High TSH and High Anti-TSH?

[DOCHDOCH]

I have normal T4 and normal T3.
And I have High TSH and high Anti-TSH

I don't understand. If I have alot of TSH anitbodies wouldn't I then have low TSH since the anitbodies would be killing the TSH? Have anyone else experienced this paradox?

Please advise.

Thanks a ton.

Dianne

[DOCHDOCH]

Hi there, thanks for your response. You are funny. I googled Anitthyroitropin too. Apparently it is involved in graves disease - it imitates TSH and fools the TSH receptors by overstimulating them. And it is involved in Hashimoto's too - it blocks the TSH receptors so they can't get stimulated.
So complicated all this eh?

Something else I found out, don't know if it will help anyone. I have a corn allergy and so my thyroid medication gets recompounded without the cornstarch that is normally in it. Helped a lot. But I recently found that Microcrystalline Cellulose is a filler they are still using which is made from corn or soy, So I just had it recompounded again without that stuff too. Seems to be helping me. Day three and I am feeling better.

Maybe one of you have a corn allergy too and this will help.

Cheers

[AR-10]

I googled antithyrotropin and came up with a lot of technical stuff I can't digest today. A lot of it refers to Grave's Disease, so that confuses me.

I've never heard of anti-T3, either, so I guess there is a good reason I'm not a doctor! LOL!

Your TSH is a lttle high. Your T3 is a little low.

That indicates to me that either your med dosage has not yet brought you into balance, because enough time has not elapsed, or the med level needs to be bumped up just a little. To increase the dosage A LITTLE, you may have to resort to cutting pills in half or taking a pill of one dosage 5-6 days a week and a higher strenght pill 1-2 days a week.

Keep in mind I am at least as sick and uninformed as you are, and this is just a lot of blabbering. Hopefully it will give you some questions to ask your doctor and get the answers you seek.

Best wishes.

[DOCHDOCH]

Sorry, here are my levels. I have Hashimotos'
My free T4 is 12 (range is 10 - 20)
My free T3 is 1.6 (range is 2.6 - 5.7)
So both are normal.
Then my TSH is 5.77 (range .35 - 5.0)
And Anti-thyrotropan is 264 ( should be below 35)
And Anit - T3 is 53 (should be below 40)
So TSH and thyroid antibodies are high. I thought that the Anit-Thyrotropin is the one that is to do with TSH. So I just thought that if I have high anti-tsh and high tsh level seems paradoxical.

Dianne  

[AR-10]

You have high antibodies, but there are two different types. You don't say which you have, or how high your TSH is.

Let us assume you are talking about Hashimoto's thyroiditis and you have high TPO antibodies.

The antibodies are not attacking your TSH. The antibodies are attacking your thyroid gland. In theory, a High TSH and a high TPO would indicate that your thyroid is damaged, and your T3/T4 should be low.

You also don't list where in the "normal range" your T3/T4 fall, so you could be extremely low normal and those test results would make sense, If your TSH is only moderately high.

The fact is, unless you list all three test results with the normal range spread that the lab which evaluated the blood sample uses to measure the various levels, we can't tell you much.

This much is sure. Nothing is attacking your TSH. If you have antibodies, you either have Graves diseases or a form of Hashimoto's, and the antibodies are attacking the gland.

TSH is Thyroid Stimulating Hormone, which is produced by your pituitary gland to tell the thyroid how much T4 to produce. If your thyroid is pooching out, your TSH goes up.

There are ways your TSH can be high while your T3/T4 are normal, but that is several paragraphs and I have already guessed enough on the wee bit of information you have posted.

Post more info as you get it.
Hope this helped.

[GravesLady]

What is your TSH level and your antibody level, and, which antibodies -  stating"high" does not tell anything.  No to your antibody theory.