.

My opinion?.....no, that glass of wine won't hurt you. Would I have done it? maybe. Would I want someone I care about to drink it? NO.

anyway... best of luck with SVR!  that is what we all wish for you.

[Trish77]

One glass of wine at the end of treatment is not going to undo all those months of treatment.  If you do not get SVR it will have nothng to do with the glass of wine at the very END.  So put it out of your mind permanently.  

Congratulations to you for getting all the way through treatment...I'm hoping for best results for you!!!

Take care.

Trish

[Forseegood]

not my business (when did that ever stop me? lol)...but saying someone did a dumb thing (and that's up for debate) is not the same as calling someone dumb...

[merryBe]

thanks for noticing that. we all want mar to make smart choices and show up to announce she is 2 years clear, and then 3 etc. Her choices now could effect that outcome.

I learned with my kids it's important not to call them dumb, but also not to minimize when they start making dumb choices either,. which is why the wrding was what it was.

on the 5 th month of treatment I can not get my brain anywhere close to around going out and celebrating until I am 7 years clear and SRV...so maybe a glass on our 20th anniversary.in ten years, this I'd consider....but not just when cming off tx..or any time soon after..

HR says that is the most vunerable time right?? the first year after tx.
this tx is really a PITA of the 9th order of difficultly...no way would I want to take risks with that success rate, even if I lessened my chances 1 percent, I would deem my behavior as foolish. Folish in that what I am aware of that is harmful gives me more chance at quality life, and to ignore that infomation means I am choosing death over life..

Maybe it's just our society today, many feel they have to imbibe to fit in.....
yet those same folks will often not smole to protect their lungs, or excersise to protect their hearts.....yet the liver gets a daily swig of paint thinner (alcohol's byproducts)(basically a cup of poison to be dealt with) .....and no one thinks twice about it.
it does not compute.

[Trish77]

Well, let's keep it in perspective here.  Mar wasn't asking if it was smart or dumb. I think her remorse and worry speaks for itself and she states she has no intention of drinking until she's SVR.  Her actual question was "Do you think this will impact treatment success? "  

There was no daily swig of anything.  There was one glass with the stated intention not to drink anymore and a question asking what was thought to be the impact of the one glass.  

Mar was already down on herself for what she did and asking what we thought the repercussions were for that one drink.  She deserved an answer on THAT question. Not to kick her even further down.

[pigeonca]

Not that I'm advocating hitting the bottle and becoming rip-roaring, staggering drunk, but for whatever it's worth, once I finished tx, during the 6 months that I waited for a declaration of SVR, I went to my local winery several times for tasting seminars.  Basically, I kept my consumption to around 5 ounces (used the spit bucket a lot) and only did this maybe a total of 5 times.  I also had to take a 6 day course of prednisone for asthma during this time period and furthermore, I only treated for 13 weeks (geno 2).  Nonetheless I got my SVR,   I have a hunch that if you're going to SVR, you're going to SVR - unless you throw caution to the wind.  But a little wine occasionally won't hurt you.  

Now that I'm definitely SVR, I'm back to having a glass of wine with dinner two or three nights a week.  It's good for my heart, says my doctor.  And a few times I even drank a glass and a half (we're talking 5 oz. glasses here).  Don't fret.  You'll be fine.

[Susie2007]

I was under the impression that if a person relapses (and the 1st month is the most common time that happens) it is because the virus was not completely gone, or the person engaged in risky behavior (sharing needles, etc.). So I am not sure where one glass of wine would enter the picture.

Merry, I assume you have a good heart. However, your post to maryellen was a bit extreme. You can't judge another person's experience, miundset, etc., by what happened in your family. That is painting everyone with the same brush. Also there are ways to say something and still get your point across. Rather than calling someone's actions dumb...how about saying "that wasn't the best choice to make". Comes off a bit more compassionately don't you think?

Bill1954, I agree that there is quite a bit of "opinion" on these boards rather than scientific evidence-based medicine.

[mikesimon]

No, I do not believe that one glass of wine will have any affect whatsoever on your treatment response. Try to relax - if relaxation is possible while waiting for your results of treatment - and just forget about it. Good luck, Mike

[nygirl7]

While you are on treatment you don't want to drink because it CAN affect the interferon's efficacy and you don't want to interrupt it not for a second however one glass of wine - I doubt that could do anything to anyone except an ant. And he'd drown.

Stop sweating the small stuff and beating yourself up. You made a mistake (???) owned to it, regret it and aren't going to do it again anyway - treatment is hard enough without making it harder on yourself!

Now, that's an order you newbie from an old time warrior!  Have a bowl of ice cream and let it go!   :)

[reddawg]

You asked the question. When one person doesn't give you the permission your seeking, you get upset with her. I suggest that you don't ask a question you don't want an honest answer to.
You have no assurances that you will be clear. There will always be reasons to have "a" glass of wine, more celebrations.

[mikesimon]

Do you actually read the thread before you post? It appears that perhaps either you don't or, if you do, you don't comprehend very well because Mar wasn't seeking permission - she asked if one glass of wine would impact treatment success.
From her post: "Do you think this will impact treatment success? "
Mike

[jdwithhcv]

Permission?  Nobody asked anybody for permission.
jd

[Bobby1952]

    Either you are going to SVR or not. It is that simple. A glass of wine or 5 glasses of wine on the weekend will not change that...period. Some people will always think otherwise ...but it is not based on scientific fact only opinions.  
    I am not saying you or anyone else should do this but I have a neighbor that was a slow responder gt 1 that reached SVR  6 years ago and she drank beer on the weekends while treating. So who do you believe. I would just be carefull because if the virus came back I guess in the back of your mind you would always wonder.

   One glass don't worry about it. If it bothers you just don't do it again.

Bobby