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Should I end it? If so, how do I do it?

I'm hoping someone can help me...although I know it's only me who can get to the bottom of this. Here it goes. This is very hard for me but I don't want to hurt anymore and I definitely don't want to hurt my girlfriend anymore. We've dated 7 years - 7 beautiful years. The problem is we've grown apart and it seems like we're more like friends than in a real relationship. In fact, sadly I've cheated on her and I hate myself everyday for it...the problem is I can't stop and don't know that I ever will. I thought for sure that I wanted to marry her and I know I'm only lying to myself and her at the same time. The problem is I can't break up with her...it's like I'm so selfish and I just keep her around. I don't know if it's because I'm afraid of change, or afraid to hurt her or that I'll never find love again...I just know that something is not right in our relationship anymore.  I love her to death but I don't think I'm IN LOVE with her anymore. I just don't feel the same way that I used to feel but at the same time I don't want to lose her. I don't know what's wrong with me. She deserves better than me? She deserves someone who should love her the way she deserves to be loved. I want so badly to be that person but I just know that it will never be that way again...and what's frustrating about it is that I don't know why. Everyone tells me that I just need to break up with her but it's so much easier said than done. We've been through a lot over the past couple of weeks and now would just be horrible timing to call it off. I've found a girl that really makes me happy and we just clicked from the beginning and that scares me because I don't know if it's fake or if it's a sign that it's time to end it with my girlfriend. I hate myself so much and I don't think I deserve happiness for what I've done. I feel like a jerk, I never wanted to be "that guy." Part of me wants to be with her so bad. SO BAD! Sadly, part of me doesn't know what I want anymore. She has such a beautiful heart and would never do anything like this to me. This has just hurt way to long and I don't know where else to go and what else to do. I'm hoping someone can please help me. What should I do?

Thanks.
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why would anyone want to string someone along 7 years witout marriage in the future maybe you got to much milk and dont want to buy a cow
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368690 tn?1284357253
Hi there badday1972.  
Have you talked to your girl friend yet?  I am sure she is not stupid and can tell that you are acting differently than at first, when you started your relationship (unless you've been cheating on her this whole time).  :P  
I am so glad she has a good heart and would never do that to you.  Hopefully she will be able to forgive you.  But you will never know unless you talk to her.  It sounds like you just need closure to this 7 year chapter in your life, and the only person you can get that from is your darling gf, along with letting go yourself.  
Let us know when you have reconciled with her and yourself.
cheer up and put yourself in her shoes....if that is indeed a cheering thought.
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The link in my post serves to provide a  means to  "refresh" the posters "memory" that he had, in fact, posted in the past.  The link I provided, which contains the quote posted in C43, shows that "someone" with the screenname "badday1972"  was concerned they had contracted HIV from their "behaviour".  Furthermore, it contains the quote: "Come on now man...not to comforting when you have a girlfriend of 7 years who you would NEVER want to harm!".  This is CLEARLY the SAME person that started this thread and it is obvious he is is denial as evidenced by his quote: "Where the hell are you weirdos getting this s.h.i.t. from is what i wanna know? try typing in badday1972 in the search not just badday ok. You people need to get your facts right before you start accusing me of anything. Wow! i can't believe i'm having to explain myself like this."

The grinding incident ALONG with him recently "finding a girl that makes him happy" and his  sexual encounters, quoted in post C27 (I will repost these below for reference) is, in my opinion, cause for concern he could contract an STD - I should have made it clearer that I was considering ALL of his behaviour and not just this one example.   However, Barnbabe, you wrote: "Let's not feed into disinformation campaigns about STDs. If you are unaware of how HIV is passed, there's plenty of accurate information out there to get you up to speed on it."  At no time did I even mention "HIV" - I said his behaviour could set him up to contract an "STD".  Is genetial herpes an "STD"?  Yes!  Can genetial herpes be caused by genetial grinding?  Absolutely!  Therefore, the information in my post is NOT incorrect.  Badday1972 has also had 2 incidences of unprotected vaginal sex (that we know of!)  which is absolutely putting his girlfriend at risk for contracting a disease that could kill her.  This is highly selfish and it really bugs me when people come to these forums complaining/sulking/stressing etc. etc. that THEY may have contracted XYZ from behaviour ABC and there appears to be no concern for their partner whom they still have unprotected sex with and assumes they are in a monogomous relationship!  Badday1972 needs a wakeup call.

"3/3/06 - Unprotected one night stand - vaginal sex with a girl - NEGATIVE HIV-1 test 3 months later7/16/06 - Received Protected oral sex from stripper
9/23/06 - Unprotected Vaginal sex with friend
10/10/06 - Protected vaginal sex with girl i met a few weeks earlier
- I was also diagnosed with prostatitis in january 07.
1/25/07 - made out with stripper
1/26/07 - made out/grinded nude with girl i met night before - no penetrated sex."


The title of this post is "Should I end it? If so, how do I do it?"
To cut a longer story short.....  Yes.  Tell her about your numerous sexual encounters - that should take care of things pretty quickly.
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Spade, what is it he needs to be "concerned" about?  He wasn't at risk for HIV, at least from the link you gave us. He may have a fever, swollen glands, or whatever, but it's not from an STD. That much is certain. Hell, the guy was BANNED from this site once before because he couldn't work past his anxiety in the face of the non-risk-related behaviors he was engaged in. Only the doctor could have banned him, so clearly Dr. Handsfield felt he was using up air time on the HIV board for no appropriate reason.

I read about some hand jobs, some  grinding stuff, maybe a blow job or two although I don't  recall specifically and didn't read everything he posted, but this guy is not at risk for HIV. That was  the whole point of his being banned--he was wasting everybody's time with his anxiety-driven rants.

Let's not feed into disinformation campaigns about STDs. If you are unaware of how HIV is passed,  there's plenty of accurate information out there to get you up to speed on it. "Grinding genital to genital" is not the way HIV infection occurs. And apparently the guy has had multiple HIV tests coming up negative. What more does he need to realize he doesn't have it? Clearly, what's behind his posts is anxiety.

Now, I for one take every message here at face value - if somebody says they have a 7-year girlfriend and are messing around on them - I'll believe them and give them my opinions about it. I don't have any reason not to believe somebody who posts here. I assume it's true. It doesn't mean we are getting the whole story, but I'm willing to work with what is posted here. With this particular BadDay guy, it appears to be some deep-seated anxiety, maybe some out-of-control sexual behavior, and concern about a primary relationship. The same themes keep coming up no matter which forum he's on.

Bottom line? He's a mess and needs help that he won't be able to get on-line.


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Just to "refresh" your memory since you appeared to have forgotten what you wrote/did in the past:

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/HIVSupport/messages/1828.html


If I were you, I would be VERY concerned about having contracted an STD based on your slew of symptoms and concerning sexual behaviour.  Get help NOW and leave your girlfriend before you end up giving her a disease that could kill her.  People that LOVE others dont intentionally act in ways that could harm them, let alone expose them to a potential death sentence.
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212795 tn?1194952574
I agree with Barn Babe, go talk to someone face to face about what you are going through.  Universities offer confidential, mental health counseling through their counseling centers.  They usually offer free services to the community.  Google your nearest university, and you can easily find this information.  

I think it's interesting that you keep coming back to this thread.  I think you need to take some time and figure things out.  You are a young man, and this doesn't have to be the way you live your life.  You can find happiness.  You don't have to be in relationship, or you can choose to be in one that does not create so much guilt for you.  It is obvious that you feel a lot of discomfort with the lying, so stop doing it.  You'll feel better once you start living your life out in the open.  I wish you the best of luck.  
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Okay, NOW we may be bordering on some kind of sexual addiction here. This guy is in denial big-time about his behavior. I keep seeing lines like "I have a girlfriend who I would never want to harm."  

BadDay, get some professional help. The HIV posts are really disturbing. You are clearly suffering from an anxiety disorder around a fear of contracting HIV. But also bothersome is your behavior with apparently many different sex partners without your "long-time" girlfriend knowing about it. You could possibly have a sex addiction.

There's no shame in getting psychological help for your problems. But you've obviously gone beyond what can be offered on a medical website with a bunch of Internet yahoos offering you "advice." You need professional counseling in the real world. I think the guilt and anxiety are keeping you hooked into this website (and possibly others) and preventing you from getting the help you need. Step away from the computer and call a therapist. I would go with a cognitive-behavioral therapist if I were you. I think they are good with the addiction-related behaviors more so than the psychodynamic (all talk) therapists.

If you can't find one in your local area, perhaps on sliding scale if you have no money, then call the local public health department and they should give you some names.  You are not going to "get better" or get rid of your anxiety and solve the other issues hanging around here. It's just not going to happen.

I'll go out on a limb here and say that it is highly DOUBTFUL that YOU CAN DO THS ALONE. You need help. So go out and  get it.
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174515 tn?1191707269
it's all over the anxiety and hiv forums. i have no interest in arguing with you. funny how you repeatedly lash out with name calling though. i could have sworn you said you knew what you needed to do and were just going to handle it on your own or something to that effect.

i am not going to look through the three pages you posted as BadDay1972 or the other couple as iknowihaveit again to show you what i saw. if i, for some odd reason had a glitch and misspoke, because i pulled a thread from someone else, which i doubt, but computers do ocassionally screw up,  i apologize. but in all honesty, it does not matter. you asked advice on your situation with your girlfriend. you did not give all the facts. you mentioned one girl you clicked with, but the fact is there have been several. you talk about fear of hiv, but are still with your girlfriend, and i hope are using protection, at least for her sake.

we gave you advice. you don't have to like it. but it is what it is.

she deserves to know what you have been doing, you need more therapy than you are getting, and hopefully you listen to their advice better than you do here.

it is evident that you don't find what you want anywhere here and have been banned at least once, possibly twice already, so why not move on?

i'm done with you. call names. scream. kick..whatever suits you.. i'll treat you just like any other child throwing a tantrum and ignore you.

i genuinely do hope all works out well, you don't have a disease and you fix yourself............somehow, i just doubt that'll happen
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Is stripper in Vegas kissed me! Does that sound like vaginal sex with a prostitute idiot!? Again...get your facts right before you post ok

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this is what he posted in repsonse to someones comment in the HIV Forum... he talks about having a girlfriend for 7 years! sounds like your the same guy to me and everyone did type in badday1972 and found out who you really are!!



BadDay1972
4/3/2007
C3  Concerned84 Come on now man...not to comforting when you have a girlfriend of 7 years who you would NEVER want to harm! Just hope you don't have it? I hope I don't have a lot of s.h.i.t. but with my prior symptoms this seems a little more "real" if you know what I mean. It seems like I had the most intense symptoms out of everyone that's been on this forum lately yet I'm "crazy" of my so called "no risk" situation even though HIV through deep kissing has occurred...Seems a little harsh to me.
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Brothel? what the hell is a brothel? I don't even know what that is. go ahead and post that thread with the nickname...i wouldn't even know where the hell to pick up a prostitute. Where the hell are you weirdos getting this s.h.i.t. from is what i wanna know? try typing in badday1972 in the search not just badday ok. You people need to get your facts right before you start accusing me of anything. Wow! i can't believe i'm having to explain myself like this.

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174515 tn?1191707269
thats funny, you posted elsewhere about wearing two condoms while sleeping with someone in a brothel. that would be a prostitute dear.

and to the girls

about the gay comment, i know you girls are right and i stand corrected there. i just think the guy in her life gave her the final little push she needed to explore her sexuality more. maybe eventually it would have happened , maybe not. it doesn't matter to me. she's been a great friend to me and a wonderful pregnancy resource. it's nice to see a girl rise from the ashes and find her happiness.
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maybe i shouldnt have posted your previous posts from other forums, but with your tone and responses back to us, i had to pull the plug. call it pregnant hormones, being a B- , whatever you want to label it. i think for an honest response you need the entire story.  
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Let's get one thing straight...I have NEVER EVER slept with a prostitute or stripper! I know my problems...probably should have never come back here...so I guess i'll just have to take care of them
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Does it make you a bigger, better man to call women egotistical b*****?  I am amused by your anger bad day.  If you looked closer, you would see that people took your problem seriously and tried to give you advice.

Your problem isn't us, and you couldn't have demostrated your passive aggressive tendancies better than you have in this thread.  Bravo big man.

I tend to think a person is feeble minded and weak when they resort to name calling.  You can keep your negative karma, really, no fight.  You obviously don't want help, buddy, so best of luck.

By the way, Chellybeans, I don't believe a bad situation makes a person gay.  That's not a desire that comes out of a deep hurt.  Something more was happening with your friend, but I am glad to hear she is happy.

PS to everyone: I also love the "minds" on this forum!  I came here for advice last week, and found some really neat personalities hanging around this forum.  You guys are awesome:)  I really enjoy reading your posts!    

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badday...

glad to see you FINALLY made it over the anxiety of having HIV.  

for those of you who aren't aware, badday posted SEVERAL threads on the HIV support forum for fear he contracted HIV from a virtually no-risk situation and no matter what anyone said, he didn't find comfort in the comments and kept posting the same thing over and over again.  Dr. HHH actually had him banned for awhile when he was under a different screen name.

So..now on to other worries badday?  I agree with several posters here...please seek therapy for your anxiety.
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164559 tn?1233708018
I agree with my egotistical feminist b***** sisters.  The fact that you would refer to women who were responding to you in such in such a manner shows a deep lack of respect for women.

I dated someone just like you.  I am now very happily married, he has lived with 8 women since me and has been through one divorce.  He is a sad lonely man in his 40's.  That is what happens to cheats, eventually they run out of gullible women.  I have no bitterness towards him, in fact I feel sorry for him as he has yet to learn from his mistakes.  I doubt he ever will.

You need to come clean with your girlfriend.  If you want out, tell her so.  If you want this other girl, tell her so.  If your gf is willing to try and work it out, you need to seek couples counselling.

Do I think you are a hopeless case?  Certainly not, I know people can change if they are motivated to do so.  However, if you ever want a solid, long term relationship honesty is your number one goal.

Good luck.
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Honey, I've made plenty of mistakes in my life  - blunders in my career, issues with my family, and messed up relationships. Sometimes it was my sh*t that caused the relationship to go south, sometimes it was the guy's sh*t, sometimes it was two people who were inappropriate for one another coming together and messing everything up just by BEING together.

All I can tell you is that I'm about 20 years older than you and have the experience to show for it. I've been in therapy off and on for years and still have sh*t I haven't worked out. (As people on this forum can probably tell you.)

I think you've got issues pointing to fear of intimacy. And you need to figure out why you treat people you supposedly love with so much contempt and disrespect. That comes from being treated badly yourself in the past, or watching other male "role models" in your childhood and your past mistreating women.  

As pertykitty said, this isn't "about" your new girlfriend. Bringing her into this fray by pointing out her "shortcoming" (supposedly knowing about the first woman) shows how clueless and lost you are about your own behavior. That's called doing "mop-up" and damage control, and it's a weak position to be coming from. It indicates how you are trying to let yourself off the hook or attempt to  prove somehow that you are not really "such a bad guy," because this other woman somehow isn't blameless in this drama.  

That tactic is beneath anybody who has an emotional maturity level above that of a tapeworm. That's a ploy you see on a grade school playground, not in a supposedly intelligent adult male out having supposedly mature relationships with women.  It's another way of deflecting responsibility away from yourself.

My advice is to leave both women and start working on yourself. You have a long way to go, and the sooner you get started, the better. Do you really want to be heading towards your 30s continuing with behaviors like this?
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yes i have done some pretty bad things in my past! i didnt go on a public forum and ask what i should do. with this kind of anger im surprised you have any females that want to be with you. this isnt about the "other" girl. this is about you, and your girlfriend. what did you want to hear really? i believe your question has been answered but you dont like the answer i guess. do this, really its the only right thing. tell your girlfriend about your cheating. tell her like you told us, you arent in love with her. she will take care of the rest im sure. making it easy for you to get out of the relationship. im guessing that is what you want? for her to leave you then you can be the "dumped" one? rather than get so mad here, put your energy into a positive and productive manner.
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yeah me too. keep on criticizing people...that'll get you far. typical. just typical.
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I rest my case.
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Listen, you egotistical feminist *****...don't you dare sit there and judge me! I'm sure you've done plenty of bad things in your life that I could turn around and throw in your face. How bout the fact that the other girl I'm seeing knows about my girlfriend. Does that make me the only JERK in this situation?! Does she get off scott free?! I admitted to what I've done to you guys and I was here to get support on how to confront my girlfriend...not to hear what I already know! You people are all hypocrites and venting at people like me is the only thing that makes you feel better. I never should have come here. If anybody has any REAL advice for me or has any suggestions on the type of counseling that I or she and I should get I would greatly appreciate it. As for you prettykitty and for all the others who just want to criticize me all day...bite me!!!
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Barn Babe, what else is there to say? You said it all, and hit the nail right on the head!
I suppose this is one of those few times we happen to wholeheartedly agree on something, huh? :-)

To the OP: If you really don't want to end the 7-year relationship (which you should), then tell the poor girl the truth. If SHE wants to continue the relationship with you, then you both need to see a relationship councelor, and YOU need to see a personal councelor as well. You contradict yourself constantly about everything and even admitted many times, you're selfish.
Quit the poor, pitiful, please-help-me-figure-myself-out-what-should-I-do act and be a man and take some HONEST action!
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174515 tn?1191707269
sorry, not picking an arguement, so please don't take my comment that way.

this guy just sucks!
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